If the developer gives a release date they get hammered for a date, if they give a date and miss, they get hammered for being late.

 

you forgot developer meets release date and product doesn't meet expectations they get hammered. we gotta remember a lot of developers aren't full time and do this on the side and that it's a hobby based on a community.

If the developer gives a release date they get hammered for a date, if they give a date and miss, they get hammered for being late.

 

Fair enough, but for me (at least) that's kind of beside the point. I honestly don't care that they're not meeting their promised release schedule. I'm concerned that based on how they seem to be approaching this project they will simply never release it, because rather than picking a point to call it feature complete and fixing any bugs they find, they keep adding new things. That's potentially a never-ending process, and sadly it increasingly appears that it really is turning into just that for PFPX.

 

I can see how they fell into this trap, because they're perfectionists and it's a complex piece of software, but they really need to break out of it.

 

James

I haven't paid a dime to FlightSimSoft so they don't owe me anything

 

Some of us have paid for the TOPCAT. All things TOPCAT are put on hold until PFPX is released. The developer hasn't even posted on the support forum for over 6 months (IIRC).

you forgot developer meets release date and product doesn't meet expectations they get hammered. we gotta remember a lot of developers aren't full time and do this on the side and that it's a hobby based on a community.

 

Good point.

Seems like the light is well and truly on at the end of the tunnel.

 

http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/68662-preview-pfpx-professional-flight-planner-x/

Not a matter of being stressed or angry. The point is when you have serious simulation aircraft like PMDG, or even similar aircraft, you like to do things properly. Most of us are after "as real as it gets" scenario. And this means proper flight planning.

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Airline pilots doesn't do flightplanning like that. Their dispatch office does. The pilots simply verify the data they get from dispatch. So doing it yourself is not "as real as it gets" (god, I hate that term, so lame lol)

 

 

Airline pilots doesn't do flightplanning like that. Their dispatch office does. The pilots simply verify the data they get from dispatch. So doing it yourself is not "as real as it gets" (god, I hate that term, so lame lol)

 

LOL. Thanks. I'm not 12. I did work on the ramp for years and saw the paperwork firsthand. I don't know about you but I'm the only one around here doing my flying, my ATC, my ramp loading, my maintenance, and fuel loading.

The flight planning from PFPX is as close to reality as we will see so doing it that way is real. Sorry if I didn't clarify. I am the dispatch office just as you are. Unless you have staff do it for you.

Not a matter of being stressed or angry. The point is when you have serious simulation aircraft like PMDG, or even similar aircraft, you like to do things properly. Most of us are after "as real as it gets" scenario. And this means proper flight planning.

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Airline pilots doesn't do flightplanning like that. Their dispatch office does. The pilots simply verify the data they get from dispatch. So doing it yourself is not "as real as it gets" (god, I hate that term, so lame lol)

They also have 2 (or more) pilots on the flightdeck. "As real as it gets" means "as real as it can be on a home computer using game controllers, a keyboard, and a mouse."

Try not being so condescending.

 

Written by me using my Galaxy and Tapatalk 2

 

 

Seems like the light is well and truly on at the end of the tunnel.

 

http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/68662-preview-pfpx-professional-flight-planner-x/

 

"The product will be released shortly."

 

Jeez not again...

At least now we know that the price to be about 50 EUR. I was afraid it would end up around 100 EUR mark.

"The product will be released shortly."

 

Jeez not again...

 

Lol

 

Under the 50 EUR mark seems quite reasonable for a tool that will essentially compress almost every aspect of flight planning into one neat tool.

 

 

Under the 50 EUR mark seems quite reasonable for a tool that will essentially compress almost every aspect of flight planning into one neat tool.

 

+1

 

And Aerosoft backing should help the process of pushing this through hopefully. 

From the PFPX forum: "Beta test released 9.9.7b today."

 

Oh brother, here they go again.

 

I have a feeling 0.9.9.9.1 is right around the corner. For FlightSimSoft, of course, "right around the corner" means sometime before the end of the Cenozoic Era.

I bought a licence for TOPCAT years ago, used it but soon came to the conclusion that the developer had made no effort to provide much needed

config files for the many new aircraft and variants that were appearing in FS9 and FSX. Even some of the config files that came with the program

were not very accurate. When I asked why some of these configs were not being created the reply was that these config files were difficult and that

they didn't possess the required data. Must admit I was disappointed by their reply and slowly but surely found other ways of calculating weight

and balance for various aircraft. I could see they had no interest in keeping TOPCAT updated and in reality it has been dead for some time.

When they announced PFPX I had to laugh..... So now they were promising a much more advanced piece of software but couldn't/didn't update config files

in TOPCAT for years. Shows you how much they cared about their existing customers. Don't hold your breath and be prepared to be disappointed.

If the developers of PFPX are indeed professional airline pilots, then the OCD of perfection is engrained in their blood. 

 

In the developers world, this need for perfection, as Ryan said, can translate into "feature creep" and "1% to go forever". 

 

In the world of professional airline pilots, the OCD of perfection translates into fewer dead people.

 

As for TOPCAT, I believe they soon realized they were not going to be able to supply the cfg files for many of the popular aircraft, and simply abandoned the project, instead of attempting to supply less than perfect information.  Not the best plan for those of us who shelled out the cash for the product.

 

When this product is released, I believe I'll wait a good while to purchase, only after seeing many reviews and letting time dampen the hype.