January 10, 201412 yr The Alabeo Tomahawk has been released. Just bought it and it looks and flies very nice! Intel i-9 13900KF @ 6.0 Ghz, MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24GB, MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360, MSI Z790 A-PRO WIFI, MSI MPG A1000G 1000W, G.SKILL 48Gb@76000 MHz DDR5, MSI SPATIUM M480 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 2TB, Windows 11 Pro Ghost Spectre x64 “We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the day and night to visit violence on those who would do us harm”.
January 10, 201412 yr Looks nice. Ive always liked the Tomahawk although ive never flown one in real life. Did the Tomahawk ever have a bad rep years ago for some reason or am I confussing it with something else? Rob
January 10, 201412 yr Author Not sure, being as I have also never flown a real Tomahawk. Intel i-9 13900KF @ 6.0 Ghz, MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24GB, MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360, MSI Z790 A-PRO WIFI, MSI MPG A1000G 1000W, G.SKILL 48Gb@76000 MHz DDR5, MSI SPATIUM M480 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 2TB, Windows 11 Pro Ghost Spectre x64 “We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the day and night to visit violence on those who would do us harm”.
January 10, 201412 yr It looks very representative, but doesn't fly much like it. Can't comment on why that is, just doesn't feel like it. Real PA38s are a lot less predictable particularly when it gets bashed around by the rough air. The real thing is a lot more wobbly. You need to constantly be on the controls. Where this one flies a bit more like a cessna, or rather, with the maneuverability of a tomahawk, but with a stability of a larger GA aircraft. However, this bird was release quite a few months back. I got it because it's the only one available, and it looks semi decent too. Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
January 10, 201412 yr Did the Tomahawk ever have a bad rep years ago for some reason or am I confussing it with something else? It did have a "rep" amongst some hangar pilots (it's often referred to as a "Traumahawk"), but I'm not sure it was deserved. As with the Arrow IV, the T-tail was often unfairly derided and I think there were some spin training fatalities that caused some buzz. Note, I have no Tomahawk time, so no personal experience. I was the owner pilot of a Turbo Arrow IV however, and I used to laugh at the hangar flyers who "knew" how bad the Piper T-tail was. Scott
January 10, 201412 yr Author Hi Brenchen The Tomahawk was released today for X Plane, not a few months ago. :rolleyes: You must have got the FSX version or the freeware one at the ORG. Intel i-9 13900KF @ 6.0 Ghz, MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24GB, MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360, MSI Z790 A-PRO WIFI, MSI MPG A1000G 1000W, G.SKILL 48Gb@76000 MHz DDR5, MSI SPATIUM M480 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 2TB, Windows 11 Pro Ghost Spectre x64 “We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the day and night to visit violence on those who would do us harm”.
January 10, 201412 yr I'm guessing this is another case of new threads popping up that don't show XP vs FSX. The FSX version came out a while ago. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
January 10, 201412 yr Author That's what I just said in the last post. Intel i-9 13900KF @ 6.0 Ghz, MSI RTX 4090 Suprim Liquid X 24GB, MSI MAG CORELIQUID C360, MSI Z790 A-PRO WIFI, MSI MPG A1000G 1000W, G.SKILL 48Gb@76000 MHz DDR5, MSI SPATIUM M480 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 2TB, Windows 11 Pro Ghost Spectre x64 “We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the day and night to visit violence on those who would do us harm”.
January 10, 201412 yr I was the owner pilot of a Turbo Arrow IV however, Scott Nice! Now that was a good looking airplane! I'm old enough to remember the T-tail craze of the 70's..
January 10, 201412 yr Yea I just looked at the main screen for new threads, this caught my eye, but didn't know it was for X-Plane. My bad. So if its the same bird for XP and FSX, I guess what my personal opinion are still holds true for the XP version... Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
January 11, 201412 yr So if its the same bird for XP and FSX, I guess what my personal opinion are still holds true for the XP version... Not quite. There are many Carenado/Alabeo planes where the XP-Version behaves totally different. Karsten Schubert
January 11, 201412 yr So if its the same bird for XP and FSX, I guess what my personal opinion are still holds true for the XP version... Given FSX and XP have fundamentally different methods of flight modelling about the only thing that is common to the FSX and XP versions of the Carenado/Alabeo models is the 3D model before it gets exported to the respective sim's native format. The Carenado/Alabeo X-Plane flight models are done by a different guy and built from the ground up. Nick
January 12, 201412 yr Wow! Something to look forward to then! I got a copy of XP but not installed yet. I know XP's flight modeling is excellent for subsonic ranges, so it would be superb to have a compare with something that I actually fly. Then I might actually become an advocate for XP too! Thanks for correcting me on that Brendan Chen Learning to use and getting use to FSX!
January 12, 201412 yr Wow! Something to look forward to then! I got a copy of XP but not installed yet. I know XP's flight modeling is excellent for subsonic ranges, so it would be superb to have a compare with something that I actually fly. Then I might actually become an advocate for XP too! Thanks for correcting me on that Yes, Dan Klaue, the author of the Carenado conversions ( almost all ) from FSX to X-Plane, has done a remarkable work. I own 3 Carenados and they're all very good! Never bought Carenados for FSX, but I did try a few... Regarding X-plane being excellent for subsonic ranges, it is also good for transonic, even hypersonic :-) The Equations are there, even though ( thank's God!!! ) that is not the focus of attention of Austin.... He does have a lot of detail going on with it's BET approach to these regimes ;-) Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
January 12, 201412 yr Carenado do have quite a mixed reputation in the FSX community. It's a shame that in many cases the effort put into the 3D modelling and texturing isn't reflected in the flight model. However, the Carenado and Alabeo aircraft with flight models done by Bernt Stolle are really very well done and are among my favourite and most enjoyable aircraft in FSX. Nick
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