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Release Dates Gone Wild - PFPX

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Simbrief is not bad, I tried it, but it lacks weights adjustment, winds, NAT tracks, etc. The pfpx report is extremely detailed. Simbrief is still good but as mentioned is quite a simplistic approach. Will be good for certain category of people for sure.

 

I agree that SimBrief is far from what PFPX will be (which is an instant buy for me).  However, it seems you may not have fully explored SimBrief.  For a free website, it really is quite good. 

 

You can adjust your ZFW, although I'm not convinced how accurate the fuel burn adjustment is as a result...it does adjust based on your weight, but it ends up being 1-200 lbs per ton on the NGX which seems a bit low.

 

It does provide winds aloft with the briefing, but it uses current, not forecast winds.  So on a short domestic flight it's not too bad, but on an 8 hour transatlantic haul it can be quite off.  It will not optimize a route based on winds either, as it has no inherent ability to determine routes.

 

It does recognize NAT tracks, but it will not determine them for you.  In fact, it won't determine any routing.  With that said, if you put NAT C in the flight plan, it will recognize it and load the waypoints.  It will also calculate ETOPS entry/exit points as well as ETPs.

 

It is most certainly not PFPX, but I must admire it's depth for a free to use product.

Eric Szczesniak

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You can adjust your ZFW, although I'm not convinced how accurate the fuel burn adjustment is as a result...it does adjust based on your weight, but it ends up being 1-200 lbs per ton on the NGX which seems a bit low.  I

 

Cool. They mustve recently just added that, because before it was just a pax weight. not even cargo. 

 

Agreed for a free product its certainly functional. Just not complete like pfpx. Ive seen the sample flightplan. My gosh is it ever in depth. Having a proper OFP for a long haul in particular is important. Flightsimsoft dropped the ball on this one by procrastinating so long wanting absolute perfection when they couldve made sales, but good on simbrief to come in and offer an decent alternative.

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Cool. They mustve recently just added that, because before it was just a pax weight. not even cargo.

 

It was not there in the first public unveiling, but was quickly added.  I think only 2-3 days later.  I don't know how much Flightsimsoft dropped the ball...it seems the type of people who'd pay $50-60 for a flight/dispatch planner are the same ones likely to recognize the shortcomings that are inherent in SimBrief and want PFPX anyway.

 

For the long haulers, where SimBrief is missing is lack of enroute alternates (it'll do ETOPS alternates, but not overland), routes to alternates, fuel planning based only on Canadian regulations (30 vs 45 minutes of holding, etc.) and it does not do redispatch planning.

Eric Szczesniak

The downloads page has been up for days.

The downloads page has been up for days.

Ops!

 

Didn't know. I was hoping that maybe tomorrow I would be having fun with it :(

Alexis Mefano

I have been anxiously awaiting this add-on as a replacement for my Nomissoft Flight Operations Center. FOC was  a very complete flight planner and dispatcher software tool. It came  with a very long  learning curve and  limited aircraft data and nav updates.  This looks to be a very good tool.

 

Bob

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From what everyone had read, is it looking like PFPX needs to be on the same computer that your third party weather program and fsx is on? I want to download and put this on a non-networked laptop.

 

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Eric 

 

 

I'm honestly surprised that so many people are up-in-arms about PFPX.  For those of us that have been in the flight sim community for any amount of time (which is practically everyone here) have more than likely already purchased one or multiple payware products to do everything that PFPX has to offer.  PFPX isn't doing anything that other payware providers (and some freeware) hasn't already done.  They're just reinventing the wheel.... and charging 50 EUR for it.

 

 


PFPX isn't doing anything that other payware providers (and some freeware) hasn't already done.

 

Well this is it:  as I already own FC9, which does all of these things, I have no pressing need for this product in question.

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I'm honestly surprised that so many people are up-in-arms about PFPX. For those of us that have been in the flight sim community for any amount of time (which is practically everyone here) have more than likely already purchased one or multiple payware products to do everything that PFPX has to offer. PFPX isn't doing anything that other payware providers (and some freeware) hasn't already done. They're just reinventing the wheel.... and charging 50 EUR for it.

You obviously haven't seen it in action. I watched it being used in AoA videos and it is fantastic. That's the point. You said multiple payware to do what PFPX Does. Most of which is inadequate and old now. Rebuild was great for its time. But even then you have to use different software's and 5 other websites to get everything setup. This is an all in one. Take a look at one of their sample output flightplans. It really is an exciting product and sorely needed.

CYVR LSZH 

I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS  z690 ROG STRIX Gaming  RTX 4080 Super, 

You obviously haven't seen it in action. I watched it being used in AoA videos and it is fantastic. That's the point. You said multiple payware to do what PFPX Does. Most of which is inadequate and old now. Rebuild was great for its time. But even then you have to use different software's and 5 other websites to get everything setup. This is an all in one. Take a look at one of their sample output flightplans. It really is an exciting product and sorely needed.

 

Most are out of date?  Flight planning is flight planning.  As long as you keep your NavData up to date than it is all going to spit out the same thing.  Even further to that point, a lot of the more serious simmers that are going to spend that kind of money on PFPX use real world routes anyway.  Additionally, TOPCAT and third-party weather products will still require to be run separate from PFPX.  If you want to pay 50 EUR for the convenience of not having to open a website when doing flight planning than that is certainly your business, but it still doesn't change the fact that PFPX isn't offering anything that hasn't already existed for a good amount of time now.

 

I personally have used FSBuild, TOPCAT and ActiveSky 2012 for years to do all my planning.  It gives me all the weather I want, auto-generated or pre-built flightplans, dispatch sheets, time, distance and fuel remaining over each waypoint, exportable to any add-on, etc.

 

 

Latest news is, that the release date would be 28.8.2013.

 

That's a bit of a shame if it turns out to be true.  They very much seemed to be gearing up for release this week.

Eric Szczesniak

Same here. Disappointed I won't be able to enjoy this weekend with PFPX. But I guess after years of delay, we can't complain about one week!

Alexis Mefano

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