October 23, 201213 yr Hello, i was wondering, is there any place that i can start learn from to the T7 (freeware) if there's no freeware web, then any payware? BTW, does anybody started to learn on the T7? will it take a lot of time if i know to fly the NGX perfectly, know the aircraft system in general and on 747? cheers! Daniel choen
October 23, 201213 yr I believe the freeware 777s are useless. Without mentioning any names of payware, I suggest you search Youtube for tutorials based on them. I found two easily but I think they are fs9 only. Based on the tutorials, you can decide whether or not they are worthwhile considering. Dugald Walker
October 23, 201213 yr Commercial Member While the T7 has its differences, a Boeing's a Boeing's a Boeing. You'll really feel right at home when you finally have it installed. If you've flown the PMDG 737 and the 747, you'll pick up on some differences, but it won't take a ton of study to figure out how to work it acceptably. If you're looking for manuals and so on, I think you'll find some great info over at www.smartcockpit.com Kyle Rodgers
October 23, 201213 yr Author I believe the freeware 777s are useless. Without mentioning any names of payware, I suggest you search Youtube for tutorials based on them. I found two easily but I think they are fs9 only. Based on the tutorials, you can decide whether or not they are worthwhile considering. thanks! While the T7 has its differences, a Boeing's a Boeing's a Boeing. You'll really feel right at home when you finally have it installed. If you've flown the PMDG 737 and the 747, you'll pick up on some differences, but it won't take a ton of study to figure out how to work it acceptably. If you're looking for manuals and so on, I think you'll find some great info over at www.smartcockpit.com thanks Kyle, looks great, cheers. Daniel choen
October 23, 201213 yr Kyle is correct, once you've flown one Boeing you've flown them all! I didn't want to fly the NGX as I thought it'd take too long to learn it coming from the 763, truth is that they're both pretty identical. Just different layouts in the flight deck you'll need to familiarise yourself with. Of course they're all different in the ways they operate and fly but coming from the NGX people won't or shouldn't have too many problems. Just remember there's no IRS and the Packs on engine start are all automatic :LMAO: I'll be getting tutorials out within the first week or two of release :-) - Luke Pabari
October 23, 201213 yr Commercial Member If you think Boeings are all the same,,, what makes Airbus? ... Boeings are different, with completely different cockpit layouts [757 and 767 very similar]. Alex Ridge Join Fswakevortex here! YOUTUBE and FACEBOOK
October 25, 201213 yr If you think Boeings are all the same,,, what makes Airbus? ... The difference - Boeing is a pilot's aircraft, Airbus is a computer being managed by the crew at best :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: Werner Gillespie CYB2400Proud member of Cyber Air Virtual AirlinesAVSIM Staff Member
October 25, 201213 yr The difference - Boeing is a pilot's aircraft, Airbus is a computer being managed by the crew at best :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: +1 "If you can't solve and equation with calculus, you're not using enough calculus" - A wise friend
October 25, 201213 yr Giggles, The difference - Boeing is a pilot's aircraft, Airbus is a computer being managed by the crew at best :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: Hmmm, looking at the 787 cockpit I don't see any computers involved in this cockpit at all, all nice analogue steam gauges, ha ha ha
October 25, 201213 yr Giggles, Hmmm, looking at the 787 cockpit I don't see any computers involved in this cockpit at all, all nice analogue steam gauges, ha ha ha See those 5 tiny screens? Yeah I think that they could be connected to computers, could be wrong though Oliver Benton
October 25, 201213 yr Kyle is correct, once you've flown one Boeing you've flown them all! I didn't want to fly the NGX as I thought it'd take too long to learn it coming from the 763, truth is that they're both pretty identical. Just different layouts in the flight deck you'll need to familiarise yourself with. Of course they're all different in the ways they operate and fly but coming from the NGX people won't or shouldn't have too many problems. Just remember there's no IRS and the Packs on engine start are all automatic &lt;img src='http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_emoticons/&lt;#EMO_DIR#&gt;/LMAO.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img src='http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/LMAO.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<img src='http://forum.avsim.net/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/LMAO.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':LMAO:' />' />' /&gt;<br /><br />I'll be getting tutorials out within the first week or two of release :-)<br /><br /><br /><br />If the T7 doesn't have IRS, then how does it navigate, I thought GPS can only be used to correct IRS drift, not as a primary navigation source John-Alan Pascoe
October 25, 201213 yr It has an air data inertial reference unit or ADIRU (see Wikipedia). To my untrained eye it seems to be a more modern version of IRS Dugald Walker
October 25, 201213 yr Commercial Member If the T7 doesn't have IRS, then how does it navigate, I thought GPS can only be used to correct IRS drift, not as a primary navigation source Not true. If so, a great number of general and business aviation would be hosed... Citations, Gulfstreams, Falcons, and all of your smaller planes don't have IRS. Most have GPS, if not a lot less. Kyle Rodgers
October 25, 201213 yr From the original manual, or straight from the horses mouth so to speak.... 1. Navigation systems include global positioning system (GPS), air data inertial reference system (ADIRS), VOR, DME, ILS, ADF, ATC transponder, weather radar, and the flight management system (FMS). 2. Left and right GPS receivers are independent and supply very accurate geographical data to the FMC. All GPS tuning is automatic. 3. If the ADIRU becomes inoperative during flight, the EICAS displays the message NAV ADIRU INERTIAL and the FMC uses only GPS data to navigate. 4. Air Data Inertial Reference System (ADIRS) The ADIRS calculates airplane position, speed, altitude, and attitude data for the displays, flight management system, flight controls, engine controls, and other systems. The major components of ADIRS are the air data inertial reference unit (ADIRU), secondary attitude and air data reference unit (SAARU), and air data modules. 5. Air Data Inertial Reference Unit (ADIRU) The ADIRU supplies primary flight data, inertial reference, and air data. The ADIRU is fault–tolerant and fully redundant. 6. GPS position updates are allowed for all United States National Airspace approach operations. Outside of this region, GPS position updates are allowed during approaches only if the FMC database and approach charts are referenced to the WGS-84 reference datum. GPS updates should be inhibited for all other approach operations, unless other appropriate procedures are used.
October 25, 201213 yr Not true. If so, a great number of general and business aviation would be hosed... Citations, Gulfstreams, Falcons, and all of your smaller planes don't have IRS. Most have GPS, if not a lot less. The larger Gulfstreams do have an IRS, but other than that I stand corected. I dug through the FAA site and they do indeed allow GPS without any other means of long-range navigation, even for oceanic / remote operations. (AC20-138C, appendix A, for those of you that like legalese). John-Alan Pascoe
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