We still cant load Fule/Pax from TOPCAT into the NGX, correct?

We still cant load Fule/Pax from TOPCAT into the NGX, correct?

 

You can load pax and load.

You can't load fuel because PMDG's restrictions.

 

See ya!

I know this is an old post, however, I have the topcat configuration for the 737-800 refined and accurate.  It is a lot different from the one post here because the OP didn't use the correct data.  Here is the correct one.

 

 

[GENERAL]

Aircraft=PMDG Mixed Class Winglets NGX

Units=LB

 

[CONFIGURATION]

Config=C12 Y150

Pax=162

Cargo=22380

Fuel=46050

DOW=91300

MZFW=138300

MTOW=174200

MLW=146300

Assumed=Y

Derate=Y

Combine=Y

 

[AIRCRAFT]

aircraft.0=B737-800_GE

 

[TRIM]

wing_root_chord=18.9

wing_area=1348.000

wing_span=113.1

wing_sweep=23.5

wing_pos_apex_lon=7.15

empty_weight_CG_position = -5.51

MAC_Shift=0.09

 

[MAC_LIMITS_ZFW]

mac.0=79823;10;25.9

mac.1=86822;9.85;27.65

mac.2=134409;7.99;30.5

mac.3=138298;8.96;30.72

mac.4=144500;9.61;30.9

mac.5=146299;19.15;31

 

[MAC_LIMITS_TOW]

mac.0=79823;10;27.2

mac.1=134409;7.99;30.5

mac.2=138298;8.96;30.72

mac.3=144500;9.61;30.9

mac.4=161068;12.8;32.77

mac.5=172670;14.8;30.08

mac.6=174198;16.95;25.10

 

[MAC_LIMITS_LDW]

mac.0=79823;10;25.9

mac.1=86822;9.85;27.65

mac.2=134409;7.99;30.5

mac.3=138298;8.96;30.72

mac.4=144500;9.61;30.9

mac.5=146299;19.15;31

 

[PASSENGER_STATIONS]

station.0=12;16.1;Fwd Cabin;1

station.1=128;-5.9;Mid Cabin;2 

station.2=22;-28.1;Aft Cabin;3

 

[CARGO_STATIONS]

station.0=11190;15.9;Fwd Cargo;4

station.1=11190;-26.4;Aft Cargo;5

 

[FUEL]

tank.0=-9.11;4

tank.1=-1.884;1

tank.2=-9.11;7

 

;1  Centre Tank

;2  Centre Tank 2

;3  Centre Tank 3

;4  Left Main Tank

;5  Left Aux Tank

;6  Left Tip Tank

;7  Right Main Tank

;8  Right Aux Tank

;9  Right Tip Tank

;10 External Tank 1

;11 External Tank 2

 

Cheers and Enjoy!

Where does this data go in topcat please?

See post #14.

Does this actually work as it should? As far as I can tell NGX uses dynamically placed loading, which TOPCAT cannot work with.

Hi all.

 

I followed the procedure from #14:

 

6. Copy the data that i put above in this forum topic (don't copy the orange text)

...
8. In TPCAT Aicraft menu set "Add"
9. Choose the options for your Aicraft and in "Configuration" setting choose the file that you create in step 6
10. Press "Save" button

 

My question is that the file I created and renamed in step 6 won't show up in "Configuration" setting, so I cannot choose it. Any suggestions?

Thank you.

Check this line

 

Aircraft=PMDG Mixed Class Winglets NGX

 

The underlined part is what you are actually looking for.

Check this line

 

Aircraft=PMDG Mixed Class Winglets NGX

 

The underlined part is what you are actually looking for.

 

 

Thanks for the reply.

Can you clarify please? I have a feeling I am not smart enough today. I created new file as described above and pasted it in configuration folder. After that when I open TOPCAT and selected "Aircraft -  Edit" the option PMDG Mixed class Winglets NGX appeared. Before I did not see such option. So I selected it and weights look normal. Is that what you are talking about? Or I have to create Aircraft=PMDG Mixed Class Winglets NGX line in new txt file?   

 

Is that what you are talking about?

 

yep

OK. Found it.

Just one thing. Looks like PMDG provides only two configurations for 800 winglets (there is no mixed class option in FMS): Single class and two class. The configuration above is a mixed class and it shown in TOPCAT, when I choose Payload distribution: Fwd Cabin, Mid Cabin & Aft Cabin.  :huh:

The two class is the mixed class and yes the Fwd Cabin, Mid Cabin & Aft Cabin are correct.  This information comes straight from the aircraft.cfg file.  Look in the W&B section, you will see it.

The two class is the mixed class and yes the Fwd Cabin, Mid Cabin & Aft Cabin are correct.  This information comes straight from the aircraft.cfg file.  Look in the W&B section, you will see it.

Thank you. I was confused by Payload distribution option in TOPCAT. It shows all three cabins and there only two in FMC. Looks like Aft cabin is auto distributing passengers. Make sense now.  

Hi Everyone,

 

I've been following this topic for some time and making my own calculations and changes to the config files as new information has been brought to light. I've been able to create what I think are some pretty accurate TOPCAT config files for all the NGX models for both the Single and Two class cabin layouts.

 

If you wanted to give them a try you can download the ZIP folder containing my configs from my dropbox link below (I don't post too often so let me know if this isn't working):

 

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/59841802/TOPCAT_Configs_PMDG_NGX.zip

 

 

Things to note:

 

All weights are in LBS, also - set your passenger weights in TOPCAT to 175lbs (this is how much an NGX passenger weighs) and only load ADULTS. No kids or infants.

 

I've done a lot of comparing between the FMC weights and what actually appears in the FSX payload screens, as well as the aircraft.cfg files for each model. There seems to be some discrepancies in certain places, but I've tried best to determine which values work best in the config files.

 

Also, I've added some notations within the config files themselves to give an idea of how much load each station can take, and each stations percentage of the total load.

 

Lastly, I think I've done pretty well to get the MAC readings and V-speed predictions accurate. If you load up the aircraft and set an empty payload (no fuel either) you'll notice the CG reported by the FMC and from TOPCAT will be the exact same for all models. You can confirm this by checking the config file and seeing that I haven't needed to set a MAC_Shift value either.

 

Defintely the last thing to note. when selecting the Aircraft model in TOPCAT - choose Boeing 737-700 for the -600 and -700 configurations, and select Boeing 737-800 for the -800 and -900 configurations.

 

 

I'd be happy to see if anyone is able to improve on these configurations even more!

 

 

For those who just wan't a quick glance, here's my config file for the -800 with a two class cabin layout:

 

 

[GENERAL]

Aircraft=NGX738 Two Class

Units=LB

 

[CONFIGURATION]

Config=C12 Y150   

Pax=162

Cargo=24825

Fuel=46063

DOW=91300

MZFW=138300

MTOW=174700

MLW=144000                                                       // Value taken from FCOMv1 Pg.55

Assumed=Y

Derate=Y

Combine=Y

 

[AIRCRAFT]

aircraft.0=B737-800_GE

 

[TRIM]

wing_root_chord=18.9

wing_area=1348.000

wing_span=113.1

wing_sweep=23.5

wing_pos_apex_lon=7.15

empty_weight_CG_position=-5.51

MAC_Shift=0.0

 

[MAC_LIMITS_ZFW]

mac.0=79823;10;25.9

mac.1=86822;9.85;27.65

mac.2=134409;7.99;30.5

mac.3=138298;8.96;30.72

mac.4=144500;9.61;30.9

mac.5=146299;19.15;31

 

[MAC_LIMITS_TOW]

mac.0=79823;10;27.2

mac.1=134409;7.99;30.5

mac.2=138298;8.96;30.72

mac.3=144500;9.61;30.9

mac.4=161068;12.8;32.77

mac.5=172670;14.8;30.08

mac.6=174198;16.95;25.10

 

[MAC_LIMITS_LDW]

mac.0=79823;10;25.9

mac.1=86822;9.85;27.65

mac.2=134409;7.99;30.5

mac.3=138298;8.96;30.72

mac.4=144500;9.61;30.9

mac.5=146299;19.15;31

 

[PASSENGER_STATIONS]

station.0=48;16.1;Fwd Cabin;1                            // 8400             / 29.63% (25% of station load is First Class)

station.1=60;-5.9;Mid Cabin;2                              // 10500           / 37.04%

station.2=54;-28.1;Aft Cabin;3                              // 9450              / 33.33%

                                                                                    // 30450

 

[CARGO_STATIONS]

station.0=11190;15.9;Fwd Cargo;4                      // 11190           / 45.08% 

station.1=13635;-26.4;Aft Cargo;5                        // 13635           / 54.92% 

                                                                                     // 24825

 

[FUEL]

tank.0=-9.11;4                                                           // 8630              / 18.74%

tank.1=-1.884;1                                                         // 28803           / 62.53%

tank.2=-9.11;7                                                           // 8630             / 18.74%

                                                                                     // 46063

 

;1  Centre Tank

;2  Centre Tank 2

;3  Centre Tank 3

;4  Left Main Tank

;5  Left Aux Tank

;6  Left Tip Tank

;7  Right Main Tank

;8  Right Aux Tank

;9  Right Tip Tank

;10 External Tank 1

;11 External Tank 2

Thanks for providing this Luke, unfortunately, the zip file is an invalid archive. Have tried different browsers.

 

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