June 12, 201213 yr With my Traffic X 5.4a do you set the default fsx traffic to 0? http://fs2crew.com/banners/Banner_FS2Crew_MJC_Supporter.png Wayne HART
June 12, 201213 yr I have both, but have installed mtx because there are one thing that ut2 will never have: the support and the attention that Mr. Burkhard put in his product. Tapatalk2, Samsung Galaxy Note. 7800X3D / 7900XTX / ROG STRIX B650-A / Corsair Vengeance 32GB 6000mhz, etc etc.
June 12, 201213 yr Commercial Member If you want real schedules and exactly right airlines at right airports buy Ultimate Traffic 2 as all its schedules are real ones I think. Mytraffic has mostly right airlines at right airports, however you will also spot some that do not belong there at all, for example I did spot KLM 747 at airport in Pyongyang, North Korea, so also there is often something that doesn't belong there. On the other hand as My Traffic uses more generic flight plans with many airlines it allows Mytraffic to have also airlines with no proper route data available, such as many smaller cargo and charter airlines, so you will get more different airlines with Mytraffic although not exactly real routes. But mostly those routes and airlines at airports are still believable. I chose Mytraffic as I simply want as much traffic as possible and don't care too much if some routes are not operated IRL. I always enjoy seeing all kinds of smaller and less known airlines with often interesting fleet.
June 12, 201213 yr Author If I go with MTX, how easy is it to change flights into an airport? Can I specify number and type of GA aircraft at a particular airport? Personally, I don't see much point in purchasing AI. WOAI, despite using FS2004 models, looks great, and runs just fine. I used WOAI in the past but you have to convert all of them to SP2 format otherwise you'll get invisible plane and parts, and sometimes no shadows... When I used them installation was not easy and took a while... I never did convert them... I'd rather pay for simplicity. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
June 12, 201213 yr Author I went ahead and purchased MTX... it seems to be the more popular version.... Hopefully it does what I want hehe. EDIT: Installed etc... huge fps hit vs no AI... Even at MSP (with jim vile adex) with 60% airliners and 40% GA my fps were cut in half (probably more). I lock @ 30 with default c172 and now they are at 15... ick! I was hoping to maintain 25.... Also something annoying that ATC won't say FLAGSHIP, a common callsign for pinnacle CRJ's around my neck of the woods. You'd think a payware package would have that added.. And I've got AI departing the opposite ends of the runway... Am I expecting too much? Also, there's hardly any planes on the other side of the terminal... | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
June 12, 201213 yr I use UT2...the only thing that bugs me is the lose of traffic when you need to go into a menu. The thing I love about it is the AI flys actually flight plans instead of point to point routes...its common to get AI passing you in the opposite direction, or to have a companion AI flying the same airway as you at a different altitude. Any AI seems to have a hit on performance. I get around 20-25fps in the NYC area with no addons (just AFCADs), and UT2 at 100%..I'm on an i7-2600k @ 3.4GHz.
June 12, 201213 yr Well, I personally don't find MTX better on frames as several said in this thread so that doesn't surprise me. I found overall performance at comparable levels to be 3-5 FPS less with MTX. You should of gotten UT2 first because you can return it within 30 days, no questions asked with Flight1's policy. That way if you didn't like it then you could go to MTX and get your money back on UT2. I'd suggest turning shadows off. You won't miss them as much as you think and it'll help because it's having to draw shadows for all those planes. Also, make sure you don't have it setup so jetways connect to AI aircraft (this can be adjusted in the configuration program). That's a huge FPS killer. You should be getting better frames with that system. Are you using BP=0 tweak? In comparable situations such as your screenshot I'm getting 25-30 FPS with a nearly identical system (actually my ATI 6950 is not as good of a card as your 570).
June 12, 201213 yr I went ahead and purchased MTX... it seems to be the more popular version.... Hopefully it does what I want hehe. EDIT: Installed etc... huge fps hit vs no AI... Even at MSP (with jim vile adex) with 60% airliners and 40% GA my fps were cut in half (probably more). I lock @ 30 with default c172 and now they are at 15... ick! I was hoping to maintain 25.... Also something annoying that ATC won't say FLAGSHIP, a common callsign for pinnacle CRJ's around my neck of the woods. You'd think a payware package would have that added.. And I've got AI departing the opposite ends of the runway... Am I expecting too much? Also, there's hardly any planes on the other side of the terminal... Take a look at the program "communicator". In there, there's the "Aircraft Config Editor". The option that especially saves my frame rates is "Enable Exits for Ground Animation". Make sure that option is UNCHECKED. As for procedures, the AI is terrible. I use the program "AI Smooth" to keep the airports from being too much of a cluster ****. Lastly, I use custom AFCADs for airports I'm familiar with. This way I have correct parking, taxiing, etc. I know you've got some experience with this. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
June 13, 201213 yr Author Well, I personally don't find MTX better on frames as several said in this thread so that doesn't surprise me. I found overall performance at comparable levels to be 3-5 FPS less with MTX. You should of gotten UT2 first because you can return it within 30 days, no questions asked with Flight1's policy. That way if you didn't like it then you could go to MTX and get your money back on UT2. That was a good idea hehe... rats! Live and learn I guess... Take a look at the program "communicator". In there, there's the "Aircraft Config Editor". The option that especially saves my frame rates is "Enable Exits for Ground Animation". Make sure that option is UNCHECKED. It helped a little... maybe a 2-3 fps gain... so I avg 18 ish in the same situation. I'm using the BP=0 /Affin mask 14+ with locked in-game fps of 30. It has given me the least stutters with all settings in the past. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
June 13, 201213 yr Installed etc... huge fps hit vs no AI... Even at MSP (with jim vile adex) with 60% airliners and 40% GA my fps were cut in half (probably more). I lock @ 30 with default c172 and now they are at 15... ick! I was hoping to maintain 25.... Ouch...that's a pretty heavy framerate hit. Someday I'd like to get a traffic program but, as tired as I am of "World Travel" and "Orbix" (or whatever it is) I'd rather have the smooth framerates. Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
June 13, 201213 yr Author Ouch...that's a pretty heavy framerate hit. Someday I'd like to get a traffic program but, as tired as I am of "World Travel" and "Orbix" (or whatever it is) I'd rather have the smooth framerates. Well something's up because others aren't having the same issues. About disabling the exits in their config program... I uncheck it, then select for all MyTraffic, but when I exit then reenter the program the box is checked again. Perhaps it's not working? In the .cfg here's what I'm seeing... shouldn't the exits = 2 be commented out? [exits] number_of_exits = 2 //exit.0 = 0.4, 25.8, -8.5, 7.8, 0 //exit.1 = 0.4, -26.50, 5.85, 3.0, 1 | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
June 13, 201213 yr Ryan - MTX injects a hugh number of AI aircraft at a given FSX traffic slider than usual. Setting commercial at 60% is too high....try a setting closer to 20% (yes, 20%). You'll still see lots of planes in the air and at the airport. Get used to low slider settings injecting more traffic than you're used to...and I've tried WOAI, TrafficX and MTX and now use only MTX. A plus is more realistic strobes on the AI. Wayne KlocknerUnited Virtual
June 13, 201213 yr Author Ryan - MTX injects a hugh number of AI aircraft at a given FSX traffic slider than usual. Setting commercial at 60% is too high....try a setting closer to 20% (yes, 20%). You'll still see lots of planes in the air and at the airport. Get used to low slider settings injecting more traffic than you're used to...and I've tried WOAI, TrafficX and MTX and now use only MTX. A plus is more realistic strobes on the AI. Oh? So MTX injects much more traffic than even UT2? I'll try 20% ai and 20% ga.... So yeah obviously fps are better... but really 20% is far too low for big airports (for realism). Here's FSDT's KDFW with first 20% airliners then 60%... KDFW (FSDreamTeam addon) I agree that 100% would be too busy... and obviously during rush times some airports are fairly empty but 60% is a reasonable level and still a massive fps hit on my end... I wonder if the nvidia inspector settings are the culprit... I've got 8xS + 2xSGSS AA and 16x AF set... Ground shadows are off as well as airplane exits apparently disabled. EDIT: Anyway I'm just gonna live with the fps hit @ 60%... it looks cool, and strangely enough the C172 or the NGX still yields the same fps lol | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
June 13, 201213 yr One of the neat things about UT2 is you can set a target frame rate. I have mine set to 15FPS. It will reduce AI to maintain the frame rate you set. No more playing with the percentages. MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; Windows 11 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus TUF RTX3080TI; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, LG 48" C1 Series OLED, Honeycomb Yoke & TQ, CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad
June 13, 201213 yr While we're on the topic, I use %40 percent. Buried in the forums the creator has suggested "35%". CLT, EWR, JFK, and all of my add-on sceneries look very believable. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
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