May 17, 201610 yr Commercial Member Those pretending XP10 is smooth as a baby's butt all the time and has no performance issues are either fibbing a bit or run very low settings. I typically fly where I live & travel; that means the largest urban centers I regularly overfly are Edmonton and Calgary. My framerates can drop as low as 35-40 in those areas (Edmonton has nearly full osm coverage through w2xp - I can even see my detached garage behind my house), otherwise I typically hover around 50-60. I did a flight the other day from my newly acquired KTNP over to KLAS in the Epic Victory, my results were very similar - frames were mid 50's until I hit the outskirts of Las Vegas, where they crept down to high 30's on approach. My flights are always smooth; it's one of the reasons why I like XP as much as I do. I run w2xp, along with quite high settings across the board. I also run at 4xSSAA+FXAA, at 1440p. There are a few things, however where performance will suffer if I let it. Shadows have a noticeable impact at higher levels of AA and as such I generally use 'overlay' or '3D on aircraft', and any appreciable level of AA with dense clouds seems to be a major performance concern. Jim Stewart Milviz Person.
May 17, 201610 yr Well I just tested with all settings extreme and wiped out W2XP which is the cause of the resource hog... with the above mentioned add-ons and HD mesh v3 running now between 55 and 70 fps... Still testing.... Now some good ATC and AI and airports A slight note on this for those less familiar with X-Plane/W2XP: the non "_osm" versions of W2XP will in my experience come with a significantly higher performance cost due to the exclusions.
May 17, 201610 yr The only thing that is really killing performance in XP on my system are the clouds, be it vanilla or skymaxx. ASUS Maximus VIII Hero Alpha, Intel Core i7 6700K 4.5GHz, Corsair Vengeance Black LPX 32GB, MSI 5060Ti 16G Ventus 3X, Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD
May 17, 201610 yr be it vanilla or skymaxx Yes, vanilla clouds do tend to tax quite a bit my video card, but skymaxx, absolutely no problems with HDR at 2X SSAA+FXAA in any weather scenario. The only gripe I have with skymaxx is the 1-2 sec delay when updating weather conditions. Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810
May 17, 201610 yr P3DV3.2 performs better on my machine (6 cores 4.3ghz), but it has inconstant fps, while XP10 has lower fps (and much lower fps if I use w2xp with objects on tons) but constant, so XP10 feels more smoother than P3D, despite the fact that it runs at lower fps (overall)... you can notice it especially during the landings. The only exception is if you really pump the scenery and the settings, the lowest of XP10 makes it unplayable (I managed to have sub-10 fps), while P3D remains (someway) playable.. but it's really a border scenario (playing at 12fps is crap in any case).
May 17, 201610 yr Only still very annoying experience to me, specially when I was cruising my PSX with XP visuals at higher altitudes, near tile borders, was seiing the next tile not being loaded, until I got near... and I had the distant tile rendering option enabled! This happened a few times and I was using just default scenery with autogen set to none, no cars, default trees ! Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 18, 201610 yr I agree with the clouds. I don't have SkyMaxx and am wondering if I'd see any improvement if I did, but the default clouds for me are an absolute killer. I only have AA at FXAA too. Tom Wright, UK PPL(A) SEP + Night Rating + IMC/IR(R) Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM | 16GB RTX 4080 Super | 2x 2TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2 | Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Sidestick + Quadrant | Logitech G Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | WinCTRL Airbus FCU + EFIS + MCDU
May 18, 201610 yr I have Skymaxx V3 and Real Weather Connector. HD on and 2X SSAA FXAA, 1/2 Refresh Rate in NI and is the smoothest sim i have ever seen. José Fco. Ibáñez /// i7 6700k (Delid) @ 4,6 Ghz /// Asrock Z170 OC Formula /// 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 /// GTX 1070 Founders Edition 8GB /// LG 27UD58 4K 27' // OCZ Vertex 4 SSD (X-Plane 10) & SAMSUNG 850 EVO SSD (P3D V3) /// Windows 10 Pro x64
May 18, 201610 yr I agree with the clouds. I don't have SkyMaxx and am wondering if I'd see any improvement if I did, but the default clouds for me are an absolute killer. I only have AA at FXAA too. Agreed, default clouds are very taxing indeed! Skymaxx meant to be a lot better for that. Although Skymaxx and RWC weighs in very expensive IMO (like most products on X-Aviation). Simon Roberts
May 18, 201610 yr I feel inspired to try XP again. Is the demo also the lastest version, or does it lag behind the full release? Unless they are one and the same?
May 18, 201610 yr Agreed, default clouds are very taxing indeed! Skymaxx meant to be a lot better for that. Although Skymaxx and RWC weighs in very expensive IMO (like most products on X-Aviation). I might try SkyMaxx as I am really trying to give XP a decent chance this time as the IXEG 733 is fantastic. I know this is not the place to compare FSX/P3D with XP but if that's one thing the former has going for it it's the ability to at least fly in decent overcast conditions without reducing to a Powerpoint presentation! Tom Wright, UK PPL(A) SEP + Night Rating + IMC/IR(R) Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM | 16GB RTX 4080 Super | 2x 2TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2 | Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Sidestick + Quadrant | Logitech G Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | WinCTRL Airbus FCU + EFIS + MCDU
May 18, 201610 yr I have Skymaxx V3 and Real Weather Connector. HD on and 2X SSAA FXAA, 1/2 Refresh Rate in NI and is the smoothest sim i have ever seen. Agreed, default clouds are very taxing indeed! Skymaxx meant to be a lot better for that. Although Skymaxx and RWC weighs in very expensive IMO (like most products on X-Aviation). Interesting! Can we say that Skymaxx improves the FPS then? Would this be the first case of a graphic enhancement add-on that ALSO improves performance? I will be getting this addon then! Jaime Beneyto My real life aviation and flight simulation videos [English and Spanish] System: i9 9900k OC 5.0 GHz | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Asus Z390-F
May 18, 201610 yr Can we say that Skymaxx improves the FPS then? If you have the right video card then yes, I have a 970 and FPS are no problem in any weather condition. Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810
May 18, 201610 yr If you have the right video card then yes, I have a 970 and FPS are no problem in any weather condition. How about a GTX770 2GB ? Jaime Beneyto My real life aviation and flight simulation videos [English and Spanish] System: i9 9900k OC 5.0 GHz | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Asus Z390-F
May 18, 201610 yr How about a GTX770 2GB ? Based on benchmarks I have seen, the 970 yields around 35% more performance then the 770, so I would say yes there may be a noticeable difference. if you plant to upgrade any time soon, I would suggest to wait for the 1070 which will be around $399. I am planning on upgrading to the 1080 once is out. Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810
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