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Magestic Dash 8 any good?

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Just bought it yesterday, install was very easy. Didn't read the manual at all but managed engine start, takeoff, a circuit and landing. Initial impressions are very good. Fps excellent, sounds are great, this is my new toy!

 

Problems so far. Constant yaw to left, I read why it happens, I might disable this in the config.

 

Nav1 does not see any tuned vor in range. Sure this is just my error and not set up correctly.

 

Need to learn pushback sequence too.

 

Need to learn why those spoiler only go down when applying power on takeoff...can you tell I have not read the manual!

 

Engine start worked but need to look for the exact procedure in the manual or online.

 

I love NGX but prefer regional or ga so I might skip the 777 and learn this until the DC6 or the duke update is out.

-Iain Watson-

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is it possible to select music of my own choice? I do like Bach's air from his 3rd suite and i believe i heard some Puccini arias as well but  i do not want that for each flight,

 

I'm sure someone has already figured out a way to substite a .wav file somewhere, correct ?

Antoine v Heck
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Constant yaw to left, I read why it happens, I might disable this in the config.

Yeah, I must admit, as much as I love my Q400, I disabled that too ..... it's just far too extreme for me.

 

Just set:-

 

YAW_DUE_TO_PROPWASH =0.0

 

in the INI file. :smile:

 With this aircraft, you must fly the aircraft right into the ground, before retarting power.

 

When i took a first look from the outside i thought something was wrong with that short nose wheel making the aircraft's nose pointing down but after comparison with photos of the real dash i realize it's supposed to be like that and for a reason.

 

when landing the dash 'into the ground' withouth flare. intuitively you think that the nose will hit the ground first but it won't. you just have to rely on the mains to always make first contact.

 

Yeah, I must admit, as much as I love my Q400, I disabled that too

 

 

That i do not understand. Is this behavior 'as real as it gets' or is it overdone in the simulation? If it is equally annoying in real life then, well it just had to be that way,

Antoine v Heck
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Ryzen 5800X3D, 32Gb DDR4 RAM@1600 Mhz, RTX3090 (24GB VRAM). 2TB SSD - VR with Quest 2 via link cable 

Although this is without doubt, a surperb addon, it's been permenantly hangard for me, making it a waste of money on my machine:-(

 

Why....?  Not because it's bad. 'cos it isn't.

 

Simply because I can't bear being locked into permenant 'Locked Spot' mode.  I hate it!

 

PS  Did the 'jumping' on the ground ever get fixed?

Windows 10 (x64) - X-Plane 11 - M/B: Asus ROG Maximus IX Hero - CPU: i7 7700k (@5.0GHz) - RAM: 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 @ 3200MHz - Video: GTX1080ti - Cooling: Custom water loop (EK 140 Revo D5 pump/res combo, EK EVO CPU block, EK XE360 Rad)

Would I like this ?

I have the PMDG NGX but to be honest havent flown it very much, been simming for about a year and stil learning and other than flying it manually I havent go into it that much yet.

 

Recently been using the Extended Otter and the QW146,  gradually learning that (I can put A to B in on the FMC!).  Is the Dash a plane you can enjoy by just jumng into or do you have to spend a few hours reading manuels first?

 

Any comments on this area apprecated, but also hoping it will be on display at the flight Sim show in Ocotober at Cosford, and even better on offer ;-) 

 

Cheers

Steve

3080rtx  on a i7 12700k with 32 Gig ddr5. 2gig Ssd

Quest 2

Windows 11

I've been flying the NGX for the last two years, and I'm looking forward to the 777X. Some fellow community memebers encouraged my to look at the Dash 8 since I'm always raving about PMDG :)

 

I finally decided to try it last weekend. I have no experience with truboprops, but wanted to fly into smaller airports.

 

I was pleasantly surprised. the tutorial helped me get the Dash 8 up and flying quickly. I used the tutorial, which is very user friendly, and I found the procedures easy to remember.

 

It's much more friendlier with FPS (I have an improvement of 5 - 7). The visulas are also very nice. Majestic Software will have a fully systems immersed version later, but the current version is great for pre flight and flight itself since it captures the right systems. Also, I have not gotten fatal CTD errors so far, compared to PMDG. In defense of PMDG, my CTDs are very rare and random.

 

Now if only I can figure out how to land more softly.  I find it difficult to flare the aircraft on landing, even when I implment trim up.  I've been getting little better each day, so I guess it just takes some getting used to.

 

I think I'm going to be happy simmer with a Dash 8 for commuter ops, an NGX for short and medium fights, and the T7 for medium and long.

LUIS LINARES

Processor: Intel Core i9 6700K 9900K (5.0 GHz Turbo) Eight Core; CPU Cooling: NXXT Kraken X62 280mm CPU Liquid Cooler; System Memory: 64GB Corsair DDR4 SDRAM @ 3200 MHz, RGB; Graphics Processor: 11GB Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, GDDR6, Primary Drive: 2TB Samsung 850 Pro Solid State Drive (SSD)

 

Simply because I can't bear being locked into permenant 'Locked Spot' mode.  I hate it!

 

I have no idea what you are talking about, can you please explain what you mean by this?

 

PS  Did the 'jumping' on the ground ever get fixed?

 

 

This is something i experienced yesterday with a 2nd test flight. an Isinbayeva 5 meter jump while at taxi speed, no laws of gravity.

 

that indeed better be fixed before releasing the rather expensive pro and training versions.

Antoine v Heck
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I have no idea what you are talking about, can you please explain what you mean by this?

 

 

Due to the way this aircraft is designed, it's not possible to have the nice smooth 'damped' panning around the aircraft.  It can only be used in 'Locked Spot' view.  Don't know how better to describe that, sorry.

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I can't bear being locked into permenant 'Locked Spot' mode.  I hate it!

 

PS  Did the 'jumping' on the ground ever get fixed?

 

Dougal's referring to the outside view here, which by being a 'locked spot' view only, means that when you move around the view with your hat switch (or view commands) the movements are sudden and jerky.      I agree, it's not the best, but it wouldn't put me off the fantastic experience in the cockpit ; after all, that's where I fly it from! :smile:

 

Yes, I can only speak for myself, but I haven't seen a single 'jumping plane' on loading since 1.007 was released.   (and I had a lot of jumping plane problems in the earlier versions).

No jumps at all here, and it is my daily flier....

William Sequeira

@Q400_Flyer yup the p-factor is pretty nasty on the real -400 (not to mention the torque roll) from what i've heard speaking with a few q-drivers...right aileron + a stomp on the right rudder immediately after leaving the ground is the norm to keep her coordinated. (It's what we get for having 10000shp driving two huge 13.5'(?) propellers @1050rpm)

"If lightning is the anger of the gods, the gods are concerned mostly with trees."

-- Lao Tse (6th Century BCE)

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@Q400_Flyer yup the p-factor is pretty nasty on the real -400 (not to mention the torque roll) from what i've heard speaking with a few q-drivers...right aileron + a stomp on the right rudder immediately after leaving the ground is the norm to keep her coordinated. (It's what we get for having 10000shp driving two huge 13.5'(?) propellers @1050rpm)

that makes me curious about how to set up optimal realism settings in FSX for this aircraft (p-factor, torque etc)

or is this plane unaffected by FSX realism settings because its engine is outside FSX?

 

As for the jumping, i unstalled the latest version yesterday (1.007) but i have not yet tried switching off the autosave option in registered FSUIPC

 

Can those of you not having the jump issue confirm that this is disactivated in yours?

Antoine v Heck
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Ryzen 5800X3D, 32Gb DDR4 RAM@1600 Mhz, RTX3090 (24GB VRAM). 2TB SSD - VR with Quest 2 via link cable 

Would I like this ?

I have the PMDG NGX but to be honest havent flown it very much, been simming for about a year and stil learning and other than flying it manually I havent go into it that much yet.

 

Recently been using the Extended Otter and the QW146,  gradually learning that (I can put A to B in on the FMC!).  Is the Dash a plane you can enjoy by just jumng into or do you have to spend a few hours reading manuels first?

 

Any comments on this area apprecated, but also hoping it will be on display at the flight Sim show in Ocotober at Cosford, and even better on offer ;-) 

 

Cheers

Steve

 

Hi Steve!

Sure You can fly it without digging to much into the manuals - but ...

The Majestic Dash 8 offers a lot, just as the NGX (which You have also mentioned) does offer a lot - and therefore both aircrafts, just as any other dedicated 3rd party add on, may only make real sense and reveal their full potential and beauty, if some time is taken into account to dig through the manuals (at least the tutorial flights) and practice flying them

... and maybe also watch some tutorial videos on the internet, read through some threads every here and there, where things like programming a detailed flightplan and much more are being discussed from various perspectives, and so on ...

 

So:

To answer Your question:

The Dash 8 can be put into the air without to much of preperation - it just requires some steps at the very beginning and then You can fly it almost with ease!

But i'd ask myself the question then if it is not a bit sad to some extent to leave that much potential aside.

Because You may miss a lot if You do not consider spending at least some serious time with the manuals, becoming familiar with the plane of choice and practicing flying with it, which - again saying - is true for any dedicated and detailed 3rd party add-on aircraft!

 

I was flying the NGX a lot since i purchased it back over a year or so and sure will continue flying it a lot in the future!

But even by now i am still learning with each and every flight!

 

The same goes out to the Majestic Dash 8!

Each flight is always a bit different than the one prior to it and so it is really worth all the time and effort that i put into all the learning stuff - by the end of the day it's very, very rewarding!

 

I can thereofore just encourage You to not give up to early but just keep on trying!

Or - if You really should find out that flying detailed airliners is not Your preffered way to fly in the sim, to simply focus on other ways of flying and other aircraft types.

As long as You enjoy it, it will be the best choice.

But purchasing a detailed aircraft such as the Dash 8 and not digging into its systems will - most likely - be only half the fun!

Only my 2 cents here though!

Cheers, Christoph

_______

 

By the way - and more generally asking now:

I don't think i really understoodd the phrasing of the topic-question...

i mean, what does this exactly mean:

 

Majestic Dash any good ?

 

Please don't get me wrong here, but what answer is there to be expected now?

... any good ...?

 

Sure it is good - very good!

But(!):

Would not it be better to ask a bit more specific?

Or check out the Majestic website and read through the various resources which are available there for free first, to gain some overview?

Or - what about checking out some videos all over the web, which are featuring Majestic's Dash 8 and show what it is capable off?

And maybe reading some reviews?

 

And - why comparing apples and oranges all the time and over and over again ...?

 

I mean - the NGX is a complete different aircraft than the Dash 8!

Just as the great A2A Spitfire, Piper Cub, P-51,

Flight 1's latest King Air,

the Real Air Duke,

PMDG's J41,

the AS Katana or the latest AS Twin Otter for instance - and a few more - are different types of planes - each and everyone wonderfully modelled for its purpose in the sim by the way!

Now all of these mentioned here right aways can not and do not need to be compared with each other as each and every one of it is unique in its characteristics and a class of its own - so again:

Why compare apples and oranges?

I mean - isn't it more about how i want to fly (IFR, VFR, long haul, short haul, Airliners, GA, Bushflying ... and/or whatsever...)

 

Anyways:

At least performancewise i can just say, that the Dash 8 runs smoothly on my system, but "tends to stutter" sometime - especially while flying turns.

The NGX may require to lower some settings, but i have no issues and troubles in regards to its performance over all either - and barely ever any noticeable stutters!

On the contruary and even when using the same settings then, the Dash 8 still tends to stutter, just as pointed out now, while the NGX does not ...

Nevertheless though:

Even if i would merely focus on the aspect of performance, i'd still have to admit that by keeping in mind how out-dated the FSX engine is, neither Majestic's Dash 8, nor PMDG's NGX are performing badly at all!

 

To sum it up:

I am happy with the Dash 8 as i am with the NGX and som e other planes in my hangar - and i'd highly recommend any detailed 3rd party plane to everyone interested in flying any kind of DIFFERENT, unqiue and superb aircraft in the sim - as long as it fits any simmers personal liking and way of flying!

Just as easy and simple as that!

But sure - only my opinion here - and as other posts here as well, only subjective.

:wink: :smile:

Cheers, Christoph

Enjoy flying and happy landings.

that makes me curious about how to set up optimal realism settings in FSX for this aircraft (p-factor, torque etc)

or is this plane unaffected by FSX realism settings because its engine is outside FSX?

 

Because the fdm is external fsx realism settings do not have any effect on it...buuuut i keep all those sliders to the right at any rate (crash tolerance is irrelevant as i disabled the crash detection because of some nuances of fsx that is rather unrealistic). Most fsx users who haven't used x-plane or flightgear would find the handling a bit challenging (particularly labding) as fsx natively does not model p-factor or torque well (plus i don't see induced lift being simulated by fsx natively at all...)

 

Xavier

"If lightning is the anger of the gods, the gods are concerned mostly with trees."

-- Lao Tse (6th Century BCE)

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