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The topic says it all, please explain why. I like doing short flights into short runways.

 

Lionhart LEarjet

Carenado Phenom

Carenado Hawker

Carenado Citation

Eaglesoft Citation X

 

I prefer to have decent systems depth and to be able to use Saitek radio and Multi Panel with the aircraft.

 

I will also be using in Prepar3d

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I asked a similar question over in the P3D forum a little while back:

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/467892-good-p3d-bizjet/

 

If you want systems depth (which was one of my biggies), I'd wait for the Flight 1 Citation Mustang or the Eaglesoft Citation XLS.  None of the existing jets seemed particularly convincing (and definitely not the Carenado ones!)...

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While not technically a jet, the MU-2 is great for short hops into short fields. I routinely fly it into 3000ft gravel strips in Alaska. Most of the bugs have been ironed out and a 3rd party is working to help improve the FDE. And it's just about as fast as a lot of small business jets. I commonly get ground speeds of 310-340 at FL260.

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While not technically a jet, the MU-2 is great for short hops into short fields. I routinely fly it into 3000ft gravel strips in Alaska. Most of the bugs have been ironed out and a 3rd party is working to help improve the FDE. And it's just about as fast as a lot of small business jets. I commonly get ground speeds of 310-340 at FL260.

 

That's a thought.....

 

If you are happy to consider fast turboprops, the Real Air Turbine Duke is an absolute corker and a little bit of high quality greased lightning.

 

Not that this helps if you are imagining dropping some Hollywood A-lister off for their Oscars appearance.....   :blink:

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Flight 1 Mustang, the only problem is a P3D version has not been announce yet, but it would be worth waiting for if Jim decides to move it over to P3D. If you like flying into short strips I don't think the Learjet is your ticket, although it is a fun aircraft to fly.

 

Cheers

Martin

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Thanks for the thoughts, I already have the turbine duke and now and I LOVE it. I am just looking for something that can go higher/faster for longer trips when needed.

 

I guess by short strips I mean 4000'-4500' runways. Where I live I see Citations, Gulfstreams, Learjets, Phenoms etc. landing/departing all day long off that length. I suppose I shouldn't need to land anywhere shorter.

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Systems depth?

 

Pretty much the only option is the dated C750 if you're using P3D. Actually I'm not even sure that's P3D capable.

 

Doesn't really meet the short strips requirement though.

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I was going to say the Eaglesoft CX, but I don't believe there is a P3D version.

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If you want to fly fast and high, then the Learjet is the one. I have it with the GTN750 installed and it's a lot of fun to fly. And you should be able to get it stopped by 4,500 ft  :blink:

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If you want to fly fast and high, then the Learjet is the one. I have it with the GTN750 installed and it's a lot of fun to fly. And you should be able to get it stopped by 4,500 ft  :blink:

 

Can you integrate the GPS into the main panel, or does it have to be used as a pop-up?

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It can be intergrated into the main panel, it's small but the click spot works for a pop-up when needed. Bert Pieke did the mod and I think it's available over at simforums GTN forum.

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If you fly into short runways the Hawker isn't for you. The Lear is great for short hops because it will climb to cruise very quickly. The C550 is a good one but is pretty slow. The Phenom is slow,frame rate eater,and needs a long runway and about 70% of N1 to taxi.The Eaglesoft Citation X's interior and exterior is very dated and looks like somthing from FS2004.

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Thanks so much for all the input. I think I will buy the Lear while it is on sale, I'm awaiting an email from the developer since I can't find out if the Saitek multi-panel works with it or not.

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Is there a sale going on now?

 

I believe so, it is on the bargain forum and it is only $26 I believe, not sure how much it usually is.

 

I got an email back from the developer just now though and the Saitek stuff isn't compatible so I'm out. I can't click around with a mouse the entire flight.

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I got an email back from the developer just now though and the Saitek stuff isn't compatible so I'm out. I can't click around with a mouse the entire flight.

 

Does the Multiplanel work with LINDA? 

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I believe so, it is on the bargain forum and it is only $26 I believe, not sure how much it usually is.

 

 

 

For reference....I purchased the Lear Jet for $20.97 during their December sale last year.  5 bucks more is still a good deal if you want to purchase today.

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Two treads going, I posted in the other one.

 

Regards,

Ray

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Gutting the systems of an airplane and replacing it with a GTN is unrealistic. We really need a modern small jet with system modeling.

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To the OP, I'd save your money and wait for two upcoming gems.  Check this out:

 

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/469593-for-which-ga-airplanes-would-you-pay-for-a-version-2/page-2

 

The Eaglesoft Citation X 3.0 and Citation XLS+ 3.0 are coming and will both likely be P3D compatible.  These are the aircraft you're looking for.  Nobody does biz jets like the Eaglesoft guys.  

 

-Elliot

Having an airplane to fly this summer would be nice, those airplanes are a long way away. Later this year if that.

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Having an airplane to fly this summer would be nice, those airplanes are a long way away. Later this year if that.

 

I'd love to have one.  We now have several business jets with poor systems.  In therms of the decent ones, I've got the Mustang tuned to as good as I can without help from Flight1.  It works pretty well as long as you write your flightplan in stone and don't monkey with the SIDs and STARs once it's in.  I could probably make the landing nicer but what's the point if it only works with FSX.  I'm of a mind that I might give the Eaglesoft Citation X another try...see if I can crack through the hardware issue again.

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As the guy building the XLS+ model I can assure you that nobody wants to see it finished more than me! :lol:

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I'm of a mind that I might give the Eaglesoft Citation X another try...see if I can crack through the hardware issue again.

 

PM me when you get round to setting it up, I will help where I can with the mouse macro's.

I got everything working through those without to much trouble.

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