What the heck is wrong with everybody's FSX?! I've had it run on an old 2002 desktop, a crappy 2008 laptop, and on this moderate 2010 desktop. No freezes, no crashes, no OOM errors, nothing.

Haha, the law of averages means that for all the many thousands of fsx users with issues there had to be one that has had it running perfectly and here he/she is! I'll bet you'll be the only one immune to the zombie apocalypse too you lucky sod ;-)

What the heck is wrong with everybody's FSX?! I've had it run on an old 2002 desktop, a crappy 2008 laptop, and on this moderate 2010 desktop. No freezes, no crashes, no OOM errors, nothing.

 

You're probably doing something ghastly, like not running it at full max.

 

 

What the heck is wrong with everybody's FSX?! I've had it run on an old 2002 desktop, a crappy 2008 laptop, and on this moderate 2010 desktop. No freezes, no crashes, no OOM errors, nothing.

 

I am 99% sure the only difference is, that you actually realize FSX is 7 years old, with crazily made 2013 quality models and programs stuffed into it, hacked and tweaked into extremes - and accept it for what it is, instead of demanding something it was never meant to give. Like 40+ FPS in ultra maxed graphics.

What the heck is wrong with everybody's FSX?! I've had it run on an old 2002 desktop, a crappy 2008 laptop, and on this moderate 2010 desktop. No freezes, no crashes, no OOM errors, nothing.

 

If you install and fly the vanilla FSX SP2/Acceleration, you will have no problems.

 

Problems arise when you start installing add-ons.

 

And without the payware add-ons, FSX is junk.

If you install and fly the vanilla FSX SP2/Acceleration, you will have no problems.

 

Problems arise when you start installing add-ons.

 

And without the payware add-ons, FSX is junk.

+100000000000!

 

I always think it's a bit funny to some extent when people say: ... my fsx runs smoothly -  ... "My" ... - great indeed for those,  and sure:

All this here is mainly about "my opinion", "my two cents" and so on - that's no problem, but it is also nontheless a fact that it ain't very helpful for those who have issues with FSX, which, and let's face it - are apparent nowadays due to the fact that, as pointed out above, FSX is an old engine by now and becomming more and more outdated with every day that passes.

FSX still works indeed astonishingly well to a certain extent, but - and not surprisingly at all - as soon as some point is reached ... well: It just crashes.

Maybe FSX just crashes from time to time then and for some it obviously never ever seems to crash ... but again, that won't change the facts.

 

So, we now can downturn all our sliders, even go back to FSX default, reduce this, check our VAS, disable this and that scenery and so on - and then there is indeed a real very good chance that FSX won't crash - but(!) ... isn't this also becomming a bad compromise more and more.

Sure thing:

It will always require some compromise - the question which remains just is:

How far can this - or any compromis go?

In - my opinion :wink: - and these are only my two cents here now :biggrin: - FSX definitely has reached, or is at least very very close now to, a point were "compromising ain't worth it" anymore - because again:

Sure we can reduce it all, but what remains then?

And even if what remains is still sufficient, then there are still many uncertainties remaining, like:

What if a weather-update while in flight "overloads" FSX, or what if i have added a new complex scenery but forgot to "disable" it prior to a long haul flight, causing an OOM although i just flew close to but above this new scenery ... and so on ...

So: I am also one of those getting tired of it actually.

 

Ironically i seem to be one of the lucky ones barely ever experiencing OOM's.

I have set up my sim very carefully and i am happy with it.

But i am also very sad to see all the potential nowadays but being unable to take full advantage of it, simply due to FSX's limitations, which are definitely getting tighter and tighter.

 

It's like looking at a picture of art, which is partially covered by a blanket or so:

You really wish to see it in its entire beauty, but have to get away with a mere partial shadow of it all.

So, pragmatically summed up:

For technical reasons and for the sake of every flightsimmer's heart, mind and soul alike, one (or more) widely(!) and seriously supported (by end-users and developers as well) alternative flightsim-engine(s) to FSX may not just become mandatory if flightsimming should be kept alive over the next decade, but also really most appreciated by the fs-community i think - ... and only my two cents here though B)

Cheers, Christoph

Flying a private-use product (PMDG T7) in a commercial-purpose sim (Prepar3D) isn't exactly the remedy we're waiting for ...

 

OOMs:

 

- ... are mainly influenced by texture load ... but processing this texture load also influences frame rates. In order to keep my fps up, I need to turn down some sliders - those settings help to avoid an OOM. Short form: take care of your fps to enjoy less OOMs at the same time

- ... often happen when the 4 GB VAS limit is reached - but there's still a lot of eye-candy someone can put into those 4 GB

Christoph, your post sums it up beautifully.

 

Olli, you are also right about an entertainment PMDG 777 not being allowed to work in P3D not being the solution. Hence I will pay anything for one that does work i.e. a commercially licensed one! I don't care as long as I don't have to rely on fsx. What's the point of a long haul aircraft if there's a good chance that at some point during the flight fsx will crash? The longer the flight, the more opportunity for fsx to have it's fun with us!

 

Incidentally, I didn't experience OOM issues. The sounds were OOM like but the crash itself was not. I've had them before and there was no warning message this past few times. Definitely something else! But as I've said, I'm done trying to figure out what. P3D is back working really well for me so I guess a commercial PMDG would be my only real option. Oh well, you live in hope!!

Two more tips:

 

- A registered copy of FSUIPC will warn you of an impeding OOM. If you hear the sound, save your flight situation. Restart FSX and make up your mind whether you want to revert to a higher performance FSX profile (provided you defined some!).

 

- Without a registered FSUIPC save your flight on reaching your TOD: Either your arrival works without an OOM or you can restart FSX and reload your saved sitation - the FSX restart should free up some more VAS than there was available during your first approach. Additionally you can lower your graphics settings via one of your profiles.

 

BTW, I started making it a habit not only to watch my CPU/GPU temps/load during flightsimming, but also my VAS usage - only OOM so far was landing in EGLL with RW weather, FTX England and a number of UK2000 extreme airports ...

 

 

- A registered copy of FSUIPC will warn you of an impeding OOM. If you hear the sound, save your flight situation. Restart FSX and make up your mind whether you want to revert to a higher performance FSX profile (provided you defined some!).

 

Yes I have a registered copy of FSUIPC and you are correct.  Trouble is, with other addons running like RC and FSCaptain, restarting the flight becomes problematic.

Yes I have a registered copy of FSUIPC and you are correct.  Trouble is, with other addons running like RC and FSCaptain, restarting the flight becomes problematic.

 

 

RC saves simultanously (you can reload the complete situation from RC - "load *.rcd file").

 

As far as FSC is concerned - you'll lose this flight there and have to erase it from your flight log.

RC saves simultanously (you can reload the complete situation from RC - "load *.rcd file").

 

As far as FSC is concerned - you'll lose this flight there and have to erase it from your flight log.

 

Correct, although on VATSIM you are SOL.

 

These are issues and reasons why I spend alot of time on DCSW now with my A10C, very stable, 64 bit flight.

Correct, although on VATSIM you are SOL.

 

 

On VATSIM you can save on the VAS usage as far as FSX AI traffic textures are concerned ...  

 

 

I mean a specific box that only has a flight sim on it. For example, EULA's aside, you could take a PS4 or X Box One and use their power and grunt to be dedicated to flight simming. Or similar hardware. Programmed correctly maybe you could add up to 3 monitors? It would come out of the box ready to accept any of the joysticks available and you would turn it on and it wouldn't CTD as it

 

Years back I had an Amiga 2000. The graphics were way ahead of it's time. It scrolled so smoothly Charter Comm used it with a video program called Video Toaster for it's scrolling channel selection screen. The Amiga was devfeloped and built to be a dedicated flight Siming machine. It was funded by a group of Doctors soly for that purpose. If memory serves it had 9 view ports. It used Amiga DOS by Microsoft. It was programed in Lattice C which had a graphical interface for it's programing tools. No one else had that, you did it with assembly. Can't remember the CPU builder except it was a 97000. Oh, it was Motorola. Some of you remember the Commador 64. Commador bought Amiga. Gateway Computer bought the Amiga from Commador before they went bust. The Amiga was a big seller in England and other parts of Eorope. When we went to the moon I built a program for the kids to watch. The rocket took off and went up and around the moon a few times , the landing module seperated from the space ship and landed on the moon. All is well. after a few turns around the landing module took off and chased the space ship for a few turns and then docked with an ungodly loud clang and bounced back away from the spaceship? Finaly it docked! After fixing the errors the kids didn't like it. They liked the crashing sounds and, well you know kids. The Amiga I believe is still in existance. Google it! It's 3 dedicated graphics chips, Denise, Agnus and???

You're probably doing something ghastly, like not running it at full max.

That's what I'm having to do at the moment, haven't got the money to put together a good desktop so I'm running a laptop with a Celeron dual-core 1.8 with 1gb RAM. Absolute basic FS world but I can pull off a flight, just