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Hands Off P3D V2.0 - Wait Awhile

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Nvidia inspector solved the jaggies for me. 
 
AA setting 8SQ
8x Super sampling
16x AF
I keep the AA setting in P3d at 4x.
 
Make sure you add the Prepar3d v2.exe before applying the setting.

I do not have Nvidia Inspector yet, but does anyone know a safe place from which to download it.  I just don't want to download Inspector plus some additional garbage apps that I really did not ask for.  Thanks all.

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I didn't know I needed your permission to compare them! Frankly, plunking down my $200 gives me the right to express my opinion in this way. I was also amplifying on several other posts.

 

What other basis is there for comparison, when someone is addressing the issue of whether to buy it or wait? I was just pointing out that the sims are pretty similar out of the box. You seem awfully emotionally invested in P3D. I said nice things about it, but it still wasn't enough to prevent an attack.

 

Anyway, I probably knew more about what to expect from P3D than most did. I knew the ATC, flight models, scenery, etc. would all be unchanged. I bought it anyway to help support the hobby. The future is the thing I was betting on. But I gave an opinion in the best way I could. Sorry I offended you.

You have to remember that 7 years have been lost to development, and the LM development team have been going through a huge learning curve. I'm uncertain if you have ever been in the position of having to take over someone else's code? Let me tell you, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare even if its been well documented.

 

The front end you see is like the tip of an iceberg and calling it a service pack in your opinion may sound correct but is as far from the truth as you can possibly imagine.

 

Code is like a living entity. You have to operate on it with care and precision. Not only have they completely changed the whole way the guts of the programme operates but have opened many doors to allow future enhancements by third party's. This is all stuff the end user doesn't see. They load it and first glances are as deceiving as a mirage.

 

I guess flippant comments like, it's just a service pack can be like a red rag to a bull. I'm sure your intention was not too have this effect, and I'm only trying to point out a possible reason. *smiles*

 

 

 

Nvidia inspector solved the jaggies for me. 

 

AA setting 8SQ

8x Super sampling

16x AF

I keep the AA setting in P3d at 4x.

 

Make sure you add the Prepar3d v2.exe before applying the setting.

Resolve it may be extreme. It HELPS it! But not anything like N.I does for FSX AA quality. Plus you failed to mention it only "enhances". There is no overriding. I found the Antialising Setting, any level, does nothing. Antialiasing trans. Multi. does help some set at 4SGS. Thats it, it helps. To say it resolves is to assume it fixes. The next guy comes along and spends two days and pulls there hair out try to make it "Fixed", like me. Im sure, hope, they resolve the little annoying issues. .

I agree "resolve" would be a poor choice of words in this case.

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Any NI/LM setting still results, at least for me and many others, the awful runway marking shimmering. Some seem to find that acceptable I reckon.

Any NI/LM setting still results, at least for me and many others, the awful runway marking shimmering. Some seem to find that acceptable I reckon.

I don't find it acceptable, but can live with it rather than wasting energy on the negatives rather than the positives.

 

The positive in this case is that I am quite confident that this problem will be resolved.

 

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Im not being negative, or trying to be. Im being relistic and informative. Im not going to suger coat it either. It will be fine, in time but for now. Theres a lot of work to be done. Saying everything is great doesnt help others.

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I see that I received advice on a poor video card. I was, and am, fully aware of that. Unfortunately I am not in a position to buy a $300 or $500 video card. Therefore, I decided to take a chance and redo my heat sinking. Then try overclocking again. It was  absolutely free and it did help my "treasured" FPS. The differential FPS you get when you cycle the ALT key reduced and settled closer to the max in all circumstances. With 50% on ALL sliders I get 20fps in New York City. But even in FSX I avoided cities so that is no liability. I focus on ORBX areas - KSEA is still a killer into the teens FPS wise.

 

The video card and the the CPU now run no more than 60c. My video memory is always fully used and I suppose that the spill over to RAM is also used up. I am sure I would visually benefit from a new video card and 4 more cores from an i7nnnn. But I always stay at least one generation behind and allow others to be early adopters. If I was 30 years old I probably would have better "stuff" but .....

 

My actual point was a bit too obtuse. I was suggesting that people, who are not in a position to upgrade take a look at some simple things that "might" give them breathing room until the cookie jar is filled. I also felt that Lockheed Martin would be fixing a lot of things in their first update. To immediately jump into "fiddling" may not be the best move. I have been on that road many times with FSX and I rarely found any magic revelation. Waiting for the first update before spending money may be a good choice for some.

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I didn't know I needed your permission to compare them! Frankly, plunking down my $200 gives me the right to express my opinion in this way. I was also amplifying on several other posts.

 

What other basis is there for comparison, when someone is addressing the issue of whether to buy it or wait? I was just pointing out that the sims are pretty similar out of the box. You seem awfully emotionally invested in P3D. I said nice things about it, but it still wasn't enough to prevent an attack.

 

Anyway, I probably knew more about what to expect from P3D than most did. I knew the ATC, flight models, scenery, etc. would all be unchanged. I bought it anyway to help support the hobby. The future is the thing I was betting on. But I gave an opinion in the best way I could. Sorry I offended you.

Sir that was not an attack.

The ones who seem to be emotional roller coasters about P3D are members like you who cant get out of the mindframe of comparing it to FSX.

 

FSX this

FSX servicepack 3 that

FS11

 

This is P3D.

 

What is it competing with thats currently being developed besides XPlane???

FSX hit its core development wall years ago.

Luckily we have addon companies to keep it aloft and thats all we have.

 

You said you knew more about what to expect from P3D then most of us, but you go on to make the same elementary comparisons as if you were expecting a brand new sim.

Then compare it to FSX with addons.

 

I was not trying to offend you, Im simply pointing out the overly emotional mindframe members like you have when it comes to having an FSX reference with anything besides FSX.

 

From someone who claims to have known more about what to expect from P3D then the rest of us you seem disappointed because your  "open minded expectations" still were not met.

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I'm sure that the code has been changed in marvelous ways. In fact, I am banking on it! But we can't really see that right now, can we? All we can do is trust that we will in the future. The thread was about what we can see NOW as to why we should upgrade. I said the reason to upgrade now is to support the hobby, not because you will see any tremendous upgrade in performance. I really don't see how that is being flippant. Jeez, what would you guys have said if I recommended NOT buying it?

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I'm sure that the code has been changed in marvelous ways. In fact, I am banking on it! But we can't really see that right now, can we? All we can do is trust that we will in the future. The thread was about what we can see NOW as to why we should upgrade. I said the reason to upgrade now is to support the hobby, not because you will see any tremendous upgrade in performance. I really don't see how that is being flippant. Jeez, what would you guys have said if I recommended NOT buying it?

And yet there are already people seeing a tremendous upgrade in performance.  There are people seeing an upgrade in their video card providing a tremendous upgrade in performance.

 

There's lots already being seen, if you choose to look.

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And there's alot with quite the opposite also!

For me the video card upgrade made a nice difference.  It made the sim run about as well as FSX did on my old cards. ^_^ 

 

But come on, until the third party developers start using the new hooks in the code, it isn't all that revolutionary a change. In fact, it is mostly no change at all (please note I said MOSTLY). But I have basically spent $900 because I believe that it WILL BE a revolutionary change down the road. I am hardly a nay-sayer, I am just trying to be honest about what I see.

 - Bill Magann

 

 


Anyway, I probably knew more about what to expect from P3D than most did. I knew the ATC, flight models, scenery, etc. would all be unchanged. I bought it anyway to help support the hobby.

 

Let me get this straight. You knew a lot of things were unchanged. But you bought it anyway? To help support the hobby?

 

In other words you purchased P3Dv2 for $200 from a company that last year turned over $47.2 BILLION, just to support this hobby???? I think not!!!!  :Party:  :Party: Throw some money to a better cause methinks, there are far needier countries or organisations that need more deserving support than a bunch of hobbyists who cannot agree on the time of day, let alone embracing change . Just to support this hobby. Indeed.  :lol:

 

But of course I am teasing you somewhat. Like you, I am hedging on the future and I am quite sure that once the 3rd Party Developers get behind it fully and start to weave their magic, then, I certainly hope, we will start to see the differences become more and more apparent. I am however also one of the lucky ones, because P3Dv2 runs better for me than I can get FSX to run. So I can at least play with two toys during what I suspect will be an extended transitional period. It's always been that way with every release, but this time there has been a seven year gap rather than the usual two year cycle, which in itself makes it harder for LM. 

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