As for an old machine running Windows 3.0 you would be surprised how many hobbyists are buying up vintage machines. 80486DX2 66mhz is the one with the highest value (I still have mine). 

 

That was a beast back in the day. I loved mine. I really miss MS-DOS, although games started to challenge base memory limitations. Remember tweaking the autoexec.bat and confi.sys files? Those were the days!

You know fellas, I'm no lawyer (of course) but IMO I can't see legally why you cannot sell a machine with software on. You're not selling the software separately, ie, in download or disc form, it sits on a hard drive and if the owner should decide to sell the computer where the software resides, then I can't see any issue. But I guess it would depend on how the machine was advertised.

 

 

You know fellas, I'm no lawyer (of course) but IMO I can't see legally why you cannot sell a machine with software on.

 

You can legally sell software in the EU because the courts have decided that - which overrules the EULA - subject to no time limit on the softwares use.

 

In general you can't sell it if you agree in the EULA not to sell it.

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Of course, no U.S. software company is bound by EU rules and can simply choose to not honor the license that is 'transferred'. Not much the EU can do about that.

how much are you asking for it all?

how much are you asking for it all?

 

Afraid as I got no interest here or on a couple of other sites I am in the process of stripping the parts out and selling them seperately, having kept all of my addons in case I ever get back to it.

Of course, no U.S. software company is bound by EU rules and can simply choose to not honor the license that is 'transferred'. Not much the EU can do about that.

 

That is true - an unscrupulous US software company could  try to ignore its EU customers' rights. Most of us wouldn't touch such a company with the proverbial barge-pole.

That is true - an unscrupulous US software company could  try to ignore its EU customers' rights. Most of us wouldn't touch such a company with the proverbial barge-pole.

Uh... riiight. Thanks for the laugh. :grin:

Of course, no U.S. software company is bound by EU rules and can simply choose to not honor the license that is 'transferred'. Not much the EU can do about that.

Well that seems to be the crux of the issue right there. A license transferred to a new user has a higher chance of generating new support issues for the supplier for which they are not compensated to handle (unless support comes with an annual fee). While I personally support one's right to sell their rights to a piece of used software, it's not unreasonable to expect a license transfer fee from the supplier to cover the cost of the associated support burden, assuming there is ongoing product support.

I should think it's really pretty simple.  You can sell the software and hand over the license in the EU, but the software companies have no obligation to support second-hand software and, outside of Europe, have no obligation to honor the transferred license.  A transfer of product generally doesn't imply a transfer of warranty or support, unless expressly stated in the purchase contract, anywhere that I know of - although perhaps that isn't true in the EU.

 

DJ

It's you computer. it's your paid software. All you're doing is placing it on a different "room."  Will any of the software companies keep track of where the box is sitting? Not one... In fact, they could care less.. You already paid for it-  It's yours.

 

However, (here's where it matters), if you were building computers and using the exact same license for reselling and making business; then, I'm sure no developer will be happy. (just my $1.00)

 

For Example: You've had a laptop with Windows XP or 7, and you decide you want to buy a better laptop, and you sell the current one to a friend (or anyone). Do you call Microsoft and ask for their permission? Nope!

Since FSX came out I have lived in Halifax, NS, Toronto, ON, New York, NY and 4 different houses in Wellington, NZ. I have used, installed and reinstalled FSX and Addons in all of those locations without any problems, as well as 3 new machines in that time. I could have been multiple people for all anyone knows.

 

The only issue I can see with it is some installers require some of your personal information to install like the last 4 digits of your credit card you used to purchase, or your email or things like that so selling addons may lead the buyer in a situation where he doesn't have that information.