The wings of a real world airliner have to flex as we know,  so where it is possible the devs build in the same flex on the simulated modeling to reflect the same. You wouldnt want to fly in a real world B747 without the wings flexing in rough weather, it  would be a beast to fly safely

More to the point

I assume that although we can fly simulated big birds without the flexing wings in the rough  weather,  that the end result of flexing in simulations is also easier to fly, as the rough weather effects are transmitted back through controls to the cockpit along with the flexing effects. 

 

What do I Know

 

Ask Captain Randazzo I  garantee he will tell ya why

Personally I think the wing flex is a waist of time, can look a bit mickey mouse at times.

If folks really wanted realism, then asking for "wing flex" on aircraft where wings rarely flex more than a few inches after being fully flexed after takeoff (such as an ERJ-140 or 145) is unreasonable.

 

I was paying close attention to and from Wichita this weekend during some very choppy air and noted very little movement of the wingtips (less than a 2" arc). Of course the ERJs have relatively short wings, so that's the reason... :Big Grin:

Some of us like the slogan associated with Microsoft Flight Simulator:  "As Real as it Gets!"   I, for one, want to see current developers and those who wish to earn money on their creations try to keep that slogan in mind.  When they do, my wallet opens;  when they don't, I may be reluctant to open it.  Just my opinion.

 

Stan

In my opinion, if you never either view the exterior or turn your head around in the cockpit (if your particular aircraft can view the wingtips from the cockpit), then sure, not necessary.

At any other time, especially a 777 at MTOW right at the point of transitioning from a ground vehicle to an air vehicle, this particular plane would look totally goofy and unnatural with non-flexing wings....type 777 wing flex in Google and look at the pics.  :smile:

 

The 787 has an amazing wing flex as well.

 

And I also agree with others here that some planes simply don't have a wing flex that is noticeable enough to warrant too much time programming the feature into the model.  I have hundreds of butt-to seat hours looking out over an MD-80's wing...in some pretty good storms, and the flex is not that impressive and flexes at a very quick rate.  Triple seven, oh my, in a similar storm, almost looks like its getting additional lift from flapping!  :Just Kidding:   

I swear one time I thought I saw a sine-wave emanate from the base of the wing to the wingtip on a 777 I was riding in once during some really rough CAT....man that was a scary flight! 

 

Regards,

Steve Dra

 

Capt Richardo, on 07 May 2013 - 8:47 PM, said:

Personally I think the wing flex is a waist of time, can look a bit mickey mouse at times.

Funny you say that since you've been flightsimming since 1985 ?....

 

Talking bout Mickey Mouse....Remember FS4 ? No rotating wheels, no spinning props, no glass... Just a pointy box or 8 point tube with a plank stuck to it and a texture. Development could've just stopped there but it didn't....

 

When i see FSX screenshots today i often have to look twice to distinguish it from a screenshot or a RW photo... That's even true with some FSX videos.

 

You probabely don't have the CS 777...., it's a truly magnificent sight to see it take-off in replay standing alongside the runway, also because of the superb rendition of wingflex. If it's possible to model then why leave it out ? Real ones do it...

 

cheers,

jan

Some of us like the slogan associated with Microsoft Flight Simulator: "As Real as it Gets!"

 

I've always thought they should have used the slogan "As Real as we could make it..." :lol:

If folks really wanted realism, then asking for "wing flex" on aircraft where wings rarely flex more than a few inches after being fully flexed after takeoff (such as an ERJ-140 or 145) is unreasonable.

 

I was paying close attention to and from Wichita this weekend during some very choppy air and noted very little movement of the wingtips (less than a 2" arc). Of course the ERJs have relatively short wings, so that's the reason... :Big Grin:

All that said,

 

I would still go with my last, and only dev design team from, say the PMDG 737NGX could really answer that question, As I said I would think in the real world on a passenger airliner wing flex might be also felt at the controls even in a small degree.

 

Still would want to know does the design team go so far as to add wing flex and reflect that in the virtual cockpit controls, This is just a guess not a contradiction in any way,

 

Wing flex haapens in the real world to whatever extent, so why not have it in the  simulation, I mean if you dont like it you simply dont need to look at it, as it is I dont particularly worry about what happens with the wings as long as they stay fastened to the plane thats fine.

 

No angry or sarcastic comments please this is just a simple Guess.

 

Guss. 

Quite a lot of fsx YouTube vids have a window seat view with wing flex visible & back ground chatter , I personally really like it.

I suppose those vids are a matter of preference really I dont much like to see the whole landing done from the wing view, the ones I tend to watch are the cockpit landings with the occasional wing view included at intervals, its not even about the wing flex on those vids more to the Airport and scenery detail viewed from the wing view .

 

Some of these guy's put a bag load of mony into scenery and the like, I appreciate getting the chance to see it from the wing as it can look so real, just not all the way in, as with you its just my preference so I guess im an all rounder... :lol:

 

regards Guss

I never ever leave the cockpit during a flight so wing flex is completely wasted on me. Afaik wing flex can even impact performance: if that's so I can do without it even more!

I also much prefer alternating views as well , but when I'm actually flying I never leave the virtual cockpit , but if I replay the landing or take off I do like to look at different views , wing flex isn't necessarily a must for me but its nice to have it.

Me too. It is a nice addition to my experience.

I've always thought they should have used the slogan "As Real as we could make it..." :lol:

And guess what?  There are many models that HAVE Flexing Wings.  Looks like they can MAKE it!

 

Stan

Just another positive aspect of trying to emulate what happens to real world aircraft that do have wing flex.

 

Just one downside to wing flex if you are trying to apply Shockwave strobes with the aircraft at ground level. When airborne, the lights will be shown at ground level heights (below the wing). Looks a little out of place until you touch down once again.

And guess what?  There are many models that HAVE Flexing Wings.  Looks like they can MAKE it!

 

Stan

Of course it can be done. It's remarkably trivial to accomplish in FSX by using animated skinned bones. However, the downside is that it consumes a disproportionate amount of resources for the rather minor cosmetic effect.