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First thing first.

This is not my find.

If you like using external views this is not for you.

 

If you sit in the VC and never leave it like me 99% of the time....read on.

 

What this does is losers the external model. You do it like this,

 

Simply browse to the aircraft's main folder within C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\SimObjects\Airplanes, and go into the Model directory.

 

In the Model directory, open up Model.cfg and place '//' (two forward slashes) in front of the line that begins with 'normal='

 

It works for every aircraft but am only flying the PMDG 777 ATM so

 

e.g my new 777F looks like this

 

[models]
//normal=PMDG_777_200F.MDL
interior=PMDG_777_VC

 

TEST

Orbx CRM

Orbx KJAC Gate 8

I will let these speak for themselfs.

With Model

HhJV7.jpg

 

Without

2S6bu.jpg

 

 the 50 fps lock was just for these SS.

 

So for me it's a no brainer. I will take the extra head room all day long.

 

Enjoy.

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Love looking around on the external view,admiring the wingflex on the bird , great idea - but not for me. Anybody know how to get rid of the virtual cabin ??? not my cup of tea at all.

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Good find but shame it loses the model I mean I do fly 99.9% of time in VC mode but I do like to take screenshots of outside model and sometimes look at it flying etc

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It's all down to if you want/need the extra FPS,  like everything in FSX it has a price.

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Great find. I never leave the VC. Someone else found that un ticking High Resolution 3d Virtual Cockpit in settings gave me a boost but only works for PMDG and screws up other e.g Aerosoft Airbus A320.

 

I only wish MS would pull their head out of their arse and refine/update FSX to todays technology/code but that is wishful thinking...I could strangle the person who canceled MS Flight Sim meh. 

 

Cheers 

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Can this cause problems?

 

I mean, I could see it being usefull but if things like icing effects (if they are simulated), or the effects that turbulence has dont work......

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I think the only problem would be during walkaround...  :rolleyes:

 

Great find BTW! I don't think i will need this with 777, but is good to know

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Can this cause problems?

 

I mean, I could see it being usefull but if things like icing effects (if they are simulated), or the effects that turbulence has dont work......

Good point, I never thought of that. Like he said everything in FSX has a price!

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No it has no effects on turbulence and the T7 has not Iceing effects and if it did you cannot see them from the VC thus the only thing you lose is the model from out side.

 

What do you see from the out side? Really!!.......yes your right, you see nothing. It said at the top, you lose the external model.

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you lose virtual cabin with external model in this case.

 

EDIT: Virtual cabin is modeled only from external view from what i know

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The virtual cabin comes with the external model. So no it's not some part on it own.

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A better way to achieve the same thing, without losing the external model, is tick off the Hi-Def 3D Cockpit option  in the FSX Aircraft settings. Loss of Graphic quality is minimal if at all and you can double your frames.

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 I just tried it for a long haul and honestly I don't think this improved my fps at all right now. But I'm still sitting at the gate...  so let's see what happens in-flight.

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This "tweak" is my find, but I'm sure someone already discovered this tweak in the past.

 

Anyway, if you want to admire external model, or watch FSRecorder replays of landings and stuff, just edit model.cfg again, and RELOAD the plane, that should do it.

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1. I don't understand the point of this tweak... if your holding atleast 30 constant while you are flying your fine... FSX's FPS only needs to be half the refresh rate of your monitor for it to be smooth. Honestly trying to push FSX past 30 is ridiculous because when the FPS is like at 50 and drops to 30 your gonna see a stutter. Its better to hold a steady number constantly then try to push for something high and not have the ability to hold the higher number. Try keeping your FPS at 30, stabilize everything, if you could lock it at that number you will be fine, the only time you see stutters is when the FPS changes and thats more likely to happen the higher you try to push the FPS.

 

2. In reality this isn't even a tweak, all that you did was exclude the external model from being loaded so all you have is a VC and at that point it doesn't really make sense in the longrun since its a stop-gap measure, it doesn't solve the actual problem your having... its just a make shift solution which really isn't a solution at all.

 

3. Its your simulator; in the end you can do whatever you want even if it doesn't make sense logically, this is just my opinion... so guys don't jump down my throat because of this post. lol

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I would also want to get rid of virtual cabin! It's a huge FPS killer in 777 and NGX. PMDG should make an option to exclude this!!!!

 

I also have CS 767 and if I exclude virtual cabin I have + 10FPS, that is a huge gain in FPS!!!!

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I would also want to get rid of virtual cabin! It's a huge FPS killer in 777 and NGX. PMDG should make an option to exclude this!!!!
+1, fully second this. I don't even know how to see the virtual cabin...
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You don't understand the point of this tweak.

Sometimes you have to explain the most simple things. The SS above are from a view that is light on fps if I had used a UK airport from UK2000 and Orbx ENG fps would normal be around 22, for me 30 fps like you say is the magic number. I lock my fps at 30 but don't get that number with the NGX or T7.

If you cannot see the "sense" in gaining a lot of fps to help do just what you say, to be stable at 30 fps, then yes there is no point. The SS above where to show the gains to be had.

Can you not see that scene is very light on fps to show the gains from this "tweak".

It's not really a tweak? Well a tweak IMO is something that gains me fps and because I don't miss the external view helps a lot with fps for a cost of nothing to me.

If that makes "no logical sense" for anyone to what to improve there fps to help have a good fixed fps of around 30 then nothing does.

You right in if we could all have 30 fps anywhere with all setting max out locked at 30 fps this tweak or what ever you class as a tweak would be pointless.

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You don't understand the point of this tweak.

Sometimes you have to explain the most simple things. The SS above are from a view that is light on fps if I had used a UK airport from UK2000 and Orbx ENG fps would normal be around 22, for me 30 fps like you say is the magic number. I lock my fps at 30 but don't get that number with the NGX or T7.

If you cannot see the "sense" in gaining a lot of fps to help do just what you say, to be stable at 30 fps, then yes there is no point. The SS above where to show the gains to be had.

Can you not see that scene is very light on fps to show the gains from this "tweak".

It's not really a tweak? Well a tweak IMO is something that gains me fps and because I don't miss the external view helps a lot with fps for a cost of nothing to me.

If that makes "no logical sense" for anyone to what to improve there fps to help have a good fixed fps of around 30 then nothing does.

You right in if we could all have 30 fps anywhere with all setting max out locked at 30 fps this tweak or what ever you class as a tweak would be pointless.

 

I'm with you for some extra FPS!

PMDG aircraft are a huge FPS hit on my system because of the mouse cursor, I also have other complex addon's that are working at 30FPS locked and no mouse cursor problem either. If we could remove the virtual cabin I'm sure we can get some more FPS, enough to be stable at 30. Maybe we can delete the virtual cabin textures and see what happens! I'm not home right now, but I will try to see what I can do! 

 

If PMDG read's this maybe they could help. I just want an option to disable Virtual cabin for NGX and 777 just like Captain Sim has!

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You don't understand the point of this tweak.

Sometimes you have to explain the most simple things. The SS above are from a view that is light on fps if I had used a UK airport from UK2000 and Orbx ENG fps would normal be around 22, for me 30 fps like you say is the magic number. I lock my fps at 30 but don't get that number with the NGX or T7.

If you cannot see the "sense" in gaining a lot of fps to help do just what you say, to be stable at 30 fps, then yes there is no point. The SS above where to show the gains to be had.

Can you not see that scene is very light on fps to show the gains from this "tweak".

It's not really a tweak? Well a tweak IMO is something that gains me fps and because I don't miss the external view helps a lot with fps for a cost of nothing to me.

If that makes "no logical sense" for anyone to what to improve there fps to help have a good fixed fps of around 30 then nothing does.

You right in if we could all have 30 fps anywhere with all setting max out locked at 30 fps this tweak or what ever you class as a tweak would be pointless.

 

Hi David,

 

+1!

 

Im constantly trying to keep my FPS around 20+ - but have tough times achieving that. Yes, I need to give up some graphics in order to keep the T7 run smoothly. Your tweak maybe a help for me, so I appreciate it! I rather have the beautyfull sceneries & addon airports, rather than admire the T7 from external view. ofcourse its fun to see how AES loads the baggage etc, but then again, you have to choose, either smooth FPS or eyecandy at the tarmac....

 

I will definitely try this during the weekend to see whether this gives me any boost. In the end, as a pilot, you hardly can sit on your wing going mach .84 in reality and admire the wing flex :)

 

These things are just what makes this site and the FSX world so great - innovative people trying to get most out of the FSX! :)

Thanks mate!

Cheers

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