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ATC Challenge!.....Up for it!

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Hi Guys, 

 

With all the current noise and banter going around about the different ATC programs that are available, it seem that 'mines longer than yours' and all that rubbish has been getting around.

 

So I thought, OK let see what is what and try and establish who's is really longer than someones else!!!

 

So this challenge will be in a few parts and all I ask is to be honest about what you feedback in this thread.  So, still up for it?

 

OK here is part one.

 

The criteria is this one simple question:  Does your ATC program of choice get you from A > B with 'full' ATC coverage.  Simple enough, that's it.

 

Here's the rub though:  

 

 

1.Do not post about the voices, things like 'they are robotic, sounds like two wav file badly put together', you know the kind of stuff I mean, right!

2. DO not post that god forbid, you had to use the mouse or even the keyboard, or had to go from full-screen to window mode, not bothered

3. No bothered about wrong voices @i'm flying in USA and hear a Spanish controller, not interested.

4. Any other issues, not interested in. Just answer the criteria question

 

The only routes you can use are these:

 

 

1. LFML > LEPA

2. EDDM > LOWI

3. XXXX > KABQ (anywhere to KABQ)

4. WMKK >WSSS

 

 

Fly as many as you want and just post here your results. Did it get you there, if not what went wrong and why, was it Pilot error or ATC.

Also say what went well and why it went well. 

 

Happy flying for the week-end

 

I'll let this run for a few weeks to see how it goes

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It could, but its about people being open and honest, simple criteria I think for the first challenge.

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Great idea!

I will do it this weekend. For me this will be a good benchmark, so I can see if I may switch sometime to another ATC prog. At this time I have just one.

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Fly what ever you want, try IFR and VFR, but remember the criteria for these set of flights  :smile:


Klaus, 

 

It will be and that's the point an open and honest feedback of the criteria, that's all is expected

 

 

Have fun

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OK, I did the flight from Marseilles to Palma using default ATC.  Full IFR flight Point A to point B with no hitches

 

or giddyups.  Smooth as butter.

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Hi Tom

 

Cool, again keep the criteria in mind and be honest about how it goes.

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Just finished first flight from LFML to LEPA and had complete ATC gate to gate as well as AI interaction throughout with PROATC-X. Left from gate B8 and was assigned the MAME4N departure for runway 31R. and the LORE2M arrival for runway 6L. (ILS) with the ADX transition. Except for the second descent which was a little late, though still time to catch up, the rest of the descent path was on glide slope, and ATC observed and assigned all way point altitude constraints as well for both departure and arrival procedures.

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Good One, so the default ATC gets you from A>B, one so far

Are we allowed to divert to an alternate once we arrive at B?

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Are we allowed to divert to an alternate once we arrive at B?

 

Not in Part 1, but you have already arrived at B. So how would you divert when you have arrived at B already  :smile:

 

 

Once you have flown 1 or more of the route, post what went well and why also what didn't go well and why.

Just finished first flight from LFML to LEPA and had complete ATC gate to gate as well as AI interaction throughout with PROATC-X. Left from gate B8 and was assigned the MAME4N departure for runway 31R. and the LORE2M arrival for runway 6L. (ILS) with the ADX transition. Except for the second descent which was a little late, though still time to catch up, the rest of the descent path was on glide slope, and ATC observed and assigned all way point altitude constraints as well for both departure and arrival procedures.

 

Good PIREP there Tom, that what is needed.  Some positives also somethings didn't go as expected

 

Well done

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I do love a challenge :wink: I now own three of the main contenders, those being; ProATC X, PF3 ATC and Pilot2ATC 1.4 (Any chance of testing v2 Clive :wink: ) Stay tuned for comments and video.

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Hi MIke  :wink:

 

Thought you would like this  :smile:

 

Just remember the criteria for part 1.

 

Once we have finished the last little bugs that we have noticed then the BETA will be released as per the Post on the P2A forum.

 

Hoping today is the last testing day.  Released for the week-end, but you know very well you never can tell  :smile:

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This is brilliant, and posts I'd rather read instead of subjective, personal preferences on the size of a "dreamliner" lol . Task for tonight. I'm in.

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Mike, great but what are the routes you can fly for part one of this challenge?

 

This is one of the points about this challenge everyone flies the same route(s).  Apples with apples  :wink:

 

 

Not their favorite route that they have flown a 100 times and knows that ATC will work.

 

Get my drift  :smile:

 

So, as this flight does not meet the criteria of this challenge, then it will be deleted...sorry about that

 

 

Post it somewhere else if you want others to see it.

 

......and I did remind you before you went off and did your video. :fool:

look at the post above

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Know what you mean, but this route gave me problems in both PATC and PF3, think I have sorted it but......It's a challenge..;-). Will fly your nominated routes as well.

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Great stuff

 

Challenge part 2 gets harder not just for your ATC programs but also you as PIC.

 

 

stay tuned.  


This is brilliant, and posts I'd rather read instead of subjective, personal preferences on the size of a "dreamliner" lol . Task for tonight. I'm in.

 

 

Yep, this is the whole objective of these challenges, didn't I say there is a part 2 and 3....well there is   :smile:

 

 

This the main reasons we locked another thread, it turned into 'who's got the biggest .......'dreamliner'

 

 

This thread will stay within the criteria, otherwise the posts will get deleted.

 

Above all have fun and test your ATC program(s) but also in Part two you will be testing yourself as PIC

 

Part 3........Not sure if ANY of the current ATC programs will get through that, let's wait and see.

 

 

glad you are in


Also you can fly these VFR or IFR  or both if you want as long as you use an ATC program for the flight

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Hi MIke  :wink:

 

Thought you would like this  :smile:

 

Just remember the criteria for part 1.

 

Once we have finished the last little bugs that we have noticed then the BETA will be released as per the Post on the P2A forum.

 

Hoping today is the last testing day.  Released for the week-end, but you know very well you never can tell  :smile:

 

Awesome CC ready

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Default ATC. (Not my ATC of choice but the only one I have right now. Would LOVE to give P2A v2 a try!)

 

EDDM > LOWI

IFR with the Lancair Legacy in P3D v3.1

Full ATC coverage: yes

Did it get me from A to B: no

 

Reason for the failure: I was ordered to fly to 12.000 feet. 10 nm out I was told to report the runway (visuals 8) in sight while I was still at 12.000 feet. 6.4 nm I was told to descent to 11.000 ft. 4.2 nm I finally had the runway in sight (not sooner because of clouds) and was told to descent to 3.900 ft and cleared to land. Obviously I had to declare a missed approach because I was way too high. I was told to turn left and continue descending to 3.900 . Unfortunately there were mountains at my left. At this moment I am presumed dead. Of course I could have prevented this all but I wanted to let ATC lead me ALL THE WAY for this test.

 

Apart from the failure this short flight made it very clear once more why I am interested in an ATC addon... I was vectored all over the bloody place.

 

Nice challenge btw.

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