June 4, 201511 yr The topic says it all, please explain why. I like doing short flights into short runways. Lionhart LEarjet Carenado Phenom Carenado Hawker Carenado Citation Eaglesoft Citation X I prefer to have decent systems depth and to be able to use Saitek radio and Multi Panel with the aircraft. I will also be using in Prepar3d
June 4, 201511 yr I asked a similar question over in the P3D forum a little while back: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/467892-good-p3d-bizjet/ If you want systems depth (which was one of my biggies), I'd wait for the Flight 1 Citation Mustang or the Eaglesoft Citation XLS. None of the existing jets seemed particularly convincing (and definitely not the Carenado ones!)...
June 4, 201511 yr While not technically a jet, the MU-2 is great for short hops into short fields. I routinely fly it into 3000ft gravel strips in Alaska. Most of the bugs have been ironed out and a 3rd party is working to help improve the FDE. And it's just about as fast as a lot of small business jets. I commonly get ground speeds of 310-340 at FL260. Matt Bernard20+ Years Commercial/GA A&P/PLST
June 4, 201511 yr While not technically a jet, the MU-2 is great for short hops into short fields. I routinely fly it into 3000ft gravel strips in Alaska. Most of the bugs have been ironed out and a 3rd party is working to help improve the FDE. And it's just about as fast as a lot of small business jets. I commonly get ground speeds of 310-340 at FL260. That's a thought..... If you are happy to consider fast turboprops, the Real Air Turbine Duke is an absolute corker and a little bit of high quality greased lightning. Not that this helps if you are imagining dropping some Hollywood A-lister off for their Oscars appearance..... :blink:
June 4, 201511 yr Flight 1 Mustang, the only problem is a P3D version has not been announce yet, but it would be worth waiting for if Jim decides to move it over to P3D. If you like flying into short strips I don't think the Learjet is your ticket, although it is a fun aircraft to fly. Cheers Martin
June 4, 201511 yr Author Thanks for the thoughts, I already have the turbine duke and now and I LOVE it. I am just looking for something that can go higher/faster for longer trips when needed. I guess by short strips I mean 4000'-4500' runways. Where I live I see Citations, Gulfstreams, Learjets, Phenoms etc. landing/departing all day long off that length. I suppose I shouldn't need to land anywhere shorter.
June 4, 201511 yr Systems depth? Pretty much the only option is the dated C750 if you're using P3D. Actually I'm not even sure that's P3D capable. Doesn't really meet the short strips requirement though. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
June 4, 201511 yr If you want to fly fast and high, then the Learjet is the one. I have it with the GTN750 installed and it's a lot of fun to fly. And you should be able to get it stopped by 4,500 ft :blink:
June 4, 201511 yr Author If you want to fly fast and high, then the Learjet is the one. I have it with the GTN750 installed and it's a lot of fun to fly. And you should be able to get it stopped by 4,500 ft :blink: Can you integrate the GPS into the main panel, or does it have to be used as a pop-up?
June 4, 201511 yr It can be intergrated into the main panel, it's small but the click spot works for a pop-up when needed. Bert Pieke did the mod and I think it's available over at simforums GTN forum.
June 4, 201511 yr If you fly into short runways the Hawker isn't for you. The Lear is great for short hops because it will climb to cruise very quickly. The C550 is a good one but is pretty slow. The Phenom is slow,frame rate eater,and needs a long runway and about 70% of N1 to taxi.The Eaglesoft Citation X's interior and exterior is very dated and looks like somthing from FS2004. ATP MEL,CFI,CFII,MEI. Type Ratings B-737, ERJ-190,ERJ-170
June 4, 201511 yr Author Thanks so much for all the input. I think I will buy the Lear while it is on sale, I'm awaiting an email from the developer since I can't find out if the Saitek multi-panel works with it or not.
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June 5, 201511 yr Author Is there a sale going on now? I believe so, it is on the bargain forum and it is only $26 I believe, not sure how much it usually is. I got an email back from the developer just now though and the Saitek stuff isn't compatible so I'm out. I can't click around with a mouse the entire flight.
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