November 7, 201213 yr Running a road painted stop sign is the same thing as running a pole stop sign. The top winger could have LANDED on the hill and rolled to airport, and it would STILL be the car's fault. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
November 7, 201213 yr And flying a plane in FSX is the same thing as flying a plane in real life. Again, everyone is looking at the Zapruder Film, measuring flap angles, clocking speeds, adjusting hights... The plane has the RIGHT OF WAY. Period.
November 7, 201213 yr Again, everyone is looking at the Zapruder Film, measuring flap angles, clocking speeds, adjusting hights... The plane has the RIGHT OF WAY. Period. We get what you're trying to convey. It's fundamentally wrong and too near sighted for this slightly more complex scenario, but we get it! As a CFI, I observe plenty of issues going on in this video. Can we stop beating this poor, very dead horse? ^_^ ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
November 7, 201213 yr It's fundamentally wrong and too near sighted for this slightly more complex scenario And hopefully for the driver, she wont be too near sighted to read the ticket she's gotten for running a stop sign. Can we stop beating this poor, very dead horse? LOL. Yes, indeed.
November 7, 201213 yr Commercial Member So now the argument is the aircraft had the right of way? LMAO HAHAHAHA Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
November 7, 201213 yr And hopefully for the driver, she wont be too near sighted to read the ticket she's gotten for running a stop sign. LOL. Yes, indeed. Haha. At least she and her hubby are home safe and sound not having a nose gear removed from their faces. Good grief! ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
November 7, 201213 yr I redact my statement. After further review with council, because the access road is a private road, no citations would have been issued. Also, FAA spokesman Lynn Lunsford said the organization has "no regulatory authority over safety measures at the airport.", because the airport is private. http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/denton/Caught-on-Tape-Roanoake-177177461.html
November 7, 201213 yr Commercial Member I redact my statement. After further review with council, because the access road is a private road, no citations would have been issued. Also, FAA spokesman Lynn Lunsford said the organization has "no regulatory authority over safety measures at the airport.", because the airport is private. http://www.wfaa.com/...-177177461.html That's why it's always good to research before shooting from the holster. lol =) Now, can someone explain to me how can someone say this road is crossing an active runway? Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
November 7, 201213 yr Now, can someone explain to me how can someone say this road is crossing an active runway? The temptation to reply with a number of acerbic remarks to diminish a certain poster is a little too strong... so I think I'll take a pass on this one. So with that... Let's get back to our irregularly scheduled programming... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNrsQniimFw
November 7, 201213 yr FAA spokesman Lynn Lunsford said the organization has "no regulatory authority over safety measures at the airport." Why is that, and what would be necesssary for the FAA to have authority over an airport? Gerry Howard
November 7, 201213 yr Running a road painted stop sign is the same thing as running a pole stop sign. The top winger could have LANDED on the hill and rolled to airport, and it would STILL be the car's fault. You think if he'd done that (other than in an emergency) there's be no blame attached to the pilot following an inquiry??
November 7, 201213 yr Seems the Google Maps image is outdated and the displaced threshold is back at the end of the runway. http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/denton/Making-Roanokes-airport-safer-for-motorists-177370681.html Captain Kevin Air Kevin 124 heavy, wind calm, runway 4 left, cleared for take-off. Live streams of my flights here.
November 8, 201213 yr Seems the Google Maps image is outdated and the displaced threshold is back at the end of the runway. Well... you can clearly see the displaced threshold... the 4 arrows and "NSTD dsplcd thld only 1' bar. Dsplcd thld markings yellow." (from the AF/D). I was just curious if one could make out the "STOP" on the pavement (not that it would matter much). Why is that, and what would be necesssary for the FAA to have authority over an airport? You have asked what I consider a very complicated question... Probably best served if an answer would come from a lawyer... and a constitutional lawyer or aviation lawyer at that. And you could probably spend a couple hours discussing it. It's going to deal with the powers enumerated to the FAA by Congress and the rights the individual has re: private property (US Constitution). The bottom line (in this case) you can't just slap a stop sign (not even a "valid" one at that) on private property and expect anyone to stop. There is no legal requirement and no one to enforce what might be a civil law. Much more involved than that... These are cases where it is most likely to be "regulated" by the insurance company. It's possible the couple of the Volvo will sue (how much you wanna bet they have not contacted a lawyer... I bet they have) and who is the deep pockets here - the airport owner. Possible scenario... the couple sues... wins... insurance company pays out... then cancels the airport's liability policy. Or demands certain changes be made to satisfy them (insurance co.)... that another incident is not likely to take place. There are certainly other possible scenarios... involvement by the state aviation board etc.
November 8, 201213 yr Well... you can clearly see the displaced threshold... the 4 arrows and "NSTD dsplcd thld only 1' bar. Dsplcd thld markings yellow." (from the AF/D). I was just curious if one could make out the "STOP" on the pavement (not that it would matter much). I haven't looked at the Google Maps image, actually. I just read the article and posted the link. Captain Kevin Air Kevin 124 heavy, wind calm, runway 4 left, cleared for take-off. Live streams of my flights here.
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