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Service Based Failures

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Hello folks!

 

It's been a while, but I'm also anticipating on the T7's release in silence! (I bet there's more support than we know!)

 

Not quite sure if this is the right place to ask questions, but;

 

As I've understood correctly, the 777 will have service based failures just like the 737NGX. Something I've read over the past months regarding these failures is that they take very long to actually occur. Airliners are flying a lot, because they don't make money on the ground. But for most of us (I guess), we can't fly these machines for 20h a day. Can we speed up these service based failures? Also, will this be related to one livery?

 

I'm curious, as I rather love the failures or consequences you don't see coming. (No, not the engine failures on take-off haha)

 

Thanks & Kind Regards,

 

Bas

 

P.S. Apologies if this information is already avail.

Kind Regards, -Bas Tolsma

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Ive asked this before and kind of got laughed at. I have never seen one failure in the NGX and I probably have a hundred hours in it, given I have done several reinstalls of FSX and OSs without dragging over the original .ini. I would like my 777 to have a couple hundred hours on it when I buy it.

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Ive asked this before and kind of got laughed at. I have never seen one failure in the NGX and I probably have a hundred hours in it, given I have done several reinstalls of FSX and OSs without dragging over the original .ini. I would like my 777 to have a couple hundred hours on it when I buy it.

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Hi, 

 

I agree with what has been said above. It could be great to manually set a number of hours of flight for a said plane so we can experiment some unexpected failures. I have the same problem, even if I fly a lot with the NGX, the flight hours are not cumulated between the different liveries. One solution is to fly with only one aircraft but... even that it's difficult to get enough flight time to get some failures.

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This question first came up quite some time ago, maybe even a year.

 

The suggestion wasn't to manually set the hours as such, but to have a multiplier that would accelerate the wear to a factor of your choice.

 

I think I remember Tabs commenting on the topic saying they'd look into it, but don't know if they implemented it.

 

Tabs, are you out there and can you comment?!

Jordan Forrest

I have gotten a few slight failures here and there the key is to fly the same livery then after even like 2 or 3 flights I started getting wheel well fires and autopilot failures

Weston Hall

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I have gotten a few slight failures here and there the key is to fly the same livery then after even like 2 or 3 flights I started getting wheel well fires and autopilot failures

 

 

At one point all I flew was the WN 700 and had 140 hours on it with no failures.  

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after even like 2 or 3 flights I started getting wheel well fires

 

I'm guessing you have "random failures" on and not "service based failures", otherwise perhaps you ought to check your brake usage during taxi, as you shouldn't be lighting up your tires after 2-3 flights at the service-based frequency!

Brandon Hathaway

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I guess you just got to get lucky

I do use my brakes a lot but I get other non brake related failures too like auto flight and I do have service based on not random failures It may be the repaint I am using all I use is a southwest -700

Weston Hall

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Wheel Well Fires aren't exactly service based, though...

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Hi,

 

I guess you just got to get lucky

I do use my brakes a lot but I get other non brake related failures too like auto flight and I do have service based on not random failures It may be the repaint I am using all I use is a southwest -700

Autopilot failures of either channel can also occur if you move the control colum with too much force while the autopilot is engaged. This can happen by spikes of your controlls or by manually moving them. Again, this is not a service based failure.

John Rubens
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The request is in our tracking system but my guess would be that it won't make the initial release (assuming it's even feasible at all), sorry. Major things don't fail very often on modern jets like these - just a fact.

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Hi,

 

I keep an eye on the Aviation Heralds and I maybe wrong but I have the feeling that failures occur everyday.

Fortunately, they don't usually lead to crash, but there are lots of RTOs, and emergency landings due to engines or landing gears failures for instance, amongst others.

Ok, it doesn't happen on only one aircraft and the feeling must be due to the huge number of aircrafts flying in the world...^^

And failures occur even in companies with good reputation not only crapy companies from lost parts of the world. Maybe can't they considered as service based failures but random ones?

I am now wondering if I shouldn't rather choose random...

But anyway, no matter what is decided for the B777, it won't prevent me from taking her for a ride and fully enjoy it!^^

Romain Roux

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The request is in our tracking system but my guess would be that it won't make the initial release (assuming it's even feasible at all), sorry. Major things don't fail very often on modern jets like these - just a fact.

 

Wait, is the 777 coming with service based failures? If it is, why wouldn't having some sort of multiplier to make them more common not be feasible (I'm not saying easy, just feasible)?

 

I understand (certainly major) failures aren't common, but personally I'll struggle (and I'm sure I won't be the only one) to rack up the kind of hours required to ever trigger a service based failure otherwise; which would be a real shame given the effort you guys put in to create it in the first place!

Jordan Forrest

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Gents-

 

We already added a feature that will give you a multiplier effect on service based failures.  It essentially works to more rapidly increase the amount of time you are putting on the airplane by a factor of, say, 2x, 4x, 8x, etc....

 

There is no plan to allow you to manually make the airplane "a certain age" however- as this wouldn't really do much for you anyway. 

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