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How does P3D v3 Perform compared to FSX:SE?

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Hi everyone, hope you're all well!

 

I've been using FSX for a long time now but I want to transition to P3D with it being more up-to-date and advanced etc...

 

Compared to FSX, how well does P3D really run with addon aircraft such as the PMDG 737-800 NGX? I also have scenery installed on FSX that I'd love to be able to run in P3D.

 

Ideally I would want the program to run as smoothly as possible, but to also look as good as possible to give the realistic feel when I fly.

 

My current specs are as follows:

 

Intel Core i7 4790K 4.0 Ghz CPU

16GB Corsair Vengeance RAM

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 GPU

 

How well would you say P3D would run on my system? Would it be better than FSX in terms of frame rates, smoothness, graphics etc...?

 

I am quite new to P3D and have only used it once a while ago for 30 days to test it out, but now that version 3 is out and is said to be a lot better I just want some general advise on whether or not it's worth switching? 

 

Apologies if this is in the incorrect thread, I wasn't sure which one to put it in!

 

Thanks!

-Yorkie

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As a staunch supporter of FSX SE, I should be the last person to comment, especially after a somewhat disappointing encounter with P3D 2.5.......However, I have just purchased P3D v3 and I can tell you it is amazing! The performance, graphics are very superior to 2.5. The only small crit I would make is that the clouds are not as nice as they are in FSX SE. Other than that...Go For It!!

 

My Specs are:-

AMD 8core @ 4.2 ghz, 16gig ram, NVidia GTX780 2gig

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Yeah v3 is a big improvement for me at least. FPS is up and OOM are down. Was great to fly from KDEN (Flightbeam) to KLAX (FSDT) and still have over 800mb memory left.

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Changes made for v3 may cause issues with certain addons. We recommend only using v3-compliant addons with v3.

 

BTW, you would have to re-purchase the PMDG.

 

Other than that, P3D v3 is a major step forward.

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I think what Yorkie is really asking is this

 

""How well would you say P3D would run on my system? Would it be better than FSX in terms of frame rates, smoothness, graphics etc...?""

 

I would say default graphics yes,  Don't know about FPS or smoothness.

 

I don't have FSX Steam,  but a lot of folks say its super stable and very smooth so I'm not sure how this would compare to V3 in terms of smoothness

 

I could be talking nonsense though

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PD3 V3 runs faster than SE but SE runs smoother. PD3 seems to have trouble running smoothly. You get much more eye candy with PD3  for the same fps as SE with less. 

 

I will eventually remove SE and keep PD3 but really wish they could work out the problems with smooth motion. 

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I have the same setup as you do..v3 is great! But am +1 with what Warbirds said.That smoothness is not there yet at 60hz..I run v3 at 30hz it's smooth but when fps fall below 30,stutter,stutter.Scroll down and you will find many threads on v3 smoothness.

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I find the FSX:SE runs smoother and quicker, manages the VAS comparably to P3D v3, and has sharper AA.

 

However, P3D is very pretty if you can suppress the jaggies and texture aliasing.

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I dont have the steam edition but Pv3 is on par with FSX as far as smoothness. plus you get a lot of eye candy options.

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Hi guys, thanks for the help and advice! I'm going to try out P3D and see how I get on :) Thanks again!

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I dont have the steam edition but Pv3 is on par with FSX as far as smoothness. plus you get a lot of eye candy options.

Sorry I should have been more specific, prepar3d v3 is as smooth as FSX (WITH NVIDIA 1/2 REFRESH TWEAK). If you are not using the 1/2 refresh setting then there is NO CONTEST. Prepar3D is smoother. 

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I find the FSX:SE runs smoother and quicker, manages the VAS comparably to P3D v3, and has sharper AA.

 

However, P3D is very pretty if you can suppress the jaggies and texture aliasing.

I'd agree with that. I find the visual clarity of FSX SE better and less washed out than P3d. Frames are on a par and the smoothness is better in FSX SE although you will be missing the shadows and better VAS management. Clouds rendering is one big area however where FSX is streets ahead, oddly.

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I'd agree with that. I find the visual clarity of FSX SE better and less washed out than P3d. Frames are on a par and the smoothness is better in FSX SE although you will be missing the shadows and better VAS management. Clouds rendering is one big area however where FSX is streets ahead, oddly.

Actually if you run FSXSE in DX10 (With the DX10Fixer) the only shadows you'll be missing is the Cloud to ground shadows. As for missing VAS management DTG implemented this in the FSXSE long before LM did in V3, and results are comparable.

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Actually if you run FSXSE in DX10 (With the DX10Fixer) the only shadows you'll be missing is the Cloud to ground shadows. As for missing VAS management DTG implemented this in the FSXSE long before LM did in V3, and results are comparable.

Only cloud to ground shadows? Much more than that, shadows for trees, signs, bushes, vehicles and all planes. 

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Only cloud to ground shadows? Much more than that, shadows for trees, signs, bushes, vehicles and all planes. 

I stand corrected, you're right autogen objects in FSX do not have ground shadowing, although scenery objects do when the ground shadowing option is selected. Trees (At least the ones I use)  have shadowing built in, but they are not dynamic. I'm sure performance is better in P3D with shadowing active as well. It does take quite a hit especially with ground shadows in FSX.

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Hi guys, thanks for the help and advice! I'm going to try out P3D and see how I get on :) Thanks again!

Try it for sure! P3D will also refund the purchase if you don't like it ( Withing 30 days ) so really its a risk free trial!

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Actually if you run FSXSE in DX10 (With the DX10Fixer) the only shadows you'll be missing is the Cloud to ground shadows. As for missing VAS management DTG implemented this in the FSXSE long before LM did in V3, and results are comparable.

I haven't spent too much time with DX10 mode, but I did find the shadows it produces in the VC are not as sharp as those you find in p3d. The ones in the Q400 in particular were very unconvincing sadly.

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I haven't spent too much time with DX10 mode, but I did find the shadows it produces in the VC are not as sharp as those you find in p3d. The ones in the Q400 in particular were very unconvincing sadly.

For most aircraft, including PMDG I have no issues with the VC cockpit shadowing. I do agree with the Q400, seems there is some kind of dual shadowing effect going on between the VC panel and display screens and they conflict with each other.

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Mostly I have found that P3Dv3 runs with higher frames than FSXSE, but to the point of everyone else here, the sharpness of FSXSE is greater than that of P3Dv3. However, P3Dv3 does a better job of shedding VAS during long hauls and approaches in my experience which is a great thing for the continuity of flights. Cloud shadows are a bit hard on any system but add a new layer of immersion not seen in FSXSE. Then of couse the price of ownership which is significantly higher and you have to purchase your PMDG aircraft along with any others that dont offer a single license option for both platforms. My general thoughts are if you have a good performing FSXSE then you may not want to take the plunge on P3Dv3. But if you are really looking to just have something new, P3Dv3 will give that to you with some marginal benefits in terms of lighting, performance and VAS stability and some marginal downsides as well in terms of sharpness, compatibility, and price. 

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So the general consensus is that FSX-SE performs and looks better then P3D.

 

Most likely fsr more add-ons available as well.

 

Sounds like P3D v3 has turned into bit of a dud.

 

Facepalm

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I spent in p3d v1 and the v2... I will skip any further versions until they announce a 64 bit platform.

 

I re-installed FSX:SE, and am back to smoothness. One of the worst buying decisions of my simmer life was to buy the PMDG Base 772 for P3Dv2 when I had it for FSX:SE including the -300 expansion. Gained nothing, lost $130 :-/  Very stupid move....

 

P3D doesn't bring me anything that I do not have in FSX:SE, and although I could fine tune P3dv2.5 very easily to get acceptable performance, I never got rid of the stutters that I do not experience in FSX:SE... and I couldn't care less about having or not cloud shadows...

 

Buying the NGX and all my A2A stuff back ? NO WAY!  And then I couldn't ( shouldn't ) use my preferred A2A warbirds either...

 

My opinion, if you have a good / stable FSX:SE install, with not too many complex scenery / landclass / messh add-ons - stay with it

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Sounds like P3D v3 has turned into bit of a dud.

 

Does mommy let you play at the commuter for long or maybe only after your  homework :) 

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Jcomm mentioned his mediocre experience with P3D v2, but I have to say as a v3 owner, it is way better than both FSX:SE and P3D v2.

 

I am running PMDG + FTX + ASN + REX Soft Clouds and it is sublime, FSX:SE looks positively "2006" next to it.

The lighting, the smoothness, and what you don't see; the VAStly superior memory management to any previous FSX/ESP engine.

Even XP10 is gathering dust since P3D v3 arrived on my hard drive.

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I would probably go for it too, but having to buy all PMDG and A2A stuff is just too much for me...

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