I understand the model is very nice but I really can't see myself going backwards to 2d now...im just too set in my ways im afraid....would love to try it though just to see the difference compared to most others ive tried.

 

I will continue to keep at it....all i really need is to find 2 awesome x-planes (1 prop and 1 small jet) and then at least I could use this thing alongside FSX.

 

Hi Dave,

 

I can understand that going back to 2D is a no-sale, I'm also in the same mindset as you. we've been spoiled by all the great 3D cockpits to come out recently.

 

As far as what you're looking for (prop and small jet) XPX has some rather nice offerings. For a small jet look for the JRollon Bombardier, an excellent model and great fun to fly. For the prop, anything from Carenado especially their Beechcraft, are quite good with realistic flight dynamics according to some real pilots. 4Forces has a Cessna 152 that is also a lot of fun to fly and their model is being revamped for XPX. Anything done by Leading Edge Simulations is of excellent quality, their Duchess is quite a good sim in it's own right and Goran has promised an update for XPX.

 

It goes without saying that XPX does not have the depth of available addons that FSX has, but with every new release, the gap narrows. The 777 by Philipp and Roman is simply stunning and quite involving though it needs a few fixes to function in XPX 10.10 RC. The IXEG 737-300 slated to be released shortly will change forever the way people look at X-Plane. Some very exciting times ahead for flight simulation enthusiasts.

I like these small details. First time I saw the police speeding down the road flashing their lights I really enjoyed the immersion. It's a really nice touch!

 

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I agree. I believe X-Plane is coming along very good. I really like the new Boeing 777 by Ramzzee and, of course all of the Carenado aircraft that are coming its way. I just bought the C208 Grand Caravan HD Series and Cargo Master pack. It is every bit as good as the FSX version.

@ Hanger,

 

Very good answer Dave, and thanks for the input, and for taking me the way I had hoped you would.

 

Let me suggest the aforementioned Piper Archer III, by MortonM. It is the only plane that I fly that does not have a 3D panel, I fly it because i do have several hundred hours in a Archer III, and flying this one feels so familiar. It just works right. Here is a link, http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=8870

 

Almost anything done by XPFR is good, their B17 is incredible and works well in XP 10, if you don't like to go through systems though, it might not be so good, it takes about 30 to 45 minutes of hard work to get it started, if you have the time though it is well modeled. All of XPFR freeware has 3D panels.

 

For a payware the Carenado F33A Bonanza gives me that familiar feeling that he Archer does, and one other simulaion I can highly recommend, is Leading Edge Simulations DC3 not only the flight model, and the 3D cockpit is suburb, the sound is very well done too.

 

For J Rollon I cannot recommend the T34A highly enough. I think this plane is the first payware aircraft I bought, and I am fanatical about J Rollon art work. You get two different flight model too. I don't have actual time in a T34 but this one feels about what I would imagine one to feel like. Close enough for me at any rate.

 

Stay well,

As an ultimate low-and-slow (helo) pilot, I'm all for ground details like this - they add a huge amount to the immersion. I don't begrudge people the desire for a 100-percent authentic FMC so they can change their routing while sitting up at the flight levels on autopilot over a distant gray landscape... but remember, not all of us fly that way. What's eye candy for one of us is eye nutrition for another.

 

If we're racking up recommendations, I'll put in a word for the Leading Edge Simulations DC-3, available over at X-Aviation. A great, atmospheric product - and I'm saying that as someone who's extremely devoted to A2A's Accusim line for FSX. This doesn't offer exactly the same level of down-to-the-cylinder-head simulation (I'm not sure that X-Plane supports that easily) but it flies like a dream, has a great VC and sound set, and it's truly a you-are-there experience. Goran can't recommend it because he's the developer... but I can. And I do. Have a look.

 

Hello Alan,As another A2A Accu-Sim Enthusiust Leading Edges upcoming Saab looks quite detailed!! Although I mainly like to Fly GA this is another X-Plane project I'm very much looking forward to.

Cheers!

Leading Edges upcoming Saab looks quite detailed!

 

+1

 

Looking fwd for it's release... At this time of my simmer life it's about the bigger airplane I am up to... Well, the dc-3 was a remarkable exception, but is certainly worth the use, and not having sophisticated avionics is simply great!

 

The Saab will shine when somewhere ahead in the releases of X-Plane10 Austin even finds the time to make the free-running turbine types even more realistic, i.e. in as far as FF variation with Prop RPM goes... Just as it is it's certainly way better than what we get in FSX though

Agree the Saab looks impressive. The question for me will be systems complexity - with the best of intentions, I don't seem to do well with aircraft, especially modern transport aircraft, that have a lot of systems to master. I can't seem to put enough time in to get really good at them - on the FSX side, I've tried a few PMDGs including the J41, but I usually break down somewhere in the tutorials and never get to any actual flying. My best case is a deeply modeled aircraft with relatively simple systems, or with some kind of operational support. Among the A2A products, I spend most of my time with the Cub, the B-17 (where you can offload some of the engine cooling systems to the copilot) and the 377 COTS (where the flight engineer takes most of the system operations off your hands). Here in XP, the DC-3 is perfect - a serious transport airplane, beautifully rendered and simulated, that's quick to start and get off the ground. I'll try to stay open-minded, though - I'm always tempted by the dark side of complexity and one of these aircraft - maybe the Saab - could be the breakthrough.