I agree with FScamp and others that the airplane is a dog in roll and yaw. Nigh on impossible to make a river visual to DCA! In the aircraft.cfg I changed aileron effectiveness to 4.4, rudder effectiveness to 2.4, and enabled the spoilerons. These are WAG values, but they seem good when flying.

 

Everyone is smarter than me about these things, but shouldn't the spoilerons already have been enabled for this model? Is this an oversight?

And how do I get to keep the addon liveries but delete the FMS?

More about the spoilerons in aircraft.cfg.--

 

With spoilerons enabled, I get spoilerons in the animation and on the main panel, but the clamshell opens with left aileron. Go figure.

With spoilerons disabled, I get spoilerons in the animation, but no indication on the panel, and the clamshell behaves. I don't think there's aerodynamic function with spoilerons disabled, it's just for show.

I just had all engines flame out and all power and avionics quit at 17000. Don't know if I did anything wrong?

I had a lot of fun this weekend flying the 146. I hope they will fix the rudder and aileron sluggishness. Also I can't seem to use my com radio without the engines running, and it would be nice to be able to safe a flight with the panel state. Now if you load up an approach all flags are on, it's cold and dark, the engines are running, but nothing works, including the Hyd pumps. If they fix the issues it will be a great addon. FPS are great, like the default cessna172

We are currently working on the service pack for this product.

 

If you have encountered any issues that you have not yet reported directly to the support team using the support request form, please report them now so that we can address them in the service pack: http://www.justflight.com/support-contact

The 146-200/300 service pack is now available. You can obtain it by downloading the updated version of the product from your Just Flight account. More details are available here: http://www.justfligh...146-200#Update1

 

The 146-200 has now become 146-200/300 due to the addition of the 146-300 model and liveries included in the service pack.

 

This service pack includes the following content:

 

 

BONUS! 146-300 model with five liveries included

• New - Panel selector icons added to virtual cockpit
  
• New - FMC icon added to panel selector
  
• New - NAV 2 radio icon added to panel selector
  
• Auto-start functionality improved (clicking Auto start icon now sets up aircraft fully for takeoff)
  
• New - Auto-shutdown functionality added (clicking on Auto start icon for a second time will configure aircraft in cold & dark state)
  
• New - Ambient cockpit sound added
  
• Slow/Fast scale on AI operating in reverse - fixed
  
• Jetway alignment for passenger door not correct - fixed
  
• FDE improved (aileron and rudder response etc)
  
• No avionics power until engines are started - fixed
  
• Clickspots for ALT SEL on 2D panel open VHF NAV radio popup - fixed
  
• Green elevator trim band missing from virtual cockpit - fixed
  
• Avionics section of overhead panel in 2D and virtual cockpit don't match - fixed
  
• APU cannot be heard after start sound finishes - fixed
  
• Altimeter resets to 2992/1013.2 rather than the correct pressure setting - fixed
  
• Engine oil temperatures are too low (not in the green) at all operating conditions - fixed
  
• GPWS multiple callouts (e.g ten-ten-ten) - fixed
  
• Hydraulic systems are operating at 3400 psi, should be 3000 psi - fixed
  
• AC sources (APU, engine generators and ext AC) are operating at 125 VAC, should be 115 VAC - fixed
  
• DC TRUs are operating at 32 VDC, should be 28 VDC - fixed
  
• V speed callouts operating midair - fixed
  

For 146 Livery & FMC pack users (in addition to the above)

 

BONUS! Four new 146-300 liveries included

 

• FMC issue on non-English language PCs (FMC flightplan page showing 'iiii') fixed
  

I purchased the 146 from a major 3rd party vendor (who presumably has a relationship with Justflight). According to Justflight it is the customers onus to contact the third party to ask them to contact Justflight to obtain the update. Justflight=Lazy.

Same issue with me I purchased the BAe 146-200 from another vendor. I sent a message to the vendor and hopefully they will update the downloader to the new version because my download for the product expires soon.

I think you guys should wait and not bash Just Flight. Just Flight delivered the updated plane to all the vendors and it´s responsability of them, the vendors, to contact you. I too bought my copy from a major 3d Party Vendor and already got contacted by them to redowload the plane. No worries about download expires too, as your time will be refreshed because of the new version for sure. Just be patient.

 

And of course, Thanks Nortmar for the news. The update is most wellcome :Peace:

I wasn't bashing Just Flight they have always helped me quickly and professionally. I was just confirming that if the product was purchased from a third party site you may want to contact them to get the update posted. I am patient. No harm no foul.

 

 

Taver, I think he was referring to dighost's bizarre comment about us being lazy :huh:

 

Due to the amount of files that get updated by the service pack and the additional content (146-300 + 5 liveries) we felt it made a lot more sense to update the product installer itself, rather than releasing a separate service pack which would have made things more confusing for all concerned (especially from a tech support POV!).

 

If we release a service pack for any of our products we provide a third-party version of the installer on our website so that you don't have to obtain it from the place of purchase, however as this is an updated product installer we are not able to do this for the 146.

 

As far as I'm aware this is fairly common practice in the FS world and obtaining the updated installer from retailers like SimMarket shouldn't be difficult as I imagine they will simply update the installer links in your account.

 

Thanks

Martyn

Why reopening an old topic and not start a new one? It happens so (too) often.

 

Jos

Nah, it's actually good thing that people bring up old topics so more information can be found from one place instead of it being scattered all around.

I've updated to the 146-300 and it's not bad, but I thought the -300 model used small early generation glass gauges (EADI / EHSI) ?

 

This -300 model has the same cockpit as the -200 in terms of gauges etc.