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Upgrading FSX to Prepar3d - must I purchase the aircraft again?

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Hi all,

 

If I make the switch from FSX to Prepar3d, will I need to purchase the B738 Base Package again specific for this platform?

 

It appears in my PMDG website downloads page that the only version I have access to is for FSX/Steam.

 

Thanks!

 

 

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Remember, your are not "upgrading" from FSX to P3D. You are changing your simulation platform from an entertainment platform to a training and learning platform. The "upgrade" to FSX is FSX - Steam Edition and whatever come after that. Software licensing is a pain, I know... But has to be abided by.

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Remember, your are not "upgrading" from FSX to P3D. You are changing your simulation platform from an entertainment platform to a training and learning platform. The "upgrade" to FSX is FSX - Steam Edition and whatever come after that. Software licensing is a pain, I know... But has to be abided by.

 

Thank you. I was about to say exactly this.

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Thanks again guys,

 

But do note my choice of words never included the word "upgrading". I used the term "conversion". A common aviation term when switching to a different fleet, as in "type conversion".

 

Also, as my FSX was never used as an "entertainment platform", neither will my Prepar3d be used as one. :smile:

 

Of course we should not imply that FSX is a 'game' just because Prepar3D is not a game. :smile: ​That would insult the FSX community of which I remain a member, at least until P3Dv3 is launched in the [hopefully] near future. :P ​

 

 

 

Edit: Sorry - I just see the way I wrote the title. That's where I used "Upgrading"

My bad. I got it right in the body of the post at least! I'll have to take one for the team. :wink:

 

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Of course we should not imply that FSX is a 'game' just because Prepar3D is not a game. ​That would insult the FSX community of which I remain a member, at least until P3Dv3 is launched in the [hopefully] near future. ​

 

Unfortunately, actual real world usage is a grey area, I am sure many people use FSX for more serious learning just as many people use P3D for entertainment. (And should not be) I don't really see either as traditional "gaming." That's all I will say about the whole P3D vs FSX minefield. =@

 

 

 


Edit: Sorry - I just see the way I wrote the title. That's where I used "Upgrading"
My bad. I got it right in the body of the post at least! I'll have to take one for the team.

 

Well said! And well done for admitting a mistake. That's rare on most forums. :hi:

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Unfortunately, actual real world usage is a grey area, I am sure many people use FSX for more serious learning just as many people use P3D for entertainment. (And should not be) I don't really see either as traditional "gaming." That's all I will say about the whole P3D vs FSX minefield.

 

All the same, what business is it of yours?

 

Whether here in the PMDG forum or elsewhere on AVSIM, I see that these licensing topics get shut down... as well they should be. But an undertone that seems to go unchecked and unfettered is all of this criticism and speculation regarding who's doing what with a given simulator.

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All the same, what business is it of yours?

 

Whether here in the PMDG forum or elsewhere on AVSIM, I see that these licensing topics get shut down... as well they should be. But an undertone that seems to go unchecked and unfettered is all of this criticism and speculation regarding who's doing what with a given simulator.

 

No comment.

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All the same, what business is it of yours?

 

Whether here in the PMDG forum or elsewhere on AVSIM, I see that these licensing topics get shut down... as well they should be. But an undertone that seems to go unchecked and unfettered is all of this criticism and speculation regarding who's doing what with a given simulator.

 

The licensing topics get shut down because people begin to parse through the EULA and tell people what is valid and what is not valid (legal advice v legal information). In other words, people can provide links to information that would assist them in making decisions with legal implications, but they cannot offer to interpret it for them without a license. A lot of the posts here blurred that line, so they got shut down. The LM site is very clear on the matter, but whether someone's individual use fits into one of those categories provided by LM is their own determination (or in conjunction with their legal counsel, if that's applicable).

 

Wes was only sharing his observations and ideas - note the use of "I am sure of" instead of more absolute/factual terms. The only time an absolute was when an absolute was known. You'll note that he did not tell anyone what to, or what not to do - again, that's their own determination, and only an issue between LM and that individual. He may have walked close to the line, but he certainly didn't cross it in my eyes.

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Thank you. I was about to say exactly this.

Hi Kyle, I was wondering, could I transfer my fsx license on the PMDG NGX (with expansion) from fsx to P3D and pay whatever difference (disabling it on FSX and enabling for P3D)? I don't want to continue with FSX anymore. Thanks for your response.

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Hi Kyle, I was wondering, could I transfer my fsx license on the PMDG NGX (with expansion) from fsx to P3D and pay whatever difference (disabling it on FSX and enabling for P3D)? I don't want to continue with FSX anymore. Thanks for your response.

 

Would've helped to read the post before asking this.

 

Licenses cannot be transferred.

 

Additionally, formal requests need to go to our official support site at support.precisionmanuals.com (though you will get the same response there if you ask for a license transfer).

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Ah, OK, thanks John. The conversion to P3D just became a little more costly.

it will be definitely a little more costly then anticipated and certain things dont make over.

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You'll be impressed with the differences (improvements) between the FSX and Prepar3D versions of PMDG's 737 & 777. Well worth paying full price again

 

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certain things dont make over.

 

I didn't find anything that I couldn't move over, except of course for those products with license limitations.  All sceneries and airports are working, albeit there is some tricks required for a few but they all made it.  If you run into anything be sure to check out the Prepar3D AVSIM forum next door.

 

There are a few minor issues with some old stuff leftover from FS9 that worked in FSX but does not in P3D such as certain lighting tricks for scenery. These have not affected many users.

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You'll be impressed with the differences (improvements) between the FSX and Prepar3D versions of PMDG's 737 & 777.

 

I thought they were exactly the same apart from the license?

 

I've looked on the PMDG website and can't see anything that refers to P3D improvements/exclusives.

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The P3D version of the 737NGX has a narrow green strip at the top of the tailfin with "P3D" written in it :P

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Taken too literally, the first major difference most mentioned is the improvement in graphics rendering with DX11.  The in-cockpit shadows are very nice, and the rest of the world looks pretty good too.  There are differences between the products but I think it is mostly under-the-hood stuff that you will not notice. P3Dv2 has a much newer SDK than the old leftover from FS2002 used by FSX, and designers can opt to adopt to that and take advantage of advancement.

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Thanks for the info.

 

I'm hoping to get the 747 along with P3D 3.0 when they are both released and will probably purchase the NGX again for P3D 3.0 too when its compatible etc.Doubt I'll fly the 777 so will give that a miss. If the license was for both FSX and P3D I think I would have bought all 3 aircraft but with the licenses the way they are I will have to be more stringent in my purchasing.

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Based on the last few responses, I'm going to close this one down, as it's looking like it's taking the inevitable nosedive into a bunch of armchair lawyering and baseless opinion casting by people.

 

I'd thought to type out a response again here, but I think we've addressed this topic so many times that you'd be inundated with results if you'd take a moment to search the forum.

 

While the following thread was obviously posted prior to the decision to release products in P3D, it references the difficulties and intricacies of working with that platform:

http://www.avsim.com/topic/426627-a-few-notes-regarding-pmdgs-position-on-p3d-development/

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