April 3, 201511 yr Moderator Many of you might be aware of this already but for those who aren't I've found a way of reclaiming up to 200Mb of VAS which may be the difference between getting an OOM and not. This is with the MS version of FSX.Flying FS Labs Concorde-X out of Fly Tampa Dubai the VAS available dropped down to 500-600Mb. As I flew away from the city I selected Options - Settings - Display and changed Filtering from Anisotropic to Off. Pressed OK and then went back into the menu and set it back to Anisotropic again. The net gain from this was around 200Mb. I'm enroute to HESH and available VAS is now up to 1072Mb. That's more than enough for my approach and landing. Hope it works for you. :smile: Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 3, 201511 yr Thank you Ray. I have observed similar results by switching from windowed to full screen mode and back. dv Win 10 Pro || i7-8700K || 32GB || ASUS Z370-P MB || NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11Gb || 2 960 PRO 1TB, 840 EVO My Files in the AVSIM Library
April 3, 201511 yr Author Moderator Thanks SAX702. The FS Labs Concorde needs to be used in windowed mode but I'll certainly toggle it and see how much more I can reclaim. :smile: Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 3, 201511 yr Commercial Member If you run Windowed Mode,you can also resize the window (even slightly) and that will accomplish the same thing. Dave Hodges System Specs: I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.
April 3, 201511 yr Author Moderator Thanks Dave. That got me some back too. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 3, 201511 yr I have observed similar results by switching from windowed to full screen mode and back. The FS Labs Concorde needs to be used in windowed mode but I'll certainly toggle it and see how much more I can reclaim If you run Windowed Mode,you can also resize the window (even slightly) and that will accomplish the same thing. Thanks Ray for your OP and findings and thanks SAX702 and Dave for your interesting observations. It really does seem to free up a lot of VAS during a flight and especially I like the fact that you can gain more during the approach/landing phases of your flight. I tested it in P3D and found the same increases in VAS using these methods. I flew a short route from FSDT Chicago to Taxi2Gate St Louis in ASN weather (turned out to be heavy weather at St Louis) with ProATC-X and MSEv2 photoscenery in the PMDG 737NGX. I got significant increases during the descent and landing phases as recorded in the fsuipc.log: ********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.939g by Pete Dowson ********* Reading options from "K:\Prepar3D v2\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini" Running inside Prepar3D v2 on Windows 7 Module base=5BA30000 User Name="James Young" User Addr= FSUIPC4 Key is provided WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired 31 System time = 03/04/2015 11:26:34 31 FLT path = "C:\Users\JimY\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\" 31 Trying K:\Prepar3D v2\Modules\SimConnectP3D2.dll 31 Found it: trying to connect 31 FS path = "K:\Prepar3D v2\" 172 LogOptions=00000000 00000001 172 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok 172 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained 172 --- FS Controls Table located ok 172 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok. 172 --- Wind smoothing fix is fully installed 172 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay 172 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D 29750 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v2", Version: 2.5.12943.0 (SimConnect: 2.5.0.0) 29750 Initialising SimConnect data requests now 29750 FSUIPC Menu entry added 29750 C:\Users\JimY\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Prepar3D_Default.fxml 29750 K:\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.air 30186 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3280024 39921 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3021396 49905 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3061996 59951 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2948076 70840 K:\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-900NGX WL\B737-900WL.air 90403 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2720656 100449 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2713196 110683 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2712656 120729 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2714652 130557 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2412492 140776 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2413276 150775 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2412592 160744 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2412932 180946 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2262740 190945 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2101332 200945 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2085652 210898 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2080232 221210 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2080744 231178 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2070540 241162 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2046788 251146 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2006552 261271 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1855856 268899 System time = 03/04/2015 11:31:03, Simulator time = 10:27:06 (16:27Z) 268899 Aircraft="PMDG 737-900NGX PMDG House Winglets" 269804 Weather Mode now = Theme 271192 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1366196 274359 Starting everything now ... 274812 ASN active function link set 274812 Ready for ASN WX radar 275498 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled 281161 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1374948 291207 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1398572 301223 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1398100 311269 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1370740 321300 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1319624 331362 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1280668 341377 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1309276 351392 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1280656 361455 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1319672 371501 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1297356 373217 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 106 secs = 25.1 fps 381625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1307520 401843 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305076 411827 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305080 421811 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305132 432045 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301212 442029 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301240 452013 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1300728 461997 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1300712 472231 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301224 482043 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1346232 492059 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1345848 502089 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1346744 512136 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1281676 522182 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1336568 532229 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1336552 542291 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1340216 552322 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1376740 561448 C:\Users\JimY\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\KORDKSTLCLR.pln 562337 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1376852 572352 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1377344 582399 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1377364 602445 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373232 612491 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373764 622538 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373756 632600 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373224 642631 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373268 652693 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1368244 662692 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1364104 672723 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1309360 682739 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1309300 692801 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1333972 702816 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1285352 712816 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1294928 722846 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1284192 732877 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1327284 742971 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1240392 753001 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1294424 763017 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1304288 773032 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1315172 783063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1326472 793094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1326432 803156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1332688 813202 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1321664 823233 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1322568 833311 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1320104 843342 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1341140 853357 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1333156 863403 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1333868 873450 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1333080 893558 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1326240 903574 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1314664 913604 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1282588 923635 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1260704 933666 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1259376 943713 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1251256 953744 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1245644 963743 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1244840 973790 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1248592 983789 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1249120 993820 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1279048 1003851 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1298492 1013898 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1300600 1023913 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1328172 1044021 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1327092 1064114 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1332564 1074129 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1330060 1084176 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1323220 1094176 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1267896 1104238 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1309632 1114300 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1313736 1124331 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1304792 1134393 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302048 1144439 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1332128 1154501 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1332528 1164532 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1331160 1174610 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1306020 1184656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1303968 1204749 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1280792 1214811 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1294552 1224842 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1304512 1234904 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1297032 1244904 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311384 1254966 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1300260 1265012 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1282184 1275074 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1277612 1284762 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 807 secs = 30.7 fps 1285199 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1277608 1295121 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1271608 1305151 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1267380 1405522 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1210756 1505956 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1106312 1606436 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1084296 1706745 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1118316 1807100 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1086848 1907502 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060296 2015674 C:\Users\JimY\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\KORDKSTLAPP.pln 2108307 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1074564 2268910 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1071912 2339142 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1062424 = 1.01 GB 2399342 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 965236 = .92052 GB or 943MB Went from Windowed to Full Screen 2409358 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1039708 2509697 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1031204 2569914 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007540 = 984MB 2579976 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 986336 2589976 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 939016 2600022 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 915760 2610069 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 904816 2620068 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 873244 2630146 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893784 2650161 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893656 2660192 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 897312 2680269 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893312 = 872MB Went from Full Screen to Windowed 2690331 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1008484 2700378 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1002284 2710455 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1019556 2720486 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1019044 2730548 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1019556 2740595 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1026632 2750625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1029848 2760703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1039424 2780765 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1040472 = 1016MB 2790796 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1038108 2800811 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1035876 2810857 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1033824 2820935 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 976264 2830950 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 988584 2840966 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 992256 2851012 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 995224 2861043 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 995676 2871089 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 995716 2881136 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 994100 2891167 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 991360 2901213 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 881236 2911228 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 878048 2921244 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 875308 2931290 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 873924 2941321 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 898980 = 878MB Went from Windowed to Full Screen 2951368 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1020004 2961414 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1010720 2971460 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1006380 2981476 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1006132 2991507 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007688 = 984MB 3001522 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007176 Went from Full Screen to Windowed and stated at Windowed 3011615 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 872304 3021630 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 866424 3031708 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 866148 3041739 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 868768 3051801 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 865748 3061801 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 862440 3071816 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 856376 3081878 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853896 3091924 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 856988 3101940 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 931604 3111971 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 932752 3121986 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 934764 3132017 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893056 3142063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849152 3152063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 856176 3162109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853732 3172140 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 862676 3182187 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 861556 3192233 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 861992 3202280 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 877092 3212326 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 880704 3222341 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 881240 3232388 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 858300 3242450 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 906612 3252465 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 895380 3262496 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894860 3272542 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 885652 3282589 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 867028 3292635 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 875956 3302682 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 875444 3312744 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 875956 3322790 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 882136 3332821 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 880852 3343102 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 2053 secs = 29.8 fps 3356159 System time = 03/04/2015 12:22:30, Simulator time = 11:27:52 (17:27Z) 3356159 *** FSUIPC log file being closed Minimum frame rate was 12.5 fps, Maximum was 71.2 fps Minimum available memory recorded was 829Mb Average frame rate for running time of 2965 secs = 29.8 fps Memory managed: 1420 Allocs, 1420 Freed ********* FSUIPC Log file closed *********** I think this will help a lot of people who are having issues with OOM's and the lack of VAS. Best regards, Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
April 3, 201511 yr Author Moderator Hi Jim, By my calculations the best increase you got was around 115Mb toggling the window state. Did you try switching anisotropic filtering off and on? I got around 200Mb increase. I'm surprised these tips haven't been more widely discussed. They're not a life saver. I still ran out of memory approaching Dubai in Concorde but at other less hungry airports it should be possible to land and park without running out of VAS. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 3, 201511 yr Hopefully a good cure for VAS. Maybe this should be pinned? Ryzen 9 7900X, AsRock Taichi B650e, MSI RTX 4070 Ti Super, 32GB G Skill Flare, 850W PSU, 4TB WD 850 SSD, Win 11 Pro, 27" 1440p MSI monitor
April 3, 201511 yr Thx Ray for starting this thread going to have to write these down for the next time I fly and post on my screen so I wont forget to test it I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
April 4, 201511 yr Hi Ray, Thanks to you and the others here for the encouraging tips. What technique / software do you use to monitor your VAS remaining. Best regards, Ken Ken Boardman
April 4, 201511 yr What technique / software do you use to monitor your VAS remaining. If you got the t7 installed than its in the introduction manual on how to monitor your vas but here is the link to see how much vas your using https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
April 4, 201511 yr Peter, I've been using Process Explorer for several months to spot check memory usage. But what Ray stated above gave me the impression that he was using a different technique than PE to accurately determine remaining / available VAS. Ken Ken Boardman
April 4, 201511 yr Author Moderator Hi Ray, Thanks to you and the others here for the encouraging tips. What technique / software do you use to monitor your VAS remaining. Best regards, Ken Hi Ken, Rather than monitor how much VAS I have used I'd rather see how much remains. I talked to Pete Dowson about this and he wrote a LUA plugin which monitors both remaining VAS and current frame rate. Because I use WideFS I run this utility on a separate PC in a small window. You can download it from the AvSim Library here. http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=181957 Here's what the display shows... Of course if you don't use WideFS you can monitor current VAS by logging offset 024C Type 32 within FSUIPC and output the result to the FSX Title Bar. You would then need to divide the number by 1024 to get the value in Mb. Here is a useful link on how to set it up... http://flightsimeindhoven.nl/?p=10503 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 4, 201511 yr We also have information in the AVSIM CTD Guide on how to monitor VAS and the settings required in the fsuipc utility. There's also a link to a byte converter. Best regards, Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
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