Yep. And I get 25 with a single screen. That is quite a difference.

The best you will get with cloud and everything maxed, PMDG737, UK2000 Gatwick is 11-15. I dont think any of the current hardware will make a difference.

 

Interesting. I saw a post somewhere where someone said they lost about 1/3 to 1/4 by running three screens as opposed to 1 screen. One post isn't much evidence.

 

I have neither Gatwick nor the PMDG 737NGX or I'd be tempted to run the test to see what tradeoffs I'd have to make to get back to 30 or even if it's possible. For me, if I don't get 25 I won't fly it. I am no expert, I go on tuning tirades from time to time to to get the smoothness I want. Orbx PNW J41 was a huge testing area for me...I tuned takeoffs from Seattle probably 100 times or more until I got it right...changing driver settings...tweaking the config, changing water settings, tweaking the dynamic scenery...tried overclocking and turned it off...and then, finally, turned my external limiter back on and tweaked it (I know...I know). Sounds like Gatwick/737NGX would need the same kind of loving attention.

The best you will get with cloud and everything maxed, PMDG737, UK2000 Gatwick is 11-15. I dont think any of the current hardware will make a difference.

 

@Howard just a gentle reminder that all users of AVSIM forums are now required to put there PC specs in the new facility provided for just that, specs are no longer allowed in signatures. Details of the new rules can be found at the link below.

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/378695-new-signature-rules-and-other-changes/

When I went from 1 24" in my old Core 2 Duo (Win XP) to 2 X 24" I did not see FPS drop that much.

 

But under win 7, when I went from 1 to three 24", my 30FPS locked dropped to 15 on the average. I am hoping its a driver issue to some extent.

 

Yes, Gatwick and Heathrow and London would drop the FPS drastically I am sure. I am here in Chicago and travelling to Dallas tonite.. I'll report back what I actually get

 

Manny

But you are running 5.2 GHz!!! -__-

Most of the people here are running at 4.5 - 4.8 GHz. If I overclock mine to 5.2 GHz I will probably go from 30 to 35 FPS at really intense areas.

 

Btw, are you running Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge?

May I ask at what traffic settings? I run mine (SB2700K) @ 4.8 GHz @ 2560x1600 and at Aerosoft EDDF and Traffics set to High, I only get 20s FPS in fair weather!!! Taking off with the PMDG MD-11 has the annoying slight pause just before rotate, which I don't have if the framerate is at 30s, but the traffics setting needs to be at medium low. FSX is a "pig"!

May I ask at what traffic settings? I run mine (SB2700K) @ 4.8 GHz @ 2560x1600 and at Aerosoft EDDF and Traffics set to High, I only get 20s FPS in fair weather!!! Taking off with the PMDG MD-11 has the annoying slight pause just before rotate, which I don't have if the framerate is at 30s, but the traffics setting needs to be at medium low. FSX is a "pig"!

 

I'm running no AI traffic. I am flying online on IVAO so that's the only traffic I see. At Aerosoft EHAM I am getting 35 FPS on the runways, and 25-30 FPS near the gates. But when I connect to IVAO and when real world weather kicks in it might even drop to 25 or lower. I am running Word Not Allowed's VSync tweak so whenever I get below 30 FPS I get bad microstuttering, otherwise it's extremely smooth though.

If I would buy an ultra high resolution monitor like you, FPS would probably drop to 20. And now imagine that with 3 monitors, probably 15 FPS only.

 

As long as we will be running FSX as our flightsim platform, i will stick to one single big 1080p monitor, gonna get a 27 inch one shortly. I'd rather have one monitor with a smooth flight than 3 monitors at 15-20 FPS.

 

Maybe if there will be a newer FS platform in the future, which will not be as much of a recourse hog, maybe then we can run 3 monitors at 60 FPS in a PMDG plane, max graphics. Wouldn't that be a dream?

Been considering and still considering multimonitor setup. I just dont like the looks of the screen bazels and performance hit. P3d has a "multichannel" display option which allow's additional display's while maintaining sytem performance. How? One computer per monitor using simconnect :) Umm, pricey.

@Howard just a gentle reminder that all users of AVSIM forums are now required to put there PC specs in the new facility provided for just that, specs are no longer allowed in signatures. Details of the new rules can be found at the link below.

 

http://forum.avsim.n...-other-changes/

 

Hi Andy. Yes I did know. I could just not face filling out all of the forms but done now.

And running 5670/1080 is never going to give you smooth 30fps, except if you are not using VC/panels, like westman is doing.

 

There is generally speaking absolutely no difficulty achieving smooth 30+ FPS using 5760x1080 if the hardware is good enough and the software is configured correctly, even with a fair amount of eyecandy. The exception being extreme FPS hogs like UK2000....

 

I made a quick test with the NGX in VC mode at UK2000/EGLL in 5760x1080 (+ bezel compensation) standing on the runway and the average FPS is about 20-25, which is about 10-20 FPS lower than any other fairly complex addon airport using the exact same configuration. Of course this doesn't really say much without showing the exact configuration of the hardware, every setting in FSX, Nvidia inspector, all the addons and their settings, etc etc. UK2000 is kind of the worst case scenario regarding FPS and I find 20-25 to be too low to be enjoyable. The bad performance is not because of the multiple screens though.

 

I find Nvidia surround mode in e.g. 5760x1080 a pure pleasure and the FPS difference from using a single screen is virtually zero these days. I've been using multiple screens for the past several years (TH2GO, SoftTH, wideview, Eyefinity, and now Surround mode) and while there may be other issues, performance is no longer one of them (although when using such resolutions you probably want to bump LOD_RADIUS quite some bit, which will affect performance to some extent).

 

As for the question regarding GTX 680 I wouldn't know anything about it since I haven't tried that card.

I take it you dont have any of the other airports UK2000 make, they are actually one of THE best for low FPS hit, except for EGLL, but its a bloody big airport with 100's of active animated gates what do you expect.

There is generally speaking absolutely no difficulty achieving smooth 30+ FPS using 5760x1080 if the hardware is good enough and the software is configured correctly, even with a fair amount of eyecandy. The exception being extreme FPS hogs like UK2000....

 

I made a quick test with the NGX in VC mode at UK2000/EGLL in 5760x1080 (+ bezel compensation) standing on the runway and the average FPS is about 20-25, which is about 10-20 FPS lower than any other fairly complex addon airport using the exact same configuration. Of course this doesn't really say much without showing the exact configuration of the hardware, every setting in FSX, Nvidia inspector, all the addons and their settings, etc etc. UK2000 is kind of the worst case scenario regarding FPS and I find 20-25 to be too low to be enjoyable. The bad performance is not because of the multiple screens though.

 

I find Nvidia surround mode in e.g. 5760x1080 a pure pleasure and the FPS difference from using a single screen is virtually zero these days. I've been using multiple screens for the past several years (TH2GO, SoftTH, wideview, Eyefinity, and now Surround mode) and while there may be other issues, performance is no longer one of them (although when using such resolutions you probably want to bump LOD_RADIUS quite some bit, which will affect performance to some extent).

 

As for the question regarding GTX 680 I wouldn't know anything about it since I haven't tried that card.

 

Are your FPS with everything maxed with UT or equivalent maxed and lots of cloud? My system is very similar and there is no chance of achieving those figures on mine.

I'm running no AI traffic. I am flying online on IVAO so that's the only traffic I see. At Aerosoft EHAM I am getting 35 FPS on the runways, and 25-30 FPS near the gates. But when I connect to IVAO and when real world weather kicks in it might even drop to 25 or lower. I am running Word Not Allowed's VSync tweak so whenever I get below 30 FPS I get bad microstuttering, otherwise it's extremely smooth though.

If I would buy an ultra high resolution monitor like you, FPS would probably drop to 20. And now imagine that with 3 monitors, probably 15 FPS only.

 

As long as we will be running FSX as our flightsim platform, i will stick to one single big 1080p monitor, gonna get a 27 inch one shortly. I'd rather have one monitor with a smooth flight than 3 monitors at 15-20 FPS.

 

Maybe if there will be a newer FS platform in the future, which will not be as much of a recourse hog, maybe then we can run 3 monitors at 60 FPS in a PMDG plane, max graphics. Wouldn't that be a dream?

Hi Howard,

 

I used to have three monitors, all gone now, replaced with one single 30" with 2560x1600 resolution. Removing all AI traffics, gave me the same performance as you. Before I upgraded to a SB system, I thought I could have introduce some AI. Well AI is off for me.

1) AIRPORT= EHAM Approaching on Runway 24.

NL2000 Photoscenery

Aircraft = PMDG 737 NG VC

UT 2 AI (MAximum. I kept hitting Ctl Shift F12 to get maximum Traffic

Weather = ORBX Weather 1 (from their PNW).

3 X 24" (1920 X 1200)

Fullscreen mode (But the screen capture was done in Windows.. I was getting Black screen in Fullscreen)

 

FPS = 11

 

Image

 

Hide the taskbar and try again, you can lose as much as 40% FPS just from not hiding the taskbar in windowed mode in Windows 7 and Vista.

2) Airport Gatwick on 26L (UK2000. Demoversion. I installed the demo now) I also installed the demo Heathrow and the Aerosoft's London city and city airport

VFR UK photoscenery

Aircraft = PMDG 737 NG VC

UT 2 AI (MAximum. I kept hitting Ctl Shift F12 to get maximum Traffic

Weather = ORBX Weather 1 (from their PNW).

3 X 24" (1920 X 1200)

Fullscreen mode (But the screen capture was done in Windows.. I was getting Black screen in Fullscreen)

 

FPS = 15

 

Image

 

 

I had no taskbar when I got the FPS. I jhust couldn't do screen capture in full window mode;

 

Both were flyable.. :)

 

Ivy i7 3770K OC = 4.5Ghz

Video card = EVGA 670 FTW

Gskill Trident 2400 = But right now at 19xx only

 

I am surprised EHAM has a much bigger hit than Gatwick. I should buy the Gatwic kand the Heathrow scenery then. I was worrried about them being hog. I was expecting like 5 FPS Hmmm....