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First impressions ...

 

Yes its better than the otherwise excellent freeware UUEE.

Said to be AES compatible (if Oliver gets off his butt).

Quite a number a fine graphic glitches no doubt caused in downsizing textures ... rope, wire, antennae etc.

 

Worth $A25?  Yes, just.

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Appliance, which freeware did you use so far? The one by Mozila, AlexMur and Aniter from 2011?

Without having tested the DD product so far (have just bought it, but can install it not earlier than in the evening) I expect a product that really has the athmosphere of a "living" airport. That was what the UUEE freeware products lacked particularly and why UUEE was most needed of all big Moscow airports in my opinion.

 

What I have seen from the screenshots at simmarkets: Static Il-96's and Tu-154's while Aeroflot has in fact phased them out...? I do like Stanislaw's static planes but I hope I can deactivate the ones with modern Aeroflot livery while keeping the lovely scrapyard with Il-86 and Il-76.

 

I will show the airport my father and see if he remembers some parts from his 1968 USSR journey.

 

Let's meet in Moscow!

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Appliance, which freeware did you use so far? The one by Mozila, AlexMur and Aniter from 2011?

Without having tested the DD product so far (have just bought it, but can install it not earlier than in the evening) I expect a product that really has the athmosphere of a "living" airport. That was what the UUEE freeware products lacked particularly and why UUEE was most needed of all big Moscow airports in my opinion.

 

What I have seen from the screenshots at simmarkets: Static Il-96's and Tu-154's while Aeroflot has in fact phased them out...? I do like Stanislaw's static planes but I hope I can deactivate the ones with modern Aeroflot livery while keeping the lovely scrapyard with Il-86 and Il-76.

 

I will show the airport my father and see if he remembers some parts from his 1968 USSR journey.

 

Let's meet in Moscow!

You can deactivate static airplanes in options.

 

Those older planes in the field will stay I believe, as they're not considered "traffic". It's just a few unfortunate planes which likely won't see service again... Unfortunately such sight is normal in many airports in the east.

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which freeware did you use

 

Hi Harald.

 

Not sure I'm afraid.  Main folder named UUEE contains two folders named SVO1 and SVO-LC neither of which have read me's or other identifying features.  Sorry.  :(

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No problem.

 

Had my first tests with UUEE. But unfortunately it seems not to have the high standard as Tallinn or the Polish sceneries. Textures are a little bit "washed" and, as Tushka suspected, it's harder on frames than I expected from a DD scenery.

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No problem.

 

Had my first tests with UUEE. But unfortunately it seems not to have the high standard as Tallinn or the Polish sceneries. Textures are a little bit "washed" and, as Tushka suspected, it's harder on frames than I expected from a DD scenery.

 

I agree Harald. It is not of the same high quality of Tallinn….almost looks like a different developer.

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almost looks like a different developer.

Yes, either this - or hastily converted for FS9 while EETN was planned as FS9 scenery from the beginning.

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Hard on frames indeed... I don't know what caused it. Even FSX version isn't the usual quality but maybe it makes sence as Sheremetyevo is more closed off to visitors taking photographs than those other airports in smaller and possibly more friendly airport mangement. Not sure how they got permission in the first place or maybe never did, or with help of native Russians.

 

However, I'm still happy that UUEE was done. It's my hub for flight operations and obviously better quality than the freeware (even though the freeware is good and better for people with older machines).

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I have tested a little in the night and there seem to be several frame hogs: At first a file "UUEE_extra.bgl" which contains, according to Stanislaw, extra objects (service vehicles etc.) Then it seems that the taxiway and apron lightings play a prominent role in FPS decrease. While the installer gives us the option to uncheck several object categories, the lighting system should be untouched by these.

 

Bt it may well be that we just underestimate this airport with its buildings, trees, objects... and it's sheer area.

 

I have posted a quite long text with some suggestions for improvements at Drzewiecki's forum, read it here:

http://drzewiecki-design.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4700#4700

Also read Stanislaws very kind answer.

 

 

 


almost looks like a different developer.

The manual mentions "subcontractors"...

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I do NOT recommend this scenery. Putting land class files in a folder with a scenery AND texture folder will cause OOM's (this should be known by all scenery developers).

 

And the low frame rates (difficult to get even on my system) indicate something is seriously wrong with this scenery.

 

And IMO not made by the same people who made Tallin. (EETN) 

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I do NOT recommend this scenery.  

 

That's a shame, Ed. From what I've observed it does seem to be a rush job by DD. Hopefully they'll patch it into usability at some point.

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I have always thought of DD as a top notch scenery developer and was very happy to buy UUEE without a second thought.

 

How ever since my post has just been deleted on his forum ...

 

"A scenery developer who puts land class files in a folder with a scenery folder AND a texture folder has no business making PAYware scenery as they should know this causes OOM's..this is page 1 stuff.

Edit* B*&%$y hell!. I have just had my first chance to try the scenery. The frame rates are lower than any add-on scenery I have (and I have a lot). There is something seriously wrong with this scenery…...who made it?….not the same people who made EETN."

 

In future I will wait for the public to beta test (as surely noone did this scenery) . :mellow: 

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my post has just been deleted

 

Thats most unfortunate edetroit.

 

Clearly Stan is under pressure right now ... to make money after the NYC mess and with a child due shortly apparently.  His team has had issues this year too.  Altogether not a happy time for DD.  There nevertheless is a LOT (pardon the pun) of goodwill out there for DD and hopefully UUEE will prove a passing aberration.

 

 


very happy to buy UUEE without a second thought.

You are not alone here.  I jumped in as did many forum members and others in our little community.  Chastened, next time we will all be just a little careful.

 

To be fair, and on a brighter note,  DD have released an update for Warsaw City 2013.

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Towing bar too short?

 

 

 

 

Don't get me started. I have been waiting over a year and a half for the ability to select which truck I use and a long tow bar!  :mad:

 

TBO I wish I could dump the program but I can't …I love it. :lol:

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I don't like the UUEE either but the only other choice I have is the freeware. Frames are terrible hence I had to lower down some options which was really not nice, and the taxiways have very jagged edges despite I have good antialiasing settings set. The Mdesign Domodedovo was better for me and it's possible I might have to switch base to Domodedovo instead.

 

If I were him I wouldn't try to model New York... All of it? That's just a recipe for disaster. Obviously it was going to be a mess. And UUEE being a big airport it needs more patience and experience to be made. He was good making polish airports, it was very polished and well made hence I was very happy to hear that UUEE was being made (obviously with less details as it's a bigger airport to save frames). It has been mentioned he will shortly have a kid, perhaps that might have something to do with the rushed release, however, I will not go in details about someones personal life. Only that if I had a kid, I would not have time anymore for FS until 5 years later.

 

I'm sure (and hope) there will be a patch as in this small market reputation is very important.

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Don't get me started. I have been waiting over a year and a half for the ability to select which truck I use and a long tow bar!

 

Ed, I didn't want to offend you. This picture just reminded me to the one you posted in Aerosoft's forum. I can understand that this is at least so annoying to you as the fact that the fuel truck stands 10 m away from my plane is to me.

 

BTW, I read your post in DD's forum before it was deleted and I'm sure so did many other users.

 

Regarding UUEE and a coming UBBB I have mixed feelings. I did as many here: I was so glad that there's a new version of UUEE and bought it without any hesitate. And I still find UUEE not that bad.

 

As stated somewhere above, there have been subcontractors to DD. After my impression you can find parts which obviously are made by DD themselves (f. i. look at the tower building!) and others which are not (ground textures, blending AFCAD/ground, some buildings' textures). It's obviously this mixture together with hurriness and perhaps lacking supervision which makes the scenery as it is. The fact that there are Landclass files is a beginner's fault indeed. (You will lough: I moved them into a dedicated Russia Landclass scenery before starting the first time at UUEE by instinct)

 

I'm sure that DD will update the scenery. The words which Stanislaw posted after my suggestions sound hopeful.

 

 

 


Only that if I had a kid, I would not have time anymore for FS until 5 years later.

 

Oh, for some months now I have two of them and I still fly regularly. In addition, my elder son (6) is a good companion for spotting!

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Oh, for some months now I have two of them and I still fly regularly. In addition, my elder son (6) is a good companion for spotting!

 

Spotting?  Shouldn't he be able to get to the bathroom in time at age 6?

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Shouldn't he be able to get to the bathroom in time at age 6?

Thanks for the very nice comment. He learnt this between 2 and 3.

 

Edit: oh, maybe there is some English pun that I don't recognize as no native English speaker? Spotting = watching planes landing and taking off at the fence of the airport. Isn't that the correct word?

There are German words which sound and are said to be English, for instance "Handy". But the thing being designated "Handy" is called a "cellphone" in real English. Are "spotting" and "spotter" (the person who watches planes) such words, too?

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(You will lough: I moved them into a dedicated Russia Landclass scenery before starting the first time at UUEE by instinct)
 

Harald,

 

Could you list the files which need to be moved to a dedicated landclass scenery? I am not sure how to indetify them.

 

Cheers,

Mike

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