Dunno about that, remember, FSX, FS2004, P3D etc have been around for 10+ years, less for others.

Why would a completely new product, not compatible with anything else, cause other distribution lines to fail?

Actually, not a bad thing for a new product to have a unique distribution outlet.

The sims will be released through Steam & the Windows 10 Store. This should tell you who the target market is

 

 

Wobbie, again with your idea that Steam users are simulation newbies?

 

You know who is also on Steam? DCS is. And X-Plane. And neither of them, especially DCS, are arcade games. Steam is just the biggest legal distribution platform for games. Going there is the most logical thing to do for the simple reason a big chunk of all kind of players are on it. Last year it reached peaks of 8 million people online at the same time..

 

On top of that, DTG previous experience in using Steam for both Train Sim (they sell most of their DLCs on Steam) and FSX-SE surely helped them in deciding where  to distribute it.

Francesco, I agree with you completely. I'm not saying that Steam is a sim newbie market, I'm saying that it is a very mature market with a huge membership, for want of a better name, of potential sim newbies. It is obvious to DTG that that is their ideal outlet market, combined with the Windows Store. 

 

 

This isnt an issue to me. Simmarket and theflightsimstore have been the source of alot of my money being spent, but they dont actually produce anything for me.

 

For me neither - although it would be a major change for those businesses we have come to know since day 1.  Agree with your point on a single channel of entry for developers

Francesco, I agree with you completely. I'm not saying that Steam is a sim newbie market, I'm saying that it is a very mature market with a huge membership, for want of a better name, of potential sim newbies. It is obvious to DTG that that is their ideal outlet market, combined with the Windows Store. 

 

Then we are in agreement and i am sorry if i assumed wrong

All in agreement. Sometimes I confuse myself!

However good Steam is as a distribution method the FSX-SE addons catalogue on there is not very inspiring, four pages of mainly tired old addons that have stopped selling well at the other flightsim web shops.

 

Something is stopping the top tier Devs from selling their latest and greatest on Steam, why would that be ..

Glynn, you HAVE to get away from comparing a brand new sim to that of a 10 year old program that was given a touch of lipstick & re-released.

 

It is no surprise, or should not be, that Steam was an outlet for the remonetization of addons to new simmers that have not already purchased then over the last 10 years. Why should the top tier developers redesign their installers when they already have had an existing market? Having said that, there have been some unique FSX:SE DLC's.

 

 

Why should the top tier developers redesign their installers when they already have had an existing market?

 

Wobbie i was just wondering why, if Steam has a potential market of 125 million users that the likes of PMDG have not jumped at the chance of selling into this vast market.

What's holding them back, it can't be just the extra work remaking an installer.

Of course part of their earnings will go to DTG. Who is also paying Steam for the service. So that's probably why some addon developers were willing to do it while others were not

 

 

Glynn, you HAVE to get away from comparing a brand new sim to that of a 10 year old program that was given a touch of lipstick & re-released.

 

But wont DTG Flight simulator just be a 10 year old program that was given a recompile to 64 bit  + a touch of lipstick

 

 

Wobbie i was just wondering why, if Steam has a potential market of 125 million users that the likes of PMDG have not jumped at the chance of selling into this vast market.
What's holding them back, it can't be just the extra work remaking an installer.

 

I guess selling your product on Steam/or any other distributor costs you part of your profit. PMDG's reputation is big and solid enough to have everyone come running to their webshop for purchase.  Let's face it, if you know absolutely nothing about PMDG, what are the chances that you are going to pay $100 for a single product on Steam?

But wont DTG Flight simulator just be a 10 year old program that was given a recompile to 64 bit + a touch of lipstick

 

Not according to Martin, I'm sure you have read his many reasons as to why, & the little titbits of what to expect?

Erich, I agree with you.

 

Also PMDG is a very niche product that most novices will stay away from, until they have their 'wings'.

Not everybody wants a PMDG product. Those that do know where to go. Also, I'm sure the Steam forum for FSX:SE is, with all dure respect to Martin, a good laff.

 

 

Also PMDG is a very niche product that most novices will stay away from, until they have their 'wings'.

Well, even simmers who do have their wings may stay away from PMDG for various reasons, I can assure you.  :wink:

lol, I must admit I prefer GA & the low's ' n slow's myself. Those older planes have got some kind of character that those anonomously looking tubes do not have. I even indulge by flying the scenery & planes from Ed & Garry's Ford site, in FS9. But that's another story. 

 

I actually wonder how many of those PMDG'rs fly with a joystick? lol...