February 22, 201610 yr Looks like CAE is in the process of purchasing Lockheeds commercial flight training division. It doesn't mention Lockheeds military simulator division but I wonder if this could possibly affect the development and attainability of P3D to the general public http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/cae-strikes-deal-for-lockheed-martin-flight-training-unit/article28833359/
February 22, 201610 yr Looks like CAE is in the process of purchasing Lockheeds commercial flight training division. It doesn't mention Lockheeds military simulator division but I wonder if this could possibly affect the development and attainability of P3D to the general public http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/cae-strikes-deal-for-lockheed-martin-flight-training-unit/article28833359/ That's a great company. Visited their headquarters several times. Very impressive.
February 22, 201610 yr Looking through LMCFT's product portfolio, it doesn't look like P3D is part of that. This division was formerly Sim-Industries, which was bought by LM early last year and renamed LMCFT. They mostly do big-box sim training for large commercial aircraft (Boeing & Airbus). It appears to be a much better fit with CAE's business model. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 23, 201610 yr Hi, just found this one: http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6305&p=129345&sid=a40affda934b08c5a8d58e3592570dc1#p129345 So it will not affect us, as P3D is part of Lockheed Martin Mission Systems and Training (MST) :wink: Marc Weber
February 23, 201610 yr Hi, just found this one: http://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6305&p=129345&sid=a40affda934b08c5a8d58e3592570dc1#p129345 So it will not affect us, as P3D is part of Lockheed Martin Mission Systems and Training (MST) :wink: Yes, good news. I was worried for a second... Always better to ask this to whom it actually concerns before speculation starts. :wink:
February 23, 201610 yr Moderator Yes, good news. I was worried for a second... Always better to ask this to whom it actually concerns before speculation starts. :wink: Darn it Jeroen!! I was looking forward to at LEAST 30 pages of pure speculation about the end of P3D, etc!!! Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
February 23, 201610 yr Darn it Jeroen!! I was looking forward to at LEAST 30 pages of pure speculation about the end of P3D, etc!!! Vic Good one Vic Rich Sennett
February 23, 201610 yr Darn it Jeroen!! I was looking forward to at LEAST 30 pages of pure speculation about the end of P3D, etc!!! Vic
February 24, 201610 yr Lockheed Martin is a very large organization ... I was actually surprised at how closely they have worked with Boeing and Airbus over the many years going way back to the Boeing's B-29 (built by Lockheed). LMCFT was "Sim-Industries" which was initially part of MST until it got moved to LMCFT and is now CAE Inc. How's that for a corporate shuffle?! Lots of diverse output from LM http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/features/2015/151202-mst-accelerating-learning-through-game-play.html and http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/features/2015/151201-mst-gearing-up-for-f-35a-operations.html LM have a fairly significant and diverse investment in simulations, training, and education. Cheers, Rob.
February 24, 201610 yr Well, as long as P3D can go 64bit, and perhaps a bit more optimized (if possible), we would have a nice sim for the next 20 years or more. Hey, don't shoot me now, we endured FSX all this time; developers kept developing and we kept flying. Not that we are all satisfied with current version. Don't get me wrong, it is a great sim; but, I'm sure it can only get better with Lockheed's support.
February 24, 201610 yr The modern business of war is the business of war games. Simulation. I would bet that P3D is something that can't be done away with at this point, simulated training is probably a defense mandate. The B-29 Superfortress and the L-049 Constellation are siblings, the 49 taking after the older brother. They share the same and design path/heritage. Even though I knew that I never thought about the connection, that LM must have made the B-29. I always assumed friendly war-time collaboration. perhaps a bit more optimized (if possible) I think this is more in Microsoft's hands now. I still don't think 64bit is the ticket. But I also haven't thought much about it, I've always sensed enough headroom in 32. Memory is not the way I think about it, bandwidth (how fast things go in/out of the CPU) is. A video segment from the second link provided by Rob above ( http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/features/2015/151201-mst-gearing-up-for-f-35a-operations.html ) I meant to have that start at 59 seconds, but the whole thing is good. Looks like default P3D scenery in there. Eglin is P3D's home base. Disclaimer: [email protected] on Asus Maximus X Formula, G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4x8GB 4266/17 XMP, EVGA 2080 ti Kingpin (8400/2160Mhz), Samsung 960 EVO 250GB PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD , 28TB HDD total - 4TB+ photoscenery, Romex Software PrimoCache RAM and SSD cache (must have!), 3x1080p 30" monitors, Samsung Odyssey VR HMD, Pimax 4k & BE HMDs, Samsung Gear VR '17, Homdio v1, Cardboard, custom loop 2x 360x64ML Rads, Thermaltake View 71, VRM watercool, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut CPU (naked die), Fujipoly / ModRight Ultra Extreme System Builder Thermal Pad on MB VRM. 8x Corsair ML120 (slight positive pressure). 🙂
February 25, 201610 yr The B-29 Superfortress and the L-049 Constellation are siblings, the 49 taking after the older brother. They share the same and design path. I wouldn't call them "siblings" - more like distant cousins. The B-29 was designed and built by Boeing, while the Connie was a Lockheed product. The two companies were (and still are) competitors. The direct descendant of the B-29 was the Boeing 377 Stratocruiser, the post war airliner that was, for all intents and purposes, a B-29 outfitted with a larger fuselage for carrying passengers. Likewise the Boeing KC-97 tanker, which was the military version of the Stratocruiser, and served in the Air Force through the mid 1960's and National Guard up to 1978. Both aircraft (Constellation and the B-29) did have a common heritage in using the same engines - the Wright 3350 18- cylinder compound radial. The Stratocruiser used the even larger Pratt and Whitney Wasp Major with 28(!) cylinders per engine. Jim BarrettLicensed Airframe & Powerplant Mechanic, Avionics, Electrical & Air Data Systems Specialist. Qualified on: Falcon 900, CRJ-200, Dornier 328-100, Hawker 850XP and 1000, Lear 35, 45, 55 and 60, Gulfstream IV and 550, Embraer 135, Beech Premiere and 400A, MD-80.
February 25, 201610 yr Good Jim - You Forgot the Black Slime Oil Dripping Turbo Chargers - As Magnificent an Aeronautical Achievement as the R3350 was - You NEVER Wanted to Stand Downwind From Them - Especially in a White "Air America" Crew Chiefs Uniform - there is NOTHING Better than the Sound of a - BIG - ROUND - ENGINE - The Bigger - The Better - Johnman
February 25, 201610 yr Boeing KC-97 tanker My older half-siblings were brats to a crew chief on one of those. They share the same [engine]. Disclaimer: [email protected] on Asus Maximus X Formula, G.Skill TridentZ RGB 4x8GB 4266/17 XMP, EVGA 2080 ti Kingpin (8400/2160Mhz), Samsung 960 EVO 250GB PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD , 28TB HDD total - 4TB+ photoscenery, Romex Software PrimoCache RAM and SSD cache (must have!), 3x1080p 30" monitors, Samsung Odyssey VR HMD, Pimax 4k & BE HMDs, Samsung Gear VR '17, Homdio v1, Cardboard, custom loop 2x 360x64ML Rads, Thermaltake View 71, VRM watercool, Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut CPU (naked die), Fujipoly / ModRight Ultra Extreme System Builder Thermal Pad on MB VRM. 8x Corsair ML120 (slight positive pressure). 🙂
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