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I only have the C172N V3, but I have noticed that the extreme roll tendencies are not there and I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed a change in their re released AC? I wonder if they implemented those new counter force controls. 

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HI,

 

I made a short flight with the v3 Saratoga and thought that the left turning tendency on take-off was reduced. A nice improvement. Plus the image of the nose cowling has been lowered in the forward view from the cockpit. Carenado did a really nice job on the upgrade.

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Yes, the torque effects are being reduced in all v3 aircraft.

 

Ahhh so I wasn't crazy! Cmon Bonanza next!!

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We're going pretty much in sequence.  And it looks like the best way of doing this is sending packs of 4 to the distributors.  On the Carenado site, however, we can publish them as they're ready, so about one a week.  (The F33A Bonanza is actually already up as v3.0, and the V35 is soon to follow.... didn't go in sequence here, because the Bonanzas are similar).

 

Scroll wheel implementation is not a trivial matter. It changes a lot of things about the way the plane functions, and since it's still such a fledgeling technology in X-Plane, we consider it better to publish to a smaller audience first, as implementing changes is no big deal if the new planes are only on Carenado's servers.  Once they're out on all the reseller's sites, it's a much bigger deal to send out an update or a patch, since some resellers aren't very quick with updates, or fail to notify clients of the updates.

 

If you've bought your planes on the Carenado online store originally, you can check the plane you're interested in for updates, under the plane's description.  If you see a v3.0 in the description, that means the file has been updated, and downloading it from the Carenado site again will give you the updated version.  (Make sure you reset your browser beforehand, though, or use a different browser... sometimes the old files are still cached in the browser memory).

 

I'd actually appreciate some feedback on these v3 planes... but nothing too crazy, as in, we aren't going to put GPSses into planes that currently don't have them, and we won't be putting individual clients' wish lists into these updates.  (Keep in mind, they're free.)  They're merely updates to get the planes all up to speed with scroll wheel support and GNS430/530 support... and perhaps little bug fixes here or there (sound improvements, torque fix, radio now able to transmit on COM2 if COM2 only selected as input, and then trying to implement fixes that clients have been requesting on individual planes.) 

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Like FSX plane with knobs and the c152 and c172 are flying pretty good, put in two hours flying into both c152 and c172. V3 is good update thanks for fixing some of the issues.

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Hmmm, Dan, that sounds interesting - V3 aircraft being less prone to the "torque bug", but I wonder if you're using your initial tweak, based on the "prop" dataref, or if you already managed to use the 6 new datarefs forr forces / moments around the 3 main axis ?

 

I think I'll try to get my installers back :-)

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Like FSX plane with knobs and the c152 and c172 are flying pretty good, put in two hours flying into both c152 and c172. V3 is good update thanks for fixing some of the issues.

 

I put some hours in the c172 also and for once it was a nice flight and not a constant fight/adjustments also.

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I just checked out the v3 F33A Bonanza on the Carenado X-P Products page. I downloaded my upgrade and made a short flight.

 

Very nice job with reduced torque effects, excellent cockpit instrumentation and lighting. Coupled approach worked like a charm.

 

Dan, Keep up the good work.

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Feedback for Dan:

Something weird happened to me with the Mooney v3, when moving the course select pointer of the HSI with the mouse wheel in the course select knob, while descending with autopilot on, my pitch changed, tha plane wanted to climb, when ended moving the course select pointer of the HSI, then all back to my normal descent, don't know if this is a bug or something related to my setup. I'll test the other planes asa well and report back.

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More interested in the C172. So that spinning is gone am I right ? How are the aircraft's on the fps ?

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More interested in the C172. So that spinning is gone am I right ? How are the aircraft's on the fps ?

 

Yes and Great.

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I just checked out the v3 F33A Bonanza on the Carenado X-P Products page. I downloaded my upgrade and made a short flight.

 

Very nice job with reduced torque effects, excellent cockpit instrumentation and lighting. Coupled approach worked like a charm.

 

Dan, Keep up the good work.

 

I still seem to have a pronounced roll using my F33, bu not noticeable on my C172. Nevermind figured it out, was full throttle.

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If you've bought your planes on the Carenado online store originally, you can check the plane you're interested in for updates, under the plane's description.  If you see a v3.0 in the description, that means the file has been updated, and downloading it from the Carenado site again will give you the updated version.

 

Any easier way to find out which aircraft are updated? There's actually an "Updates & patches" tab under the account page at Carenado.com, but it seems to be only for FSX/P3D aircraft? Why not use it for X-Plane as well?

 

Also, what about the limit of 3 downloads? Does this mean we're only allowed 2 updates (3 downloads total) before we have to re-purchase?

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Also, what about the limit of 3 downloads? Does this mean we're only allowed 2 updates (3 downloads total) before we have to re-purchase?

No. If you have reached the 3 downloads limit you simply have to contact their support.

Furthermore, in case of Updates you will now get a separate download link for the updates. (At least for the B1900D this was the case).

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Any easier way to find out which aircraft are updated? There's actually an "Updates & patches" tab under the account page at Carenado.com, but it seems to be only for FSX/P3D aircraft? Why not use it for X-Plane as well?

 

Also, what about the limit of 3 downloads? Does this mean we're only allowed 2 updates (3 downloads total) before we have to re-purchase?

 

 

No. If you have reached the 3 downloads limit you simply have to contact their support.

Furthermore, in case of Updates you will now get a separate download link for the updates. (At least for the B1900D this was the case).

 

 

 

Correct, just contact Carenado, they have a ticket system. These are not updates for Xplane, but whole new versions, so your V3s are under the main download link. Remember to disable any download managers, I zeroed mine out on the first try and didn't get my product.

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I've purchased all of my Carenado aircraft from their own website but looking at my account I don't see any references to V3 aircraft. I am not sure how they would be indicated but I hate to waste a download and get the same version I already have..

 

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Yes, downloads are reset when there's a major update like this one.  And we don't make use of the patch system because it's not really necessary, as we re-publish the entire plane for X-Plane.   In the end, it's easier, because that way the client still retains an older version of the plane, isn't being asked to fiddle around with files and folders, it's a good time for Carenado to reset downloads, and customer support is way less confusing. ("Which version of the plane?  3.0?  OK."   I can deal with that.  But once you start having to keep track of patches for 30+ planes, it gets a bit tricky.)

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Just go to their main XP products page and it will say version numbers as you view a product. For example as of this morning the BE33 was done but not the V tail yet

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I just checked out the v3 F33A Bonanza on the Carenado X-P Products page. I downloaded my upgrade and made a short flight.

 

Very nice job with reduced torque effects, excellent cockpit instrumentation and lighting. Coupled approach worked like a charm.

 

Dan, Keep up the good work.

 

Are you able to use the scroll wheel on the V/S dial? I can't seem to get mine working.

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The V/S dial has two modes: Altitude and vertical speed.  Both should work with scroll wheel.  Click in the middle of the knob to activate V/S mode.  V/S mode is also automatically activated when  you hit the "V/S engage" button (on the left).  

 

If you engage V/S with the V/S engage button, the V/S mode is on a timer... it'll revert back to Alt select after about 5 seconds.

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The V/S dial has two modes: Altitude and vertical speed.  Both should work with scroll wheel.  Click in the middle of the knob to activate V/S mode.  V/S mode is also automatically activated when  you hit the "V/S engage" button (on the left).  

 

If you engage V/S with the V/S engage button, the V/S mode is on a timer... it'll revert back to Alt select after about 5 seconds.

 

Dan, that Altitude works, but the V/S doesn't. It registers and the digits flicker, but it won't change.

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Hmm... any other plugin perhaps overriding the V/S values?  Or hardware?  Anyone else experiencing this?  It works fine in all of my tests.

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Hmm... any other plugin perhaps overriding the V/S values? Or hardware? Anyone else experiencing this? It works fine in all of my tests.

No hardware and if i switch scrollwheel off it works. No issues with b1900 scrollwheel.

Just remembered I have not updated to 10.31, will try tomorrow.

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