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How to reclaim VAS

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Many of you might be aware of this already but for those who aren't I've found a way of reclaiming up to 200Mb of VAS which may be the difference between getting an OOM and not. This is with the MS version of FSX.

Flying FS Labs Concorde-X out of Fly Tampa Dubai the VAS available dropped down to 500-600Mb. As I flew away from the city I selected Options - Settings - Display and changed Filtering from Anisotropic to Off. Pressed OK and then went back into the menu and set it back to Anisotropic again.

 

The net gain from this was around 200Mb. I'm enroute to HESH and available VAS is now up to 1072Mb. That's more than enough for my approach and landing.

 

Hope it works for you. :smile:

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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Thank you Ray.  I have observed similar results by switching from windowed to full screen mode and back.  

 

 

dv

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Excellent tip - will try both of these out - thanks!

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Thanks SAX702. The FS Labs Concorde needs to be used in windowed mode but I'll certainly toggle it and see how much more I can reclaim. :smile:

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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If you run Windowed Mode,you can also resize the window (even slightly) and that will accomplish the same thing.

Dave Hodges

 

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Thanks Dave. That got me some back too.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

I have observed similar results by switching from windowed to full screen mode and back.

The FS Labs Concorde needs to be used in windowed mode but I'll certainly toggle it and see how much more I can reclaim

If you run Windowed Mode,you can also resize the window (even slightly) and that will accomplish the same thing.

Thanks Ray for your OP and findings and thanks SAX702 and Dave for your interesting observations. It really does seem to free up a lot of VAS during a flight and especially I like the fact that you can gain more during the approach/landing phases of your flight.  I tested it in P3D and found the same increases in VAS using these methods.  I flew a short route from FSDT Chicago to Taxi2Gate St Louis in ASN weather (turned out to be heavy weather at St Louis) with ProATC-X and MSEv2 photoscenery in the PMDG 737NGX.  I got significant increases during the descent and landing phases as recorded in the fsuipc.log:

 

 

********* FSUIPC4, Version 4.939g by Pete Dowson *********

Reading options from "K:\Prepar3D v2\Modules\FSUIPC4.ini"

Running inside Prepar3D v2 on Windows 7

Module base=5BA30000

User Name="James Young"

User Addr=

FSUIPC4 Key is provided

WIDEFS7 not user registered, or expired

31 System time = 03/04/2015 11:26:34

31 FLT path = "C:\Users\JimY\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\"

31 Trying K:\Prepar3D v2\Modules\SimConnectP3D2.dll

31 Found it: trying to connect

31 FS path = "K:\Prepar3D v2\"

172 LogOptions=00000000 00000001

172 --- CONTROLS timer memory location obtained ok

172 --- SIM1 Frictions access gained

172 --- FS Controls Table located ok

172 --- Installed Mouse Macro hooks ok.

172 --- Wind smoothing fix is fully installed

172 SimConnect_Open succeeded: waiting to check version okay

172 Trying to use SimConnect Prepar3D

29750 Running in "Lockheed Martin® Prepar3D® v2", Version: 2.5.12943.0 (SimConnect: 2.5.0.0)

29750 Initialising SimConnect data requests now

29750 FSUIPC Menu entry added

29750 C:\Users\JimY\AppData\Local\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v2\Prepar3D_Default.fxml

29750 K:\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\IRIS Raptor Driver\Raptor.air

30186 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3280024

39921 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3021396

49905 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 3061996

59951 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2948076

70840 K:\Prepar3D v2\SimObjects\Airplanes\PMDG 737-900NGX WL\B737-900WL.air

90403 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2720656

100449 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2713196

110683 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2712656

120729 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2714652

130557 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2412492

140776 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2413276

150775 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2412592

160744 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2412932

180946 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2262740

190945 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2101332

200945 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2085652

210898 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2080232

221210 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2080744

231178 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2070540

241162 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2046788

251146 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 2006552

261271 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1855856

268899 System time = 03/04/2015 11:31:03, Simulator time = 10:27:06 (16:27Z)

268899 Aircraft="PMDG 737-900NGX PMDG House Winglets"

269804 Weather Mode now = Theme

271192 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1366196

274359 Starting everything now ...

274812 ASN active function link set

274812 Ready for ASN WX radar

275498 Advanced Weather Interface Enabled

281161 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1374948

291207 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1398572

301223 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1398100

311269 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1370740

321300 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1319624

331362 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1280668

341377 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1309276

351392 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1280656

361455 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1319672

371501 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1297356

373217 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 106 secs = 25.1 fps

381625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1307520

401843 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305076

411827 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305080

421811 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1305132

432045 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301212

442029 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301240

452013 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1300728

461997 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1300712

472231 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1301224

482043 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1346232

492059 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1345848

502089 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1346744

512136 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1281676

522182 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1336568

532229 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1336552

542291 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1340216

552322 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1376740

561448 C:\Users\JimY\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\KORDKSTLCLR.pln

562337 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1376852

572352 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1377344

582399 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1377364

602445 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373232

612491 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373764

622538 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373756

632600 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373224

642631 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1373268

652693 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1368244

662692 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1364104

672723 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1309360

682739 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1309300

692801 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1333972

702816 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1285352

712816 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1294928

722846 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1284192

732877 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1327284

742971 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1240392

753001 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1294424

763017 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1304288

773032 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1315172

783063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1326472

793094 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1326432

803156 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1332688

813202 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1321664

823233 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1322568

833311 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1320104

843342 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1341140

853357 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1333156

863403 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1333868

873450 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1333080

893558 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1326240

903574 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1314664

913604 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1282588

923635 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1260704

933666 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1259376

943713 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1251256

953744 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1245644

963743 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1244840

973790 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1248592

983789 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1249120

993820 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1279048

1003851 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1298492

1013898 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1300600

1023913 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1328172

1044021 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1327092

1064114 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1332564

1074129 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1330060

1084176 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1323220

1094176 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1267896

1104238 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1309632

1114300 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1313736

1124331 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1304792

1134393 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1302048

1144439 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1332128

1154501 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1332528

1164532 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1331160

1174610 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1306020

1184656 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1303968

1204749 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1280792

1214811 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1294552

1224842 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1304512

1234904 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1297032

1244904 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1311384

1254966 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1300260

1265012 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1282184

1275074 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1277612

1284762 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 807 secs = 30.7 fps

1285199 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1277608

1295121 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1271608

1305151 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1267380

1405522 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1210756

1505956 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1106312

1606436 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1084296

1706745 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1118316

1807100 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1086848

1907502 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1060296

2015674 C:\Users\JimY\Documents\Prepar3D v2 Files\KORDKSTLAPP.pln

2108307 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1074564

2268910 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1071912

2339142 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1062424 = 1.01 GB

2399342 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 965236 = .92052 GB or 943MB

Went from Windowed to Full Screen

2409358 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1039708

2509697 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1031204

2569914 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007540 = 984MB

2579976 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 986336

2589976 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 939016

2600022 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 915760

2610069 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 904816

2620068 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 873244

2630146 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893784

2650161 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893656

2660192 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 897312

2680269 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893312 = 872MB

Went from Full Screen to Windowed

2690331 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1008484

2700378 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1002284

2710455 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1019556

2720486 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1019044

2730548 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1019556

2740595 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1026632

2750625 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1029848

2760703 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1039424

2780765 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1040472 = 1016MB

2790796 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1038108

2800811 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1035876

2810857 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1033824

2820935 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 976264

2830950 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 988584

2840966 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 992256

2851012 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 995224

2861043 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 995676

2871089 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 995716

2881136 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 994100

2891167 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 991360

2901213 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 881236

2911228 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 878048

2921244 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 875308

2931290 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 873924

2941321 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 898980 = 878MB

Went from Windowed to Full Screen

2951368 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1020004

2961414 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1010720

2971460 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1006380

2981476 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1006132

2991507 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007688 = 984MB

3001522 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 1007176

Went from Full Screen to Windowed and stated at Windowed

3011615 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 872304

3021630 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 866424

3031708 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 866148

3041739 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 868768

3051801 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 865748

3061801 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 862440

3071816 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 856376

3081878 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853896

3091924 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 856988

3101940 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 931604

3111971 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 932752

3121986 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 934764

3132017 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 893056

3142063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 849152

3152063 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 856176

3162109 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 853732

3172140 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 862676

3182187 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 861556

3192233 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 861992

3202280 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 877092

3212326 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 880704

3222341 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 881240

3232388 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 858300

3242450 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 906612

3252465 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 895380

3262496 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 894860

3272542 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 885652

3282589 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 867028

3292635 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 875956

3302682 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 875444

3312744 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 875956

3322790 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 882136

3332821 Monitor IPC:024C (S32) = 880852

3343102 Sim stopped: average frame rate for last 2053 secs = 29.8 fps

3356159 System time = 03/04/2015 12:22:30, Simulator time = 11:27:52 (17:27Z)

3356159 *** FSUIPC log file being closed

Minimum frame rate was 12.5 fps, Maximum was 71.2 fps

Minimum available memory recorded was 829Mb

Average frame rate for running time of 2965 secs = 29.8 fps

Memory managed: 1420 Allocs, 1420 Freed

********* FSUIPC Log file closed ***********

 

 

 

I think this will help a lot of people who are having issues with OOM's and the lack of VAS.

 

Best regards,

Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource!

Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001

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Hi Jim,

 

By my calculations the best increase you got was around 115Mb toggling the window state. Did you try switching anisotropic filtering off and on? I got around 200Mb increase.

 

I'm surprised these tips haven't been more widely discussed. They're not a life saver. I still ran out of memory approaching Dubai in Concorde but at other less hungry airports it should be possible to land and park without running out of VAS.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

Hopefully a good cure for VAS.

 

Maybe this should be pinned? 

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Thx  Ray  for  starting  this thread  going  to have  to write  these  down  for the next time   I fly  and  post on my screen  so I wont  forget  to test  it

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Peter kelberg

Hi Ray,

  Thanks to you and the others here for the encouraging tips.

  What technique / software do you use to monitor your VAS remaining.

Best regards,

Ken

Ken Boardman

 

What technique / software do you use to monitor your VAS remaining.

 

If you got  the t7  installed  than its in the introduction manual  on how to monitor  your  vas  but  here is  the link  to  see how much vas  your using

 

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

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Peter kelberg

Peter,

I've been using Process Explorer for several months to spot check memory usage.  But what Ray stated above gave me the impression that

he was using a different technique than PE to accurately determine remaining / available VAS.

Ken

Ken Boardman

 

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Hi Ray,

  Thanks to you and the others here for the encouraging tips.

  What technique / software do you use to monitor your VAS remaining.

Best regards,

Ken

 

Hi Ken,

 

Rather than monitor how much VAS I have used I'd rather see how much remains. I talked to Pete Dowson about this and he wrote a LUA plugin which monitors both remaining VAS and current frame rate.

 

Because I use WideFS I run this utility on a separate PC in a small window. You can download it from the AvSim Library here. http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=181957

 

Here's what the display shows...

 

VASMonitor.jpg

 

Of course if you don't use WideFS you can monitor current VAS by logging offset 024C Type 32 within FSUIPC and output the result to the FSX Title Bar. You would then need to divide the number by 1024 to get the value in Mb.

 

Here is a useful link on how to set it up... http://flightsimeindhoven.nl/?p=10503

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

We also have information in the AVSIM CTD Guide on how to monitor VAS and the settings required in the fsuipc utility.  There's also a link to a byte converter.

 

Best regards,

Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource!

Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001

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