Realistically I care more about seeing the proper airplanes when on vatsim (and Pilot edge - i can edit them)...right now I get a bunch of triangles and vip models using Squawkbox 4. I don't want WOAI because some aren't native models..

 

I've read a little bit and my debate is between F1's UT2 and MyTraffic x Pro 5.4A

 

I want to know which ai models are friendlier on performance, and do both programs make the planes park at proper real world terminals/gates?

 

GA airplanes would be nice as I believe MTX has them but UT2 doesn't?

 

I don't like seeing default planes, will these packages replace the default AI with different models OR will I still have defaullt AI intermixed with the payware packs?

 

Finally how easy is the setup/config and how user friendly is the control panel for each?

 

Thanks....

I own both but only have My Traffic X 54a installed. I think it's a much better program than the rest. Been a long time since I ran UT2 so won't comment on it. UTX is controlled by the FSX AI slider. No other controls. It renames your default AI file but you can bring back the default if you want by renaming that file back to the original. Then you'll have MTX traffic plus default (doubt that would be very realistic). MTX has military AI and you can go to their website and click on the config tools and set it up for HD if you have a powerful system or just normal textures if your system is not so powerful. The developer is constantly updating the program and you can get updates as they occur until a completely new version is released. I'm really surprised Ryan you have not installed an AI program yet. Hope this helps.

 

Best regards,

Jim

I avoided AI because of the fps hit... then I really started flying on vatsim and recently pilot edge. I gave up on ai traffic... last year I got a new PC and since I've been into online flying so much I just didn't miss AI.... recently I flew in an event with lots of airplanes and most were triangles or vip models so I started thinking about it. This time my system could handle it as well.

UT2 and MTX5.4 are both great. Both have flaws.

 

UT2 is more realistic and consistently accurate at each airport because they use real schedules. I also find it better performance wise but that's mostly because at 100% it's still producing less AI then MTX5.4 does at 100% (or even 75%). It's lacking outside of GA and Airlines though and because of how it injects, you don't always have flights showing up that are parked for several hours. This can lead to sparse airports sometimes.

 

When I fly into KMSY in the afternoons (New Orleans) there's rarely more then 5 flights at the gate. While not the biggest airport, that's hardly realistic for KMSY at peak hours.

 

MTX5.4 has military and cargo, something UT2 doesn't have (they have a few cargo airlines but not many). They don't fly real schedules though so you can get oddities (certain airlines that shouldn't be there, although at least in the US that's rare). It's also hard for me to find a balance of realistic traffic levels across the board.

 

Example: I lower it enough to a realistic level of traffic at KABQ. When I get to KELP there's one flight there as a result of the slider being universal.

 

It depends on what is important to you.

 

Also, if you buy UT2, get the newest schedule. It's a must. Somewhere down the line they fixed it so flights show up that have ended the day at a gate so you have traffic parked at nights. Before they started releasing updated schedules you'd fly into even huge airports past 9-10PM and there'd be hardly any traffic. That's fixed. Even going into KJAN (Jackson, MS) there are 5-6 flights at the stands overnight and that's a pretty small international airport.

What's most important to me is fps friendly models and realistic traffic representation at airports.

 

General Aviation models would be a plus.

What's most important to me is fps friendly models and realistic traffic representation at airports.

 

General Aviation models would be a plus.

 

Well both have great GA so that won't be an issue.

 

I personally prefer UT2. Easier to get realistic levels of traffic at most all airports because at 100% you know it's flying real flights at real levels of density.

 

I liked the idea of military traffic in MTX but I found I rarely saw them so it became a moot feature mostly. Even with GA, because I mostly fly airliners, I rarely see them. I've started turning the slider down to 50% for GA as a result.

 

AI has always been a must for me. Couldn't imagine flying without it.

What's most important to me is fps friendly models and realistic traffic representation at airports.

 

General Aviation models would be a plus.

 

My Traffic X has the most airlines represented, offers great GA traffic, and even represents very accurate military traffic to boot. The plus: Great FPS! The con: Uglier user interface

My Traffic X has the most airlines represented, offers great GA traffic, and even represents very accurate military traffic to boot. The plus: Great FPS! The con: Uglier user interface

 

That'd be another con against UT2 I didn't think of (despite prefering it).

 

It does lack some airlines compared to MTX. In most cased they are obscure foreign carriers so it may or may not matter. Depends on where you fly. Everything in the US/Europe (Ryanair is back in the latest schedule as well) is pretty much covered.

Ryan,

 

I believe there is an option with MTX to user lower poly planes. I am not at my computer but I think the option is still there with the pro version as it was with earlier versions.

 

Bob

My Traffic X has the most airlines represented, offers great GA traffic, and even represents very accurate military traffic to boot. The plus: Great FPS! The con: Uglier user interface

 

Are they at the correct gates/terminal - I'm especially concerned with USA flying.

 

Also can I place military planes where I want? For instance here in Duluth they F16's fly all the time... Could I make schedules for them?

I have been using UT2 for years, but recently tried out MTX Pro 5.4a. I have run into a bunch of glitches with the MTX interface, which has caused me to have to reinstall the program 3 times in the past 2-weeks. I am also completely unable to use the historic schedules without FSX crashing every time. I am OK as long as i stick with the MTX 2012 schedule and don't change anything. No one else seems to have these problems in the MT forum though, and the MT author is quick to respond to problems.

 

I do find that the MTX AC while not quite as nice looking as UT2, are easier on frame rates than UT2, and you have the option of using even simpler models in MTX Pro. The airports are a lot fuller with MTX than UT2. Also, since UT2 traffic runs through simconnect, whenever you access an FSX menu, all traffic resets, which is why I am trying MTX. After using UT2 with its real life schedules I just can't get used to seeing an American Airlines, or Delta aircraft in a small Alaska airport using MTX. UT2 does have lots of GA, but no military or cargo. I haven't completely made up my mind yet but it looks like i will probably go back to UT2 and use WOAI cargo schedules again.

Realistically I care more about seeing the proper airplanes when on vatsim (and Pilot edge - i can edit them)...right now I get a bunch of triangles and vip models using Squawkbox 4. I don't want WOAI because some aren't native models..

 

I've read a little bit and my debate is between F1's UT2 and MyTraffic x Pro 5.4A

 

I want to know which ai models are friendlier on performance, and do both programs make the planes park at proper real world terminals/gates?

I would say that MTX is more frame rate friendly, but models not quite as nice. The AC park at the correct gates in UT2, not sure about MTX, but the airport has to be designed with AC codes for either to work.

 

GA airplanes would be nice as I believe MTX has them but UT2 doesn't?

They both have GA, but UT2 has no cargo or military.

 

I don't like seeing default planes, will these packages replace the default AI with different models OR will I still have defaullt AI intermixed with the payware packs?

Both programs turn off default AI.

 

 

Finally how easy is the setup/config and how user friendly is the control panel for each?

I think that the UT2 interface is much more user friendly.

 

Something folks have failed to mention in the difference between UT2 and MTX is how the traffic is injected and what that means to the user (I own both).

 

MTX uses the tried and true .bgl format for traffic, and thus is controlled by FSX and is modifiable by the traffic slider. When you enter a menu and leave a menu, the traffic is still there.

 

UT2 injects the traffic without using a .bgl. Forgive me, at the moment I cannot remember how. However, if you enter any menu that is outside the FSX "world" like any FSX options, flight planner, save/load interface, or even FSUIPC, the traffic has to reinject itself. This was very annoying to me if I was taxing to the runway threshold behind a line of traffic, only to have it disappear because I had to change an option or reassign a button in FSUIPC.

 

I currently use MTX exclusively, but do miss the higher fidelity models of UT2.

Personally, I don't see much point in purchasing AI. WOAI, despite using FS2004 models, looks great, and runs just fine. They cover around 500 airlines, plus a hundred or so defunct airlines, some GA, and, a few military packages. There's no complex interface or anything, just a simple installer. That's it. For advanced users, there is a full UI, though I have barely found much use for it. My only complaint is no FedEx, though I've assembled a great package, using the AIG plans, and the WOAI planes, with repaints. On the major carriers they have up-to-date schedules, with a few exceptions, such as the Lufthansa A380's, which are not yet present, nor with China Southern, or Korean. This of course, is just my two cents, and if you must buy AI, be my guest.

I've read a little bit and my debate is between F1's UT2 and MyTraffic x Pro 5.4A

 

I'd go with my traffic x pro 5.4a with my traffic live (http://secure.simmarket.com/my-traffic-live.phtml)