Hopefully we see some new interior preview shots!

 

This isn't just another 737 lol we need a classic!

You realise what this means....?

 

Not JUST a great 737 Classic, but a great 737 Classic with CLASSIC support!!!!

 

QW must be about the most understated creators of FS aircraft there is!

 

REALLY looking forward to this;-)

The enigma version sent good vibes. But I question the changing of the guard. QW doesn't exactly scream PMDG level (while enigma did).

 

What are the thoughts on this? And will this new project slow down their proposed B787?

 

Agreed on your first statement.   I have not been following the 787 dev. since I don't do the lite tubeliners but they claim that it will not slow them down on the 787

 

I was under the impression that the enigma was going to build a study level classic, QW does not typically make products like that and from what I was reading it sounds like this product will be on about the AXE level maybe not even to that level ( mid-middleupper level sim depth)  For that reason I am kind of disappointed with this news. I just don't get the whole lite airliner thing. Flying a tubeliner is boring enough with realistic systems, I can not even imagine how dull a 10 hour 787 flight is with lite modeling.

 

QW said about the systems depth of their 146 maybe a bit deeper in some areas...  Is the 146 a deep sim? On the product page it says it has atleast the major systems simulated.   The line that scares me on the 146 is "realistic but balanced flight model" <----  WHAT?  so it has a lite flight model?  FS  study level tubes are easy to fly I can't imagine how easy a lite flight model is.

Looking forward to the 737-500 as that is one of my favorites... I like the "short-n-stubby" look of the 735.  Hope they do a version for P3D.  Also hope they don't feel like they have to compete to try and make it a PMDG clone.  Not everyone needs every system modeled or wants to pay $90 for an aircraft.  Something to look forward to in 2014.

Looking forward to the 737-500 as that is one of my favorites... I like the "short-n-stubby" look of the 735.  Hope they do a version for P3D.  Also hope they don't feel like they have to compete to try and make it a PMDG clone.  Not everyone needs every system modeled or wants to pay $90 for an aircraft.  Something to look forward to in 2014.

 

 

I can understand the price thing.  But good add-on's I spend hundreds of hours using (NGX, A2A 172 ETC.. )  I think even 90 bucks is cheap if I learn a lot about the plane.   QW is a good developer for that middle market.  Maybe they can make two versions? 

Flying a tubeliner is boring enough with realistic systems, I can not even imagine how dull a 10 hour 787 flight is with lite modeling.

 

If lite modeling means lack of failures and systems that aren't normally used then I don't see what difference it would make. 

 

 

 

 

d.   The line that scares me on the 146 is "realistic but balanced flight model" <----  WHAT?  so it has a lite flight model?

No it doesn't, I find its flight model just as advanced as other high quality addon aircraft out there have. In fact I've been very happy with the FD of both their 757 and 146, I think they both have better "feel" in them than the old respected Level D 767 for example. Of course this is all subjective.

I think this is really good news and I'm sure I will be purchasing it. With the support of QW and the original team working on it, it should be great!

Noone mentioned Milviz???

Noone mentioned Milviz???

 

Probably because people can tell a difference between -200 and -300  ^_^

When I read the news this morning I went: wow!! I am a big fan of the 737 Classic. But then I headed over the QW website, and their motto "complexity...simplified" struck me and left me disappointed. I could understand a realistic version, with in depth sim of say the FMC and such, all the different systems, and a lighter version for those who do not want to read manuals, but the idea of a simplified liner really puts me off.

PMDG in this respect stands out as their renditions are extremely realistic, you can buy the original Boeing manuals, and most of the stuff you read on them are simulated, plain and simple models in a liner to me make no sense. I hoped Enigma would pull this off, but unfortunately now we are waiting for let's say a nice looking toy, with cool graphics and panels, but still a toy, with buttons and systems that are not even modeled...what is the point? I'll pass...thanks Enigma for trying to develop a realistic Classic, now it will be just a nice exterior model that you can fly with very little knowledge and effort...good for screenshots. Oh well, let's see, I am studying the NGX, next will be the MD11, 747 and 777...yes, I'll pass...

 

Enrico

 

 

If lite modeling means lack of failures and systems that aren't normally used then I don't see what difference it would make.

No it doesn't, I find its flight model just as advanced as other high quality addon aircraft out there have. In fact I've been very happy with the FD of both their 757 and 146, I think they both have better "feel" in them than the old respected Level D 767 for example. Of course this is all subjective.

 

Exactly! Thos that have never owned a QW plane really should try the Avro before passing judgement  :-)

Exactly! Thos that have never owned a QW plane really should try the Avro before passing judgement  :-)

 

well, it's a statement on their website, complexity...simplified, I like complexity, if I want a simplified aircraft there are tons of GA airplanes just for that. Pardon me, but still I don't see the excitement out of a simplified version of a liner. But I am sure, others will be happy that they do not have to read the manuals and can fire up a flight in 5 minutes...

well, it's a statement on their website, complexity...simplified, I like complexity, if I want a simplified aircraft there are tons of GA airplanes just for that. Pardon me, but still I don't see the excitement out of a simplified version of a liner. But I am sure, others will be happy that they do not have to read the manuals and can fire up a flight in 5 minutes...

 

You are correct, they probably should change that tag line, cause there is no way you are going to fire up either the 146's or the RJ's and go flying without reading the manual

I could understand a realistic version, with in depth sim of say the FMC and such, all the different systems, and a lighter version for those who do not want to read manuals

 

That pretty much sums up what QW 146/RJ offers. There are two modes of operation, one with realistic FMC(s), autopilot (LNAV, VNAV), systems and normal procedures simulated. The other one seems to be more like default aircraft, but never tried it so can't comment on that. 

 

For those who are concerned about QualityWings quality, you can download the 300 pages manual for Avro RJ to check if it's hardore enough for you:

http://qwsim.com/index.php/downloads?c=docs&m=757

Who knows maybe QW will have another division -Enigma Sims- that'll do the study level soon but have the choice to make it not so hard for those that like that. Especially if Enigma have already done a lot of coding