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how to get rid of the annoying roar sound at high altitude?

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For what it's worth, the wind noise is very prominent on the 737 because of the way the nose is designed.

This guy flies for AAL, and mentions it in this article (and several times in his other articles, mostly in passing): http://www.gadling.com/2011/09/23/cockpit-chronicles-know-your-boeings/

Kyle Rodgers

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For what it's worth, the wind noise is very prominent on the 737 because of the way the nose is designed.

This guy flies for AAL, and mentions it in this article (and several times in his other articles, mostly in passing): http://www.gadling.c...w-your-boeings/

thanks for that kyle, BTW i am not talking about the wind noise, only about the engine noise at high altitude.

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You're welcome. Just making sure. Some people think so many things are "unrealistic" yet they've never been up front in the air, so they're basing it only on what they think is realistic, not facts.

Kyle Rodgers

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You're welcome. Just making sure. Some people think so many things are "unrealistic" yet they've never been up front in the air, so they're basing it only on what they think is realistic, not facts.

yes you're right Kyle, till i was in the cockpit myself i thought that too. thanks for the comment cheerio.

Daniel choen

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I know the wind noise is generally pretty strong when you start goosing up

into the higher IAS's.. That part seems pretty accurate to me. When you

get up around 290-300+ knots, you hear a pretty good amount of wind noise.

At high altitudes where you are mach speeds, the IAS speeds naturally will

drop down a good bit, and the wind noise will lower.

But when you descend to the point where you merge with the IAS, that noise

will gradually build up, and should stay fairly loud until you get down to 10k and

reduce to 250 knots.

You'll hear the same increase when climbing out above 10k and you goose on up

to 280-300 knots or whatever..So myself, I wouldn't want to mess with the wind

sounds too much. They seem about right to me.

Mark Keith

You're welcome. Just making sure. Some people think so many things are "unrealistic" yet they've never been up front in the air, so they're basing it only on what they think is realistic, not facts.

 

Kyle, I know the wind sound in the cockpit of a 737 is loud, I have been in one, but in real noisy Planes pilots have head gear like the one you have on your profile picture that block part of the noise and kept them communicated with ATC and with each other. In the NGX I can't barely hear my ATC, I actually can't hear nothing except the wind after I pass 250 knots and that is why I took the wind noises out and replace them with Accu-Feel. So technically it is realistic and is not at the same time since you should be able to communicate or at least hear ATC on any plane and unfortunately FSX or mu sound card doesn't have an option to separate noises as of to hear environment through speaker and conversations in a head gear, at leas as far as I know :)

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but in real noisy Planes pilots have head gear like the one you have on your profile picture that block part of the noise and kept them communicated with ATC and with each other.

 

People wear DCs in Cessnas, but not as much in 737s. In 737s you're more apt to see StarSets and the like (in-ear, not over the ear, or if over-ear, single ear sets), so there's very little noise cancelling. Some do wear them, but it's not as much as you think.

 

In the NGX I can't barely hear my ATC, I actually can't hear nothing except the wind after I pass 250 knots and that is why I took the wind noises out and replace them with Accu-Feel. So technically it is realistic and is not at the same time since you should be able to communicate or at least hear ATC on any plane and unfortunately FSX or mu sound card doesn't have an option to separate noises as of to hear environment through speaker and conversations in a head gear, at leas as far as I know :)

 

Again, it's not more realistic. In the real plane, you can hear ATC more clearly because it's going to a headset directly in your ear, not that it's any quieter. If you're using ATC, you should have a headset. Even the default FSX settings allow you to send voice to the headset and aircraft sounds to the speakers. Otherwise, yes, you're going to have issues.

Kyle Rodgers

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Seriously guys, please do not question the accuracy of the wind sounds, the pack/recirc fans etc - we spent an inordinate amount of time getting the sound right. It's as close to the real thing as it can be in FSX. We were there, we heard it, and what you hear are recordings of the real thing. A dozen real life NG drivers signed off on it too.

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This is interesting as I have also adjusted the FSX volumes to try and deaden the ambient engine and environment sounds a little, so that the ATC comes across more clearly. It's not something I've spent much time on but I now have a solution of sorts - a new case (see my sig) with so many fans that it's actually quite hard to distinguish between the different sounds. Yep, it's noisy!

 

....but cool :good: ...at last!

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People wear DCs in Cessnas, but not as much in 737s. In 737s you're more apt to see StarSets and the like (in-ear, not over the ear, or if over-ear, single ear sets), so there's very little noise cancelling. Some do wear them, but it's not as much as you think.

 

 

 

Again, it's not more realistic. In the real plane, you can hear ATC more clearly because it's going to a headset directly in your ear, not that it's any quieter. If you're using ATC, you should have a headset. Even the default FSX settings allow you to send voice to the headset and aircraft sounds to the speakers. Otherwise, yes, you're going to have issues.

Hey Kyle, do you have an idea where i can get information about how to set the ATC sound to the headset and the aircraft sound to the speakers, that could be very interesting, thanks again for your help.

Daniel choen

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I just set this up yesterday. For me it only worked correctly with 2 sound cards. I have an onboard soundcard on my motherboard, and a Soundblaster pci-express sound card. I configured both to work in windows, one the default sound device and the other the default communications device. Then in FSX menu I selected my soundblaster as the default sounds and for voice I selected the motherboard soundcard. Works great!

 

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Hey Kyle, do you have an idea where i can get information about how to set the ATC sound to the headset and the aircraft sound to the speakers, that could be very interesting, thanks again for your help.

 

It can be done in the FSX settings in the Audio section, I believe.

 

I just set this up yesterday. For me it only worked correctly with 2 sound cards. I have an onboard soundcard on my motherboard, and a Soundblaster pci-express sound card. I configured both to work in windows, one the default sound device and the other the default communications device. Then in FSX menu I selected my soundblaster as the default sounds and for voice I selected the motherboard soundcard. Works great!

 

For the record (for those worried they'll need two soundcards), a USB headset will show up as another soundcard, so you could just use a USB headset and get around buying a second soundcard, since it's a lot cheaper.

Kyle Rodgers

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It can be done in the FSX settings in the Audio section, I believe.

 

 

 

For the record (for those worried they'll need two soundcards), a USB headset will show up as another soundcard, so you could just use a USB headset and get around buying a second soundcard, since it's a lot cheaper.

thanks mate.

Daniel choen

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People wear DCs in Cessnas, but not as much in 737s. In 737s you're more apt to see StarSets and the like (in-ear, not over the ear, or if over-ear, single ear sets), so there's very little noise cancelling. Some do wear them, but it's not as much as you think.

I'd say 80% wear Bose or Senheiser ANC at my airline. The numbers have gone up quite a bit in the past few years.

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