July 24, 201312 yr I am sure you wouldn't see a difference, I know I don't. I don't see a negative effect either, but still, I think there is no need for it at all. I will take advise though from this thread and take AM out of my config though. I never really say a difference using it, but didn't pay attention to the texture load with it on or off either. Either way, I am more of a purist when it comes to my fsx.cfg....the less the better I think. That is just my 2 cents. William Sequeira
July 24, 201312 yr Commercial Member It scores less because of the Radeon 6990. I think Radeon 6990 is quite equal to GTX 670 even though FSX likes Nvidia cards more, FSX is heavily CPU dependent anyway and it doesn't really make that much of a difference if you run for example GTX 550 or GTX 590. If that thing could really be used to compare FSX performance on different systems it should definitely rank my 4.4ghz system way better than the other one with 3.10ghz even if I had much worse graphics card.
July 24, 201312 yr You guys did an excellent job inspecting his fsx.cfg. With that being said. I have been running mine with old radius set to 8.5 a majority of the time, even in FTX regions and airports and I get a pretty consistent fps of 30fps running at 2560x1600 on a 30" monitor. My textures are set to 4096 and I have UT2 traffic at 100%, my sliders in FSX are set according to the FTX recommendations. I have FS Global Ultimate for meshes and it recommends you to set the lod radius to 8.5 which is how I got that number in the first place. I am using 2048 cloud textures in REX and OpusFSX for weather. So I think I'm pushing FSX pretty hard and yet my frame rates are surprisingly good with these insane settings. But I'd like to do some more tweaking on my end to see if I can make it better. I usually have to go in and change my lod radius back down to 4.5 when flying to and from extremely heavy urban areas such as KLAX or KJFK. Since I have quite a lot of add ons in those regions. If not I'll start to hear FSX "ding" noises in the background and shortly after that OOM. So you guys think I should keep my textures at 2048 then instead of 4096? Not sure if you'd be able to tell a difference on a 30" monitor at 2560x1600. Nice bit of Add-ons sir, and even the more so on that monitor- better PPI! One thing with respects to the high LOD and HD textures: Video card drivers settings have to match and should be listed or there is no point i.e; Highest Quality texture-Aniso filtering and negative unclamped LOD Bias of atleast -0.1 or 0.3 etc etc Without these we just wont see what has improved. how about the mipbias tweak? that does indeed make everything crispier. can someone shed light on this setting? I just read in the previous page that it is outdated. Yep, Has to be done at the driver level. FSX+ 3DS Max, CS5.5 4790K @ 4.8K Asrock Xt3 - 16GB 1866 CL-9 - NV 1070 GTX - 240GB Intel SSD - 2TB Barracuda - Win10-64 Near Silent Noctua D-14 3-Fans - Two - NFA-15cm and - One NFA-14cm All @ 700 rpm - Bitfenix Shinobi Case - (Non Delided CPU)
July 24, 201312 yr Author Oh I'm using NVIDIA 320.49 drivers, and my specs are under "MY PC". I have Anisoptric setting enabled in FSX and AA controlled through NVIDIA Inspector. I will have to post my settings for you guys to see when I get back. But I'm surprised at how well my FSX runs even with a fairly large amount of add-ons I have. This is the best it has ever ran for me. ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU
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July 24, 201312 yr Yep, Has to be done at the driver level. mmm, I clearly see a difference by using mipbias either in display.cfg with proper card entries or in fsx.cfg
July 24, 201312 yr Author Okay here's my current settings: This is my fsx.cfg [GRAPHICS] AC_SELF_SHADOW=0 AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1 AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=0 ALLOW_SHADER_30=1 COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1 D3D10=0 EFFECTS_QUALITY=2 GROUND_SHADOWS=0 HIGHMEMFIX=1 IMAGE_QUALITY=0 LANDING_LIGHTS=1 MultiSampleQuality=8 MultiSamplesPerPixel=4 NUM_LIGHTS=8 See_Self=1 TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096 TEXTURE_QUALITY=3 Text_Scroll=1 SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693500672 SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693500672 [TrafficManager] AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=0 AirlineDensity=0 FreewayDensity=10 GADensity=0 IFROnly=0 LeisureBoatsDensity=10 ShipsAndFerriesDensity=10 [REALISM] AllowEngineDamage=False AutoCoord=False AutoTrim=False CrashDetection=False CrashTolerance=0.000000 CrashWithDyn=False GEffect=False General=0.000000 GyroDrift=False GyroEffect=0.000000 ManualLights=False PFactor=0.000000 RealMixture=False StressDamage=False Torque=0.000000 TrueAirspeed=False UnlimitedFuel=True [Weather] AdjustForMagVarInDialog=1 CLOUD_COVERAGE_DENSITY=5 CLOUD_DRAW_DISTANCE=3 DETAILED_CLOUDS=1 DisableTurbulence=0 DownloadWindsAloft=0 DynamicWeather=0 MaxGustRampSpeed=200 MaxGustTime=500 MaxVarRampSpeed=75 MaxVarTime=50 MinGustRampSpeed=1 MinGustTime=10 MinVarRampSpeed=10 MinVarTime=5 THERMAL_VISUALS=0 TurbulenceScale=1.000000 WeatherGraphDataInDialog=0 WeatherServerAddress=fs2k.zone.com WeatherServerPort=80 WindshieldPrecipitationEffects=1 [Misc] Com_Rate=7 [Main] DisablePreload=1 FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.10 HideInfoText=0 HideMenuFullscreen=0 HideMenuNormal=0 Location=366,37,2012,1073,\\.\DISPLAY1 Maximized=1 SimObjectPaths.0=SimObjects\Airplanes SimObjectPaths.1=SimObjects\Rotorcraft SimObjectPaths.2=SimObjects\GroundVehicles SimObjectPaths.3=SimObjects\Boats SimObjectPaths.4=SimObjects\Animals SimObjectPaths.5=SimObjects\Misc User Objects=Airplane, Helicopter but may result in stuttering: Lower than 0.1 may give blurring of ground textures when flying fast at low level.=0 ProcSpeed=10308 PerfBucket=7 SimObjectPaths.6=SimObjects\UT2 Aircraft [SIM] SYSCLOCK=1 [DISPLAY.Device.NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680.0] Anisotropic=1 Mode=2560x1600x32 [Display] ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64 ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 BLOOM_EFFECTS=0 ChangeTime=4.000000 InfoBrakesEnable=True InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255 InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255 InfoOverspeedEnable=True InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True InfoPauseEnable=True InfoSlewEnable=True InfoStallEnable=True InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0 InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0 NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64 NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 RUNWAY_LIGHTS_APPROACH_SCALAR=0.75 RUNWAY_LIGHTS_STROBE_SCALAR=0.75 RUNWAY_LIGHTS_SURFACE_SCALAR=0.80 RUNWAY_LIGHTS_VASI_SCALAR=0.6 SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1 TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=120 TextureMaxLoad=12 TransitionTime=4.000000 UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30 WideViewAspect=True [JOBSCHEDULER] AffinityMask=84 [SlewTextInfo.3] AirSpeed=1,5 Altitude=1,3 FrameRate=2,1 Heading=1,4 Latitude=1,1 LockedFrameRate=2,2 Longitude=1,2 [PANELS] DEFAULT_VIEW=1 IMAGE_QUALITY=1 PANEL_MASKING=1 PANEL_OPACITY=100 PANEL_STRETCHING=1 QUICKTIPS=0 UNITS_OF_MEASURE=0 [STARTUP] DEMO=0 LoadWindow=1 SHOW_OPENING_SCREEN=1 STARTUP_DEMO=0 [SlewTextInfo.2] FrameRate=1,1 LockedFrameRate=1,2 [TERRAIN] AUTOGEN_DENSITY=2 DETAIL_TEXTURE=1 LOD_RADIUS=8.500000 MESH_COMPLEXITY=100 MESH_RESOLUTION=24 SWAP_WAIT_TIMEOUT=2 TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29 WATER_EFFECTS=4 [SCENERY] DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1 IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5 LENSFLARE=0 MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=3 SmallPartRejectRadius=4.0 And here's my nvidia inspector settings: Please let me know if there's any settings I can change to improve my performance. Thanks. ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU
July 24, 201312 yr It scores less because of the Radeon 6990.There is no way FSX can determine anything meaningful for the GPU at any time: at what point it performs some fill rate tests or something similar to calculate the actual rendering performance? Not at any point. There aren't also any updated data base tables, where there would be some relevant data what kind of power some GPU holds relating to some other option, which would be used to make up part of the value for procspeed. Same goes practically with CPUs. FSX can fetch from OS some clock speed data and possibly information about the amount of cores. It has no relevant information what is the clock-to-clock performance, for example, of something relatively new processor type compared to some earlier architectures which were common on FSX release or even at the time of its latest patch. Here also, it can use just some very basic information through OS, to determine some value it throws to that .cfg variable. All in all, main problem is that FSX doesn't perform any kind of reasonable benchmark test to determine a value that would have some practical use everytime a new generation of GPUs and CPUs are in use. It can use some basic information through OS, but that really tells nothing.
July 24, 201312 yr mmm, I clearly see a difference by using mipbias either in display.cfg with proper card entries or in fsx.cfg Pretty sure it wont do a thing without Negative LOD being set in the driver, its a two part process. FSX+ 3DS Max, CS5.5 4790K @ 4.8K Asrock Xt3 - 16GB 1866 CL-9 - NV 1070 GTX - 240GB Intel SSD - 2TB Barracuda - Win10-64 Near Silent Noctua D-14 3-Fans - Two - NFA-15cm and - One NFA-14cm All @ 700 rpm - Bitfenix Shinobi Case - (Non Delided CPU)
July 24, 201312 yr Hey Jim, so you don't use the Affinity Mask tweak in your cfg file why ? From my understanding of the tweak, it's 14 or 84 depending on whether HyperThreading (HT) is on or off on a quad core CPU. I do not use the "tweak" on my modern system. Best regards, Jim Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
July 24, 201312 yr I think Radeon 6990 is quite equal to GTX 670 even though FSX likes Nvidia cards more, FSX is heavily CPU dependent anyway and it doesn't really make that much of a difference if you run for example GTX 550 or GTX 590. Here's the rating on both, and yes - I don't use the AM as well. It has never made one iota of difference. i7 [email protected] | 32GB RAM | EVGA RTX 3080Ti | Maximus Hero VII | 512GB 860 Pro | 512GB 850 Pro | 256GB 840 Pro | 2TB 860 QVO | 1TB 870 EVO | Seagate 3TB Cloud | EVGA 1000 GQ | Win10 Pro | EK Custom water cooling.
July 24, 201312 yr About HT. Many years ago Nick Needham and a lot of simmers performed benchmark tests with FSX, me included, and it didn't take much effort to discover that enabling had no positive effect on FSX performance at all. On the contrary. HT will increase CPU temps and you'll need to downclock your OC. HT enablded and increased performance? No, no, no. Placebo effect :rolleyes: You'll find Nick's updated guide on hardware, OS setup and FSX here: http://www.simforums.com/forums/the-fsx-computer-system-the-bible-by-nickn_topic46211.html Regarding the LOD_RADIUS setting I would expect FSX to use the default or max setting if any value greater than max value would be found in the config file. Would be very easy to test, but since I gave up simming a couple of years, I leave the scientific testing up to you guys. :wink:
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July 24, 201312 yr About HT. Many years ago Nick Needham and a lot of simmers performed benchmark tests with FSX, me included, and it didn't take much effort to discover that enabling had no positive effect on FSX performance at all. On the contrary. HT will increase CPU temps and you'll need to downclock your OC. HT enablded and increased performance? No, no, no. Placebo effect :rolleyes: You'll find Nick's updated guide on hardware, OS setup and FSX here: http://www.simforums.com/forums/the-fsx-computer-system-the-bible-by-nickn_topic46211.html Regarding the LOD_RADIUS setting I would expect FSX to use the default or max setting if any value greater than max value would be found in the config file. Would be very easy to test, but since I gave up simming a couple of years, I leave the scientific testing up to you guys. :wink: Yeah for many old procs, sure. HT enabled on my Haswell and it makes toast either way but is plenty stable and of course FSX never has made use of hyper-threading. As for LOD settings, Higher than in-game were discovered and proven here many a moon ago and still hold true today unless there has been a rewrite of FSX.EXE you can share with us... FSX+ 3DS Max, CS5.5 4790K @ 4.8K Asrock Xt3 - 16GB 1866 CL-9 - NV 1070 GTX - 240GB Intel SSD - 2TB Barracuda - Win10-64 Near Silent Noctua D-14 3-Fans - Two - NFA-15cm and - One NFA-14cm All @ 700 rpm - Bitfenix Shinobi Case - (Non Delided CPU)
July 24, 201312 yr Author Yeah for many old procs, sure. HT enabled on my Haswell and it makes toast either way but is plenty stable and of course FSX never has made use of hyper-threading. As for LOD settings, Higher than in-game were discovered and proven here many a moon ago and still hold true today unless there has been a rewrite of FSX.EXE you can share with us... Which haswell processor are you running and did you over clock it at all? ASUS ROG Maximus Hero XII ▪︎ Intel i9-10900K ▪︎ NVIDIA RTX 3090 FE ▪︎ 64GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro ▪︎ Windows 10 Pro (21H1) ▪︎ Samsung 970 EVO Pro 1TB NVME SSD (OS Drive) ▪︎ Samsung 860 EVO 2TB SATA SSD ▪︎ Seagate 4TB SATA HDD ▪︎ Corsair RMx 850W PSU
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