If your talking about which plane has the best systems simulation that is currently released then it's the Leonardo Maddog...and the FSLabs Concorde then the NGX. All amazing systems simulations no doubt.

 

I think the FSL will be the new king when it's released though.

Comparing an aircraft with a glass cockpit to an aircraft with mostly analog gauges may not be the fairest comparison, but I agree that the FSL Concorde looks very impressive. It's too bad that the graphics of the Leonardo Maddog are more outdated.

 

While I am certainly excited for the release of the FSL A320, I wouldn't immediately conclude that it will be the most complex and realistic jetliner ever created for FSX. The PMDG B737 seems to have set a very high standard, and I'm not sure I would be confident in expecting the first glass-cockpit airliner from a developer with a very small portfolio of non-glass-cockpit aircraft to exceed the quality of the former. Nevertheless, I'm quite confident that it will be an excellent rendition of the A320 well worth the wait.

Comparing an aircraft with a glass cockpit to an aircraft with mostly analog gauges may not be the fairest comparison, but I agree that the FSL Concorde looks very impressive. It's too bad that the graphics of the Leonardo Maddog are more outdated.

 

While I am certainly excited for the release of the FSL A320, I wouldn't immediately conclude that it will be the most complex and realistic jetliner ever created for FSX. The PMDG B737 seems to have set a very high standard, and I'm not sure I would be confident in expecting the first glass-cockpit airliner from a developer with a very small portfolio of non-glass-cockpit aircraft to exceed the quality of the former. Nevertheless, I'm quite confident that it will be an excellent rendition of the A320 well worth the wait.

 

I see your point about the glass and Concorde the systems are still there though

 

Disregarding graphics though the LH is still the best systems plane.

I think the NGX is the best all around plane. It has amazing systems, great graphics, and lots of cool features.

 

I do believe the FSL will surpass the NGX. They have told us about some very very cool features an IMO it will set a new standard. But at the end of the day who's going to complain about having more then a couple of high quality addons, I certainly won't

 

Cheers

Lee

 

 

If i'm being honest- I used to hate airbus, but its beginning to grow on me now that I've learn how to decently fly one. I think the problem before was the lack of high quality airbus simulations available, but that's being solved now with Airbus extended edition and in the foreseeable future, the FSL A320, so over time I reckon more and more people are gonna find that they like the Airbus. The other problem I see with the airbus in flight sims at the moment is that there is a significant lack of high quality training and tutorials for the airbus- I guarantee that on Youtube there are 5 times as many tutorials for the NGX than any single airbus simulation, but the more prominent the airbus becomes in simulation, the more tutorials there will be. My only wish is that a developer would do a decent longhaul airbus, such as the A330, A340, even the A380.

Hi Will,

 

Mathijs said that Aerosoft will produce an A330 after the A318/319 is released sometime next year.

I do believe the FSL will surpass the NGX. They have told us about some very very cool features an IMO it will set a new standard. But at the end of the day who's going to complain about having more then a couple of high quality addons, I certainly won't

I won't be complaining either!

 

Basically, my point was, before PMDG released its version of the B737, it already had the B747, MD-11, and other high-quality examples in its portfolio. While some of the planned features of the FSL A320 seem to be very groundbreaking, my expectations can not be as firm and I must view the project with greater skepticism because FSL has a more-limited portfolio to base its reputation on.

I won't be complaining either!

 

Basically, my point was, before PMDG released its version of the B737, it already had the B747, MD-11, and other high-quality examples in its portfolio. While some of the planned features of the FSL A320 seem to be very groundbreaking, my expectations can not be as firm and I must view the project with greater skepticism because FSL has a more-limited portfolio to base its reputation on.

 

Yes i see what you mean. I agree with you also. We will have to wait and see

I won't be complaining either!

 

Basically, my point was, before PMDG released its version of the B737, it already had the B747, MD-11, and other high-quality examples in its portfolio. While some of the planned features of the FSL A320 seem to be very groundbreaking, my expectations can not be as firm and I must view the project with greater skepticism because FSL has a more-limited portfolio to base its reputation on.

 

Well I would say you've missed a link there, as the MD11 and B747 were designed when Lefteris Kalamaras was lead technical developer at PMDG. Lefteris now heads FSL so while FSL may have a comparatively tiny portfolio, the guys there certainly aren't new to the field

the MD11 and B747 were designed when Lefteris Kalamaras was lead technical developer at PMDG.

Really? I didn't know that. In that case, you have a very good point.

Mathijs said that Aerosoft will produce an A330 after the A318/319 is released sometime next year.

 

That would be great- I'd love to do some Long haul in a decently realistic airbus

 

my expectations can not be as firm and I must view the project with greater skepticism because FSL has a more-limited portfolio to base its reputation on.

 

I wouldn't be doubtful of FSL because even though their portfolio is small- It's the Concorde X, right up there with PMDG and the maddog in realism, and the fact that as stated above, Lefteris was lead technical developer at PMDG so he has experience with creating simulations for 'Hardcore' Flightsimmers. I think the FSL Airbus with be one of the most realistic airliners on the market if not taking the top podium as most advanced simulation.

That would be great- I'd love to do some Long haul in a decently realistic airbus

 

 

 

I wouldn't be doubtful of FSL because even though their portfolio is small- It's the Concorde X, right up there with PMDG and the maddog in realism, and the fact that as stated above, Lefteris was lead technical developer at PMDG so he has experience with creating simulations for 'Hardcore' Flightsimmers. I think the FSL Airbus with be one of the most realistic airliners on the market if not taking the top podium as most advanced simulation.

 

Competition is good for us. So, the more developers thrive for us... the better it is. Currently, Airbus Extended is definitely the best Airbus we have. If FSL manages to develop a deeper systems a/c with Aerosoft's textures (or better), there is no question it would be the best a/c FSX has seen for many years to come. To this date, Airbus Extended is certainly the best a/c I've seen, not only due to it's textures, but also in systems, since it is a lot easier to develop a Boeing, than an Airbus. So, I certainly applaud Aerosoft for this tremendous job they have done! A developer needs some serious "balls of fire" to develop an Airbus, and Aerosoft has proven it has what-it-takes! BRAVO !

To this date, Airbus Extended is certainly the best a/c I've seen, not only due to it's textures, but also in systems, since it is a lot easier to develop a Boeing, than an Airbus. So, I certainly applaud Aerosoft for this tremendous job they have done!

Is it really that great? I think the PMDG B747 is great, but the PMDG B737 seems even better, based on screen shots, testimonies, and videos. I can't imagine any glass-cockpit aircraft, especially after seeing the first version of the Airbus X and reading about the target audience for the extended version, being better than the B737 overall.

 

Do you have any videos of the new Airbus X? If I were to purchase either the Aerosoft Airbus X (with the discount) and an Aerosoft airport or the PMDG B737 over the holidays, which would you recommend, seeing that I really enjoy flying the PMDG B747? I'm looking for an aircraft that is fully compatible with real FCOMs and FCTMs. I would like for most or all of the cockpit switches to work and for inappropriate cockpit actions to have consequences, but I do not care much for a full failures system. The B737 generally seems attractive, but I am afraid that I might not be able to get used to some of its less-automated features (compared to those of the B747).

Is it really that great? I think the PMDG B747 is great, but the PMDG B737 seems even better, based on screen shots, testimonies, and videos. I can't imagine any glass-cockpit aircraft, especially after seeing the first version of the Airbus X and reading about the target audience for the extended version, being better than the B737 overall.

 

Do you have any videos of the new Airbus X? If I were to purchase either the Aerosoft Airbus X (with the discount) and an Aerosoft airport or the PMDG B737 over the holidays, which would you recommend, seeing that I really enjoy flying the PMDG B747? I'm looking for an aircraft that is fully compatible with real FCOMs and FCTMs. I would like for most or all of the cockpit switches to work and for inappropriate cockpit actions to have consequences, but I do not care much for a full failures system. The B737 generally seems attractive, but I am afraid that I might not be able to get used to some of its less-automated features (compared to those of the B747).

 

The PMDG is a great airplane..But an Airbus is a great challenge and experience...It's a different kind of aircraft. I am really not much into Airports from Aerosoft- they are more into Europe...I am more into the continent of America-- North and Central America ! The Airbus Extended is lovely, and since I do not need it to practice my check-ride, it is more than enough for me. The textures are the best I have seen, and the flight system are Excellent! This a/c is not modeled to the last detail like a real Airbus (...), but it is by far more-than-enough for FSX.

The NGX.

 

It towers above everything!

 

Nothing else comes even close.

 

everyone knows that the FSL Airbus is going to be the new tower when its released

The PMDG is a great airplane..But an Airbus is a great challenge and experience...It's a different kind of aircraft. I am really not much into Airports from Aerosoft- they are more into Europe...I am more into the continent of America-- North and Central America ! The Airbus Extended is lovely, and since I do not need it to practice my check-ride, it is more than enough for me. The textures are the best I have seen, and the flight system are Excellent! This a/c is not modeled to the last detail like a real Airbus (...), but it is by far more-than-enough for FSX.

 

Can you or someone else explain to me what qualifies you to make such comments about an airplane's systems? I asked someone else in the Extended release topic. How can someone without even basic flight training compare the systems of the Aerosoft Airbus to the PMDG 737NG?

The PMDG is a great airplane..But an Airbus is a great challenge and experience...It's a different kind of aircraft. I am really not much into Airports from Aerosoft- they are more into Europe...I am more into the continent of America-- North and Central America ! The Airbus Extended is lovely, and since I do not need it to practice my check-ride, it is more than enough for me. The textures are the best I have seen, and the flight system are Excellent! This a/c is not modeled to the last detail like a real Airbus (...), but it is by far more-than-enough for FSX.

 

Can you or someone else explain to me what qualifies you to make such comments about an airplane's systems? I asked someone else in the Extended release topic. How can someone without even basic flight training compare the systems of the Aerosoft Airbus to the PMDG 737NG?

 

Where do you read in that post he's comparing the systems of the NGX to the A320? All he says is that it's good enough for him. This idea you have that simmers can't have an opinion on what they like or dislike about a product just because they are not an airline pilot is ludicrous. If that's the case AVSIM can close up shop, because most here wouldn't be able to post opinions in your world, since they aren't real pilots! Now I do agree one shouldn't compare accuracy to the real world unless that person is qualified, (I actually just made that mistake over in the other thread, in regards to the look of the displays!) but that is not what this poster is doing! Also from the way his post is written, I'm not sure he isn't a pilot! He does talk about practicing for check rides.

"and the flight system are Excellent!"

 

To this date, Airbus Extended is certainly the best a/c I've seen, not only due to it's textures, but also in systems