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Amazing,Free online flight planner! It exports plans in many formats inc PMDG.RTE

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An amazing online flight planner,it'll even export in PMDG .RTE plus many others including Aerosoft Airbus files, does fuel calculations,programs SIDS and STARS too all for FREE


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  • Hi there, I just used the 

    that works very well, as z06z33 wrote. it's a very nice flight planner. I made a plan from LPPT-LFPO. I see that the route does not go straight from arpt to artp. I compared with "Routefinder which is exactly the same. Now my question is;  why does the route go far around on both plans?  I thought to save fuel it should go straight.  Do dispatchers in the real world do plans like that?  Maybe because of some kind of constrains?  Can someone shed some light here?

 

Thanks in advance.

       johngoncalves

 

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Thanks for the Link (s), I did not see that it can suggest SID and STAR, did I miss something ?

 

One free solution for SID STAR is FS Commander. (the free trial version works 20-30 min and won't export) I like that FSC shows them on screen as route- easy to see and choose the one I want.

cheers

alf

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A better solution for flight planning is to actually look at the real world charts.

 

DJ

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A better solution for flight planning is to actually look at the real world charts.

 

DJ

 

 

Exactly

 

I use the charts in Navigraph Charts and manually plot my courses using Plan-G from the charts

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  • Hi there, I just used the 

    http://onlineflightplanner.org/

    that works very well, as z06z33 wrote. it's a very nice flight planner. I made a plan from LPPT-LFPO. I see that the route does not go straight from arpt to artp. I compared with "Routefinder which is exactly the same. Now my question is;  why does the route go far around on both plans?  I thought to save fuel it should go straight.  Do dispatchers in the real world do plans like that?  Maybe because of some kind of constrains?  Can someone shed some light here?

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  • Thanks in advance.

johngoncalves

 

Just uncheck the SID and the STAR options and you should get a straighter route. SIDS/STARS are descriptions of routing that include waypoints as reference that are not overflied. To include those in the Flight Plan can take you miles off course.

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A better solution for flight planning is to actually look at the real world charts.

 

DJ

I'm far to lazy for that lol. I basicly just want to hop in the plane load a .Rte file in the FMC. Push back,start up and blast off. If I'm flying in the real world I'll take the time to plan a flight out but I'm not gonna take the time to do it in a sim.

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I'm far to lazy for that lol. I basicly just want to hop in the plane load a .Rte file in the FMC. Push back,start up and blast off. If I'm flying in the real world I'll take the time to plan a flight out but I'm not gonna take the time to do it in a sim.

 

Just done a quick EGKK-LSGG route. No SIDs or STARs in the flight plan (nor departure or arrival runways, which the SIDs and STARSs depend on).

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Just done a quick EGKK-LSGG route. No SIDs or STARs in the flight plan (nor departure or arrival runways, which the SIDs and STARSs depend on).

OFP is not aware of the current weather and active runways. That is up to the PIC. Then fly your own SID and STAR.

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OFP is not aware of the current weather and active runways. That is up to the PIC. Then fly your own SID and STAR.

 

This is more based on the fact that the OP said the following:

 

 

 

does fuel calculations,programs SIDS and STARS too 

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OFP DOES provide a SID and STAR. It just may not be an accurate data point based on the active runways, which are based on the local weather conditions none of which OFP has knowledge of.

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So you're saying that the following plan (EGKK-LSGG)

 

ID Frequency Track Distance (nm) Coordinates Name/Remarks

EGKK - 0 0 N51°08'53.00" W000°11'25.00" LONDON GATWICK

BOGNA - 184 27 N50°42'07.00" W000°15'06.00" BOGNA

BENBO - 145 18 N50°27'05.00" E000°00'37.00" BENBO

HAWKE - 145 6 N50°22'27.00" E000°05'25.00" HAWKE

XAMAB - 145 12 N50°12'16.00" E000°15'53.00" XAMAB

VEULE - 145 25 N49°51'24.00" E000°37'12.00" VEULE

INPAX - 140 35 N49°24'29.00" E001°10'47.00" INPAX

RESMI - 141 64 N48°34'07.00" E002°11'31.00" RESMI

ODEBU - 134 24 N48°16'52.00" E002°37'34.00" ODEBU

OGULO - 155 4 N48°13'06.00" E002°40'09.00" OGULO

LUSAR - 131 138 N46°40'08.00" E005°10'46.00" LUSAR

LSGG

 

Would be read as "find a BOGNA SID and LUSAR STAR"?

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Sure it would but it might not be the SID and STAR for the active runway. What runway is BOGNA for? What runway is LUSAR for?

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A planner needs to select the most likely runways in use depending on weather and so on. Next the planner needs to compare the SIDs and STARs and select the most appropriate for the runways. Next the plan should attempt to bridge the SID exit and the STAR entrance, along the appropriate airways. Finally, since not all the waypoints are fly over, the planner can at least put some appropriate waypoints in, the IDF and FAF would be nice.

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BOGNA SIDs are  1M 1V (SID ICAO) which are identical for RWYs 26L and 26R, and 1X (RNAV1 (DME/DME or GNAA) SID ICAO) which is only from RWY 26L

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Just 2 days ago I came across Efass flight planner.

There are some not so good reviews from 1 or 2 years ago but this seems to be a updated fixed version. 

http://froom.de/efass/

" EFASS is free. After 14 days you can decide, if you want to pay for EFASS, or if you want to continue using the free version. All you need is an EFASS-Account that you can create during the installation process."

I used it for a few flights and it works for me very well, quick, easy , including SID and STAR, moving map, detailed airport view.

don't know yet if I would buy it, as there seems to be no indication yet what the price is, but for now it's my favourite.

cheers

alf

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With respect to  EFASS, there are some bugs that various people have reported, including myself, which were never fixed.  So, check it out fully before you buy.  I got PPFX instead and have been just as happy with it.

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