I see what you're trying to do here, but I won't be playing along much.

 

The biggest thing people don't realize, is that we (along with most freeware 'vendors') create what we want, no matter what others want. If we made simply what 'most' want, we would never release anything, because there would be no motivation to finish any project.

 

You're somewhat right - there have been a few 737NG-series released, even as freeware. But they are all well-outdated. To say (as you put it) 'nothing new,' is not something I'd agree with.

 

Let me answer specifically why not the 737-300 thru -500. For myself, personally, I am involved with a payware group creating that 737 range for FSX, and working on another project for the same aircraft series would violate my obligations to that FSX group. The other big reason for me why I wouldn't get involved with a 737 'new generation' project for FS9 is because I don't believe the 50North model can be beaten in terms of overall accuracy. That model is about as spot-on as you can get. The other freeware 737NG's leave a lot out there to be improved upon, however. And I personally know each of the developers of the two, main aforementioned models being discussed here, and they would both agree with that statement. Heck, one of them is the modeler of this new TDS 737.

 

Some of the other arguments I've seen puts us up against iFly and PMDG - two payware developers. Not everyone has the capability to purchase payware add-ons. Even so, we do not produce aircraft to compete with other developers. Back to step 1, we make what we want to. Users simply have another choice of which they would like to download. I'm not going to make comparisons with our model versus others' because that would be flat-out disrespectful, but I will say that I am very pleased with what our 737 has become.

 

737s are extremely popular aircraft. I'm sure a few people will get some entertainment out of our model. If that person isn't you, then so be it, won't affect us in the slightest bit. But to say our efforts are 'wasted,' is simply rude and untrue. You mention you want a 777 - if there is any add-on that has been done MORE than the 737NG, it would probably be that one (or a 767). Project Opensky/SkySpirit (updated) created a full, freeware 777 series with a very nice virtual cockpit. It may not come with an FMC, but I'm sure there are free/cheap ones out there that can be added to function with the aircraft.

 

Again, we create what we want to create, and we are thankful to be able to share those developments with those that choose to use them. We don't aim to compete with any other products, companies or groups, and we certainly don't expect anybody to kiss the ground we walk on. However, disrespectful and comments just to be negative, do not help. If there is a legitimate flaw with something we create, we will happily continue to look and improve the aesthetics of our add-ons. Constructive criticism is always welcomed.

AMEN Kyle....Just keep doing what YOU all want to do. You make them...WE, the appreciative ones will fly them. Those that complain can go and take their free time and make freeware. Amazed at the responses and disrespect to those who support this hobby with freeware. I have wishes, sure, but in time they will come. Seems like the phrase I used with my daughter a few years ago is in order for SevenFour_Fan, "You get what you get. Be happy that with that."

I think what "7-4 Fan" failes to realize is that there is something exciting and uniquely different about this project.  The texture details are supurb on the screenshots I've seen on the facebook pages thus far.  The 737 is not a new aircraft, but the artisic approach to texture display is.

 

I think it's certainly worth checking out, and since 737's are so ubiquitous around the world anyway... you can never have too many in your collection.

 

Good luck with the project.

 

--  John

Or just use the perfectly good iFly as is and leave another wasted project as this one alone?

 

Mark.

 

This is anything but a wasted project, with the IFly 737 VC or the freeware Alejandro Rojas from FSND Upgraded 737 VC this plane will be better than some payware out there. Hiroshi Igami and Kyle Schurb are some of the best in the business and that includes payware developers. I have tremendous respect for them and the quality of their work, you should as well. If you are looking for a classic 737 look at Enigma Simulations, not sure if it will be payware or freeware but it looks awesome to say the least! This 737NGv2 will be THE freeware 737 to have, hands down, and many at MSFlights.net will be using our customized version edited by myself with the permission given by Kyle and Hiroshi for limited distribution, all rights reserved. Your comment was completely unfounded and is quite derogatory, while I am certainly not an admin here, I am quite sure that a warning would be given if an admin was called in to moderate, if you have an issue with the aircraft please bring it forth in a more constructive manner.

 

Addendum: to your most recent posts, if you are not interested in another 737 payware or freeware, fine that is your call, and I as well as many others understand it. Proper feedback in this case would be wishing them luck and if you wanted offer what assistance you can to help make their product better so that the flightsim community as a whole is better for it, don't just discourage people from attempting something even if many others have succeeded with the same aircraft.

Well anyway.....

 

Fine-tuning the flight dynamics and we are set for release!
 

 

Awesome, Kyle! Thanks to you and the TDS Team for all your hard work!

 

Alan

....... and we are set for release!

 

The crowds gather and excitement builds ......

 

Pete.

We have released the aircraft, I have uploaded the base package (9 different models in total) along with the paint kit and 4 liveries to the library, hopefully it will be updated and approved soon. Some other paints are working their way into the library as well.

We have released the aircraft

 

And I've just merged it with the iFly panel. It. Simply. Rocks :biggrin: I had to move the empty CG 15ft forward, but handling doesn't seem to be affected using iFly FDE, thanks a lot for your hard work.

 

I have two questions:

1) Will the other versions be modeled? (specially the -800 and the -900ER)

2) In the base pack I find various model codes, but I can't figure them out. Which code means which variation? (winglets/eyebrows/anything else)

And I've just merged it with the iFly panel. It. Simply. Rocks :biggrin: I had to move the empty CG 15ft forward, but handling doesn't seem to be affected using iFly FDE, thanks a lot for your hard work.

 

I have two questions:

1) Will the other versions be modeled? (specially the -800 and the -900ER)

2) In the base pack I find various model codes, but I can't figure them out. Which code means which variation? (winglets/eyebrows/anything else)

 

1.) Yes

2.) --E ... Eyebrow

--W1 ...Winglet which has 1 cutout for nav/strobes

--W2 ...Winglet which has cut out for nav/strobes each

--W3 ... Scimitar split winglet

--P1 ... PIP update model (Red beacon and main gear bay's edge is round)

 

Also there are 2 engine types, CFM56-7B and 7BE.

 

So there are:

 

CFM56-7B

CFM56-7B--E

CFM56-7B--W1

CFM56-7B--EW1

CFM56-7B--W2

CFM56-7B--EW2

CFM56-7B--W3

CFM56-7B--P1W2

CFM56-7BE--P1W2

Downloading her as we speak... Thanks again, Kyle!

 

The 'Rumor Mill' is abuzz with 411 about an 'updated FDE' that's apparently available on FB... any chance that FDE will make the File Libraries at the FS Sites (including here)?

 

Pretty good looking model... thank you TDS!

 

I find it flies a little nose high.

 

Also, I tried the panel linked by Kyle above.

Not knowing any better, I copied over the 3 panel subfolders, and added 

Window05=Debug

Window06=Utility

in panel.cfg

I also added the 2 [VCockpit01] sections to pick up xml gauges, but find a ctd if I switch to VC view.

 

Anyone seen this? or have a fix?

 

EDIT: VC CTD with the stock panel too, I find.

Thank you for the new plane, it looks great!

 

Question: On flightsim there are 2 files TDS Boeing 737-700ER Flight Dynamics (tds737-700er_fs9_fde_reva.zip and TDS Boeing 737-700 Flight Dynamics Update (tds737-7_fs9_fde_reva.zip) are these official TDS releases??

 

Here are the descriptions of the files,

 

TDS Boeing 737-700ER Flight Dynamics: FS2004 TDS Boeing 737-700ER Flight Dynamics. This FDE is for those who want their TDS 737-700 as a BBJ or -700ER. By Nick Wilkinson and David Biggar.

 

TDS Boeing 737-700 Flight Dynamics Update: FS2004 TDS Boeing 737-700 Flight Dynamics Update. TDS B737-700 FDE fix. This FDE corrects an "Aircraft Overstressed" error as well as the lighting effects on some models. By Nick Wilkinson and David Biggar.

Can someone tell me what model to use for the Delta and Southwest paints?? the model= line is blank on those paints but the basepack has 9 choices and none of the are just model. 

Ok I am totally confused now. I was going to put the paints (Southwest, Delta, and Sun Country) in the base pack to save on folder space, but I did not know what model to use. So instead I just put the whole Southwest folder (and the other 2) in my FS9 aircraft folder but in spot view the plane the plane has no wings.

 

Never mind, I got it working now. I did not know you can not change the title= line.

Never mind, I got it working now. I did not know you can not change the title= line.

Have to read the aircraft.cfg, there's a certain block of text that can't be deleted. You can change the title line so long as that block of text isn't deleted.