Isn't it a bit too late in FS9's lifecycle to go in for an expensive addon like this. Personally, I'd wait for a year(?) and see what FS10 has to offer.Keith

>The error was entirely my fault. I'm not website savy and>having spoke with the hosts representative I was pretty much>convienced that 10gb per day would do the trick...so I bought>in for 3 years! Ouch... I had no idea we'd have such talented>BTs making incredible videos and I had no idea the effect>those videos would have on the bandwidth. Thanks very much for>the suggestions and will certainly look into...printing as I>write...>>Stephen R Stever>BirdsEyeView>Developer>[email protected] about bittorrent for distribution of videos?

For those that were asking for some pics of BEV without add-on landclass, roads, and etc, there are some now on the BEV forums. I believe the only non-default product in the screen shots is the FSGenesis 38m mesh.More to come.Thanks for all the feedback, suggestions and encouragement. Tony=http://www.flightsim-bevs.com]

I'd wait if fs10 was out in a month or two but a year is too long for me!. Also visual add-ons are constantly evolving relative to default graphics.Hopefully there will be more screenshots/videos available before release date, including night-shots, although what i have seen so far BEV looks fairly priced imho.CheersDan

The screenshots look simply amazing. Count me in!!! Looking forward to fly low and slow with this new environment.John

hehehe...Welcome to Avsim.... :-lolDiscredit, no. I am offering suggestions to belay much consumer confusion when they release.Sure, it is up to them what they do with my suggestions. But I saw something that could be implied as misleading with regards to other add-ons compared to what the videos and screenshots represent. If you think that is trolling, I could care less what you think, for it is my opinions. :-)My opinions now before release may save them much heartache after release when someone with only default stuff buys their product without seeing a disclaimer in their forums, and then wonders why his experience differs from the videos. Oh and then he/she needs to spend a few hundred dollars to get the same effect.So as for trolls, you seem to be filling that role very well with your response to me.Enjoy,Sonar5Grab My FREEWARE Voice recognition Profiles here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=58334]Cessna 172 Voice Profile[/a][a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=60740]FSD Avanti Voice Profile[/a].You will need the main FREEWARE Flight Assistant program to use it, get it here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=genutils&DLID=39661]Flight Assistant 2.2[/a]

WOW!Railroads that look like railroads!If this works well with UT and FSGenesis landclass/Mesh as mentioned, this looks like the next thing we will have to get the plastic out for. $12.00 per season looks reasonable to me.Thanks for the heads up.RTH

Hi Stephen,It would be impossible to suggest or recognize a pricepoint until consumers are actually aware of what they are receiving for those dollars.All I have seen is screenshots and videos which are very nice, but are only inclusive with four or five other payware add-ons.In other words, as I suggested, you folks should show videos, possibly split screen showing no-add-ons, and compare that with the default. Or show videos and screenshots with the add-ons but without your product and compare them side by side.You say there are new textures, please compare them with default so we know exactly what you are trying to sell here.I am a comparison buyer, but I really can't discern what you folks are selling until I see relevant comparisons with and without add-ons being used.Then, I'll be happy to offer up what I would consider my expectations of price, which of course may vary from others.Regards,JoeGrab My FREEWARE Voice recognition Profiles here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=58334]Cessna 172 Voice Profile[/a][a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=60740]FSD Avanti Voice Profile[/a].You will need the main FREEWARE Flight Assistant program to use it, get it here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=genutils&DLID=39661]Flight Assistant 2.2[/a]

Thank You Stephen.I appreciate it. Again, I think it looks great, and I'll be looking forward to what you show us.Regards,Joe Grab My FREEWARE Voice recognition Profiles here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=58334]Cessna 172 Voice Profile[/a][a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=60740]FSD Avanti Voice Profile[/a].You will need the main FREEWARE Flight Assistant program to use it, get it here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=genutils&DLID=39661]Flight Assistant 2.2[/a]

I'm actually pulling for this to be a great product, for me to be really happy with it and consider it money well spent, and for you to feel a great deal of personal satisfaction and make bag loads of cash. Don't compromise on quality (and try to bring that pricing down a wee bit if it is fair all around!) I don't begrudge you a thing and appreciate the entrepenuerial spirit. You're entitled to a few gaffs as you learn the ropes as long as (as you have been) you remain open minded and responsive to concerns. Cheers! and Cheers as well to Tony who gamely defended things here until you arrived and could speak more definitively.

Hi Joe,There are some shots now on the BEV forum with everything default but add-on mesh and BEV textures. Not the side-by-side comparion you asked for, but it is something for now.Tony=http://www.flightsim-bevs.com]

Thanks Tony,heading over there now.I didn't see your post below until after I had replied above. :-)Thanks Again,JoeGrab My FREEWARE Voice recognition Profiles here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=58334]Cessna 172 Voice Profile[/a][a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004misc&DLID=60740]FSD Avanti Voice Profile[/a].You will need the main FREEWARE Flight Assistant program to use it, get it here:[a href=http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=genutils&DLID=39661]Flight Assistant 2.2[/a]

Thanks for the encouragement, CowlFlaps Open. I consider Avsim my Flight Sim home, so it is nice to finally talk about BEV here. It is very exciting to be part of something that looks to be huge. The interest and traffic on the website is just incredible, and as Stephen or Koorby pointed out, it has mostly been generated to this point by word of mouth.I am still blown away as I fly with the BEV textures, and it is my sincere hope you are all just as excited when you get to use them as I am. There is a great team of volunteers working with Stephen on this, putting together web-pages, writing PR, posting screen shots and videos, answering questions, moderating forums, testing and providing feedback and just generally trying to make this the best release it can be. Thanks for your understanding as we learn, and keep passing on the feedback.Tony=http://www.flightsim-bevs.com]

>>Nice personal attack. I guess that is the best you can do>when you only offer ATTACKS AND NO SOLUTIONS.>>And I am not jumping on some False alleged proverbial payware>hating bandwagon either.>>I offered several compliments regarding this product, as well>as some suggestions prior to their release.>>And if the payware market is so small as you suggest, why are>servers being overloaded here, at PMDG, and now Birdseye? Very>interesting observation you offered there. :-lol :-lol >:-lol>>But I see you were simply out for a Troll and have nothing to>offer to the situation, so enjoy your Troll. :-lol :-lol >:-lol>>Sonar5>It wasn't a personal attack, it is the truth. You expect everyone to work for free to keep your FS addiction going, and are so quick to insult those who decide to try to make a living off of this hobby. The market is small, just because a server is overloaded only means a few hundred or max a thousand at a time are all trying to access it at once.The only troll with nothing to offer to the situation is someone who will stop at nothing to find every payware thread and spout your insulting comments directed at those who are making a living by bringing this game to such great levels.

For me what would improve the scenery the most would be additions of many trees/forests. The current scenery is so 'flat' because of lack of trees.Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2http://www.precisionmanuals.com/images/forum/747400.jpghttp://www.hifisim.com/images/asv_beta_member.jpg