August 20, 201213 yr Hi all, I just picked up the Milviz C310 and have been trying to get some rules of thumb for approach and landing. Looking at the real world forums it seems that those pilots are all over the map...anywhere from 120 to 80 KIAS on final! Can any of you share *your* techniques for VFR pattern and/or instrument final? It'd be a big help and give me a boost on getting started with this aircraft!! Gregg Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
August 20, 201213 yr Hi all, I just picked up the Milviz C310 and have been trying to get some rules of thumb for approach and landing. Looking at the real world forums it seems that those pilots are all over the map...anywhere from 120 to 80 KIAS on final! Can any of you share *your* techniques for VFR pattern and/or instrument final? It'd be a big help and give me a boost on getting started with this aircraft!! Gregg 120kts is a good speed in the pattern for a C310 (or so that's what we use). On approach, aim for blue line (Vyse). Only on short final is red line okay (Vmc) in normal landings. Look for 75-80 knots over the threshold. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
August 20, 201213 yr Good advice given there! Blue line for approach speed is the normally accepted standard. If you want a detailed tutorial video that covers pattern operations, suggest you head over to the MilViz website and grab the series of tutorial videos available. They are free. You will have a virtual instructor talk you through the maneuvers, including pattern power settings and speeds. Ken
August 20, 201213 yr Gregg, MilViz has very good documentation. I suggest dig out some charts, clues. There is a lot of interesting read in every MilViz docs. Bartłomiej Ender
August 20, 201213 yr Author Good advice given there! Blue line for approach speed is the normally accepted standard. If you want a detailed tutorial video that covers pattern operations, suggest you head over to the MilViz website and grab the series of tutorial videos available. They are free. You will have a virtual instructor talk you through the maneuvers, including pattern power settings and speeds. Ken Hi Ken, Are you referring to the mission in the forum? Not sure I'm looking in the right places. Gregg Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
August 20, 201213 yr I believe Ken was trying to point out the Checkride Missions he produced, there are video tutorials for the F15. He owned a 310 and was instrumental in many elements of the aircrafts development , working with Bernt Stole, Bill Leaming and others duplicating every aspect including the many cockpit sounds i find fascinating.
August 20, 201213 yr Good advice given there! Blue line for approach speed is the normally accepted standard. If you want a detailed tutorial video that covers pattern operations, suggest you head over to the MilViz website and grab the series of tutorial videos available. They are free. You will have a virtual instructor talk you through the maneuvers, including pattern power settings and speeds. Ken Hi I just bought the C310 and love it but I can't find the tutorial videos on the Milviz website. - any pointers to where I should look for them would be very welcome. Many thanks Dave Intel I7-4770 3.4Ghz 16 Gb RAM nVidia GTX770 2Gb Windows 8.1 64 bit P3D 4.4/3.4 FSX SE
August 20, 201213 yr Author Good advice given there! Blue line for approach speed is the normally accepted standard. If you want a detailed tutorial video that covers pattern operations, suggest you head over to the MilViz website and grab the series of tutorial videos available. They are free. You will have a virtual instructor talk you through the maneuvers, including pattern power settings and speeds. Ken Dear lord, how humbling. LOL. First tutorial and I stunk. This airplane has me busy and I have a great deal to learn. I took copious notes, though. That kind of tutorial is precisely what you need to learn an airplane. Think about all of the information that was provided that is not contained in the checklist. Think of all the tips, thoughts, explanations, reasons for doing things, urgency of some points. This is what you have to get in order to become good. Thanks so much for putting it together!! Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
August 20, 201213 yr Commercial Member Ken rocks. No question. Please contact oisin at milviz dot com for forum registration information. Please provide proof of purchase if you want support. Also, include the username you wish to have.
August 20, 201213 yr Dear lord, how humbling. LOL. First tutorial and I stunk. This airplane has me busy and I have a great deal to learn. I took copious notes, though. That kind of tutorial is precisely what you need to learn an airplane. Think about all of the information that was provided that is not contained in the checklist. Think of all the tips, thoughts, explanations, reasons for doing things, urgency of some points. This is what you have to get in order to become good. Thanks so much for putting it together!! Every CFI I have ever known takes tips. I mean like 'Beer Money' tips. You are spot on, Gregg. If you can pass the multi-engine checkride in Ken's tutorial you will be one of the better sim pilots around. Ray When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .
August 20, 201213 yr Author Hey Ray, Haven't seen you around much lately. I *know* you typed if when you meant to say when. LOL. :p0504: A whole lot to learn. I picked up the BE55 and stuffed it into my hangar too. It'll be sitting a long, long time...no rush. I found the thread from long ago where the C310 was released and discussed by everyone and the BE55 was requested. I'd already experienced that pull to the left when I release brakes the night before and when I read that......so *that's* what happened. Shakes head. A lot of thought, work, and care went into these airplanes. I can't fly everything at once but someday...when I'm sitting in my 'aero club' I'll get a checkout in it. Those tutorials are a real rescue. Gregg Gregg Seipp "A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane. A great landing is when you can reuse it." i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090
August 20, 201213 yr Commercial Member Wait till you fly the Sabre... Please contact oisin at milviz dot com for forum registration information. Please provide proof of purchase if you want support. Also, include the username you wish to have.
August 20, 201213 yr Wait till you fly the Sabre... Just waiting on you guys... :wink: Can't wait! Philip Manhart :American Flag: - "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." ~ Plato
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