Very interesting conversations regarding FS9 and FSX,maybe somebody can help me please.i have benn a simmer since 1998 with FS98,then eventually installing FS9,quite the best up to that date,but four weeks ago I installed FSX SE,and Windows 10 at the same time,after a shaky start FSX was  working fine,but my FS9 would not work so I uninstalled and re installed four times,but it still won't work.Imust admit I am missing my old faithful,can anybody please help.

 

Welcome to the forum. The general view seems to be that FS9 doesn't play all that well with Windows 10. There are numerous posts across several forums that may help you. Just Google "FS9 Windows 10" for a good sample.

Doug

my fs9 looks far superior to the 'cartoon' and 'arcade' look to my FSX.

 

The water in FSX is horrifically terrible. Looks about as realistic as a kids drawing.

If I only had a dollar for every time you said this. Might be an idea for your signature box.

 

Btw, I'd be interested to see one of your cartoon shots from your ORBX region you have in your FSX to see what you're seeing that looks so bad, or a link to a cartoon looking screen shot to know what you're always referring to.

 

Although, I've seen some users using what I could see classified as cartoon looking REX cloud and sky textures that don't loom realistic at all, but that's the users fault for setting it up that way.

We (FSX & P3D) users are a bunch of blind suckers. :wink:

Or maybe our vision is fine but Jon's isn't. Kind of like the blue dress phenomenon that happened earlier this year https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress_(viral_phenomenon). Just shows how peoples vision can interpret an image so many different ways.

If I only had a dollar for every time you said this. Might be an idea for your signature box.

 

 

You be  a  rich man if you took him up on it

Much more realistic colour and contrast that gives a far better visual experience to the environment. Which is the whole idea.

 

Well, "colour and contrast" is something you can easily adapt for FSX, P3D and every other game rather quickly by using SweetFX or similar tools.

 

If I want perfect realism, I'll look out my kitchen window.

 

FSX water is terrible. Not sure who and what fs9'ers want FSX water. I don't. I've been trying to make FSX water like fs9.

 

Rather inconsistent, no? "Perfect realism" is not really important yet you complain about how the water looks in FSX?

 

For me, especially P3Dv3 provides FAR better visuals than FS9. Come on, it is ridiculous to insist that FS9 offers better or comparable visuals, it can simply not as the engine is not as capable compared to the FSX engine. For me, one important point is (as mentioned) the density of autogen. While in FS9 a forest in PNW or elsewhere still looks more like a sparse collection of single trees, in P3Dv3 a forest finally looks like a forest, as it has about 10 times more trees per cell. Sure, you can always use your "if I want realism, I look outside window" argument, but if you start like this, you can easily destroy EVERY reason of flightsimming. If I want flying realism, I go out to the next airport and fly a plane myself. So what?

Hi Folks,

 

Yeah - - - well finished my download of - P3D - ORBX Global - ORBX Global Freeware Airports - ASN - REX (which I really don't think is better than FE from cursory looks in FSX) - - - so I'm ready to give P3D a fair shake...

 

As for the arguments of better graphics - obviously there are some better features in FSX that allow for higher detail levels/resolution - but - to be fair to FS9 had very very few scenery designers tackle whole regions in FS9 - or - put the same level of coverage and detail that we now see in FSX - but - those that did made it look pretty decent... The two that come to mind are Holger (realize he is ORBX now) and company with SE Alaska sceneries and my absolute favorite Vauchez (spelling ?) and his FlightZone products... I loved FlightZone's concept - design a major airport (not another Bravo thank god - give Charlie's and Delta's some love) but include a bunch of surrounding terrain and some outlying GA airports... PDX and PVD are still a joy to use...

 

I've developed a couple unreleased airports using satellite imagery - and - as far as tree density goes - most people don't go through the effort of planting trees on a tile to their maximum density - when you do the forests look pretty good but it takes some effort in "Annotator" to do it... My forests were denser than any of the others I've seen... 

 

I think if equal effort had been put into designing FS9 sceneries - the difference would be far less apparent... I do agree that the overall environment is better in FS9 (lighting, color, contrast) - can't put my finger on it but FSX always had a bit of a washed out look... From many of the screenshots I've seen P3D appears dark and blue-ish - seems adjustable though in one of the V3 videos I watched...

 

Just my nickels worth - I am looking forward to trying P3D - maybe this weekend...

 

Regards,
Scott

Well after a year of fiddling with P3D I have removed it and gone back to FSX (Steam Edition) with DX10.

 

FSX-SE + DX10 provides the perfect environment for the simulation of flight and for flight training.

 

If you want a flight simulator - use FSX. If you want a graphics simulator - use P3D.

 

Still have FS9 and use it occasionally. Runs beautifully on Windows 7 64.

Well after a year of fiddling with P3D I have removed it and gone back to FSX (Steam Edition) with DX10.

If you want a flight simulator - use FSX. If you want a graphics simulator - use P3D.

 

Lol, tell that to Lockheed Martin's actual professional civilian and military customers who actually use it for real training.

 

Basically what your post tells me that since you don't like it, then it's no good for anyone, professional or otherwise.

 

BTW, the much improved v3 wasn't out a year ago when you started "fiddling". Maybe that version would suit you better.

Shouldnt believe everything you read on the side of the box.

So your suggesting they don't have any professional civilian or military customers? The whole reason that LM got into P3D was to cater to us desktop simmers, contrary to what their licenses offer? The whole things a sham?

 

Maybe you can enlighten us with you're wisdom if your sure LM reasons for being in this space are otherwise.

 

Otherwise your comment was totally pointless.