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OOMs are back... partially

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I can nearly use Aerosofts EDDF v2 at night together with Night Environment in a heavy airplane (NGX, Airbus etc). Sitting at gate with GSX enabled eats up over 3.7 GB :Hmmmph:

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Brynjar Mauseth 

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  • Michael Moe
    Michael Moe

    We have just forgotten that the 600-700mb of extra VAS in P3Dv3 still comes with limitations. :wink:   but we can crank up eyecandy for sure.   EDDFv2 is still new and we might see some improvemen

  • Guys, it's not P3D, it's MA EDDF. The worst VAS sucker in my P3D collection so far. 

  • SierraDelta
    SierraDelta

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=+monitor+vas+usage

How can you monitor VAS usage during a simulation?

 

I use Process Explorer and/or FSUIPC to monitor VAS. If you have a registered version of FSUIPC you can use this technique:

  1. In Prepar3D open Add-ons – FSUIPC and select tab Logging.
  2. Check: IPC reads  in Log Details and FS Window (or FS Title Bar) in Display to
  3. Fill Offset = 024C and Type =32 in the Specific value checks
  4. Close with OK
  5. You can drag and resize the green FS Window bar as desired to any convenient place on the screen. Once configured in FSUIPC it will appear again at next start.

Let me guess.... you want 64bit. 

Josh Daniels-Johannson

 

 


I can nearly use Aerosofts EDDF v2 at night together with Night Environment in a heavy airplane (NGX, Airbus etc). Sitting at gate with GSX enabled eats up over 3.7 GB :Hmmmph:

 

Do you turn your sliders down at night?

Gregg Seipp

"A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane.  A great landing is when you can reuse it."
i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090

Do you turn your sliders down at night?

 

Yes I have drastically reduced or backed down sliders at night. To my surprise, it doesn't do that much in terms of VAS usage (only about 100 MB less setting LOD radius to normal and scenery complexity, autogen etc to normal as well, 1024k textures). FPS of course gets better, but that is also much connected with switching off cloud reflections, shadows, dynamic reflections etc. I don't need that at night!

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Brynjar Mauseth 

 

 


Yes I have drastically reduced or backed down sliders at night. To my surprise, it doesn't do that much in terms of VAS usage (only about 100 MB less setting LOD radius to normal and scenery complexity, autogen etc to normal as well, 1024k textures). FPS of course gets better, but that is also much connected with switching off cloud reflections, shadows, dynamic reflections etc. I don't need that at night!

 

Wow, seems it might be hard to get a 777 in there.

Gregg Seipp

"A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane.  A great landing is when you can reuse it."
i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090

Cannot confirm this either...

 

Just completed a flight from EKCH (FlyTampa) to EDDFv2... No OOM and no problems - some stutters during approach, but in general it performs very nice!

 

VAS remaining, during the flight, was steady on 1.400 MB. On approach and landing it dropped to approx 1.000 MB remaining... no problems...


Btw - addons and sim used was:

 

Prepar3D 3.2.2.16769

 

FTX Global

FTX OpenLC EU

REX Texture Direct

PMDG 737 NGX 1.10.6461.0

EZDok Camera system

15% AI Traffic using WoAI (so, not alot of traffic - but there were a couple of dozen AI's present at EDDF/EKCH)

 

(Can't remember anything else, relevant...?!)

Best regards,
--Anders Bermann--
____________________
Scandinavian VA

Pilot-ID: SAS2471

Did a flight yesterday from T2G EDDM to the new Aerosoft EDDF in the NGX in Prepar3d v3.2. This was with ASN live weather, Orbx openLC EU and Orbx Vector. Landed in Frankfurt with 800 Mb free VAS.

[email protected] ∣ Asus ROG Strix B650E-E ∣ 64Gb@6000MT ∣ NVidia 5090 FE

 

 


Cannot confirm this either...

Just completed a flight from EKCH (FlyTampa) to EDDFv2... No OOM and no problems - some stutters during approach, but in general it performs very nice!

VAS remaining, during the flight, was steady on 1.400 MB. On approach and landing it dropped to approx 1.000 MB remaining... no problems...

 

That's decent.  Are you running Orbx Vector or OpenLC?


 

 


Cannot confirm this either...



Just completed a flight from EKCH (FlyTampa) to EDDFv2... No OOM and no problems - some stutters during approach, but in general it performs very nice!



VAS remaining, during the flight, was steady on 1.400 MB. On approach and landing it dropped to approx 1.000 MB remaining... no problems...

Btw - addons and sim used was:



Prepar3D 3.2.2.16769



FTX Global

FTX OpenLC EU

REX Texture Direct

PMDG 737 NGX 1.10.6461.0

EZDok Camera system

15% AI Traffic using WoAI (so, not alot of traffic - but there were a couple of dozen AI's present at EDDF/EKCH)

(Can't remember anything else, relevant...?!)

 

Nice.  No Vector?

Gregg Seipp

"A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane.  A great landing is when you can reuse it."
i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090

That's decent.  Are you running Orbx Vector or OpenLC?

 

 

 

Nice.  No Vector?

Nope!

 

Dislike like Vector, due to it's appearance in the sim... Don't like the vector graphics just cutting through the textures underneath (just me, maybe - but it's a trade-off I'm willing to accept.)

 

I was using ActiveSky Next SP5 (the beta version) as well ... Live weather! (quite nasty weather at EDDF upon landing)... 

I was using FTX Global and FTX OpenLC EU ... 

Best regards,
--Anders Bermann--
____________________
Scandinavian VA

Pilot-ID: SAS2471

I have experienced an OOM in P3D v3.1......

 

Test circuit @ EGLC London City in the A2A Simulations Piper Cherokee 180 with absolutely everything enabled (all UK photoscenery, FTX Northern Ireland, FTX UK airfields, UK2000 Xtreme airports, UK2000 VFR Airfields packages, ES TreeScapes, all Earth Simulations scenery packages, FSX Power Project pylons and wind turbines, REX Essential Plus SP3, Ultimate Traffic 2 AI airliners @ 100%, and plenty of BGL driven AI planes), and 4xSGSS transparency supersampling.

 

Not exactly a surprise!

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

UK2000 Beta Tester

Cannot confirm this either...

 

Just completed a flight from EKCH (FlyTampa) to EDDFv2... No OOM and no problems - some stutters during approach, but in general it performs very nice!

 

VAS remaining, during the flight, was steady on 1.400 MB. On approach and landing it dropped to approx 1.000 MB remaining... no problems...

Btw - addons and sim used was:

 

Prepar3D 3.2.2.16769

 

FTX Global

FTX OpenLC EU

REX Texture Direct

PMDG 737 NGX 1.10.6461.0

EZDok Camera system

15% AI Traffic using WoAI (so, not alot of traffic - but there were a couple of dozen AI's present at EDDF/EKCH)

 

(Can't remember anything else, relevant...?!)

 

 

Nice. Can you elaborate on your in-game settings then?

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Brynjar Mauseth 

My settings are not extreme!

I have a laptop which runs this so (has a 870M but still)... 

I'll try listing as many as I can think of here:

 

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Graphics

Image and Texture Quality

FXAA: On
MSAA: 2 Samples
Texture Filthering: Anisotropic 4x
Texture Resolution: Ultra - 4096x4096

 

Full Screen Settings
Resolution 1280x720x32

 

Frame Rate Controls
VSync: Off
Target frame rate: Unlimited

 

Hardware Tesselation
Tesselation Enabled: Checked

View and Panel Settings
Wide-view Aspect Ratio: Checked
Mipmap VC Panels: Checked

Scenery

Terrain

Level of detail radius: High

Tesselation Factor: Medium
Mesh Resolution: 5m
Texture resolution: 7cm

Water and Bathymetry
Water Detail: Ultra
Nothing checked in Reflections!

Scenery Objects
Scenery complexity: Very Dense
Autogen vegetation density: Dense
Autogen building density: Dense

Special Effects
Special effects detail: High
Special effects distance: Medium

Lighting

Lighting
NO HDR Lighting!
Landing-lights illuminate ground: Checked
Lens flare: Checked

Shadows
Shadow Quality: Low
Terrain Shadow Cast Distance: 0m
Cloud Shadow Cast Distance: 20.000 m
Object Shadow Cast Distance: 3.000 m
Internal Vehicle: Cast: Checked - Recieve: Checked
External Vehicle: Cast: Checked - Recieve: Checked
NOTHING ELSE CHECKED!

Weather

Visual Settings
Cloud draw distance: 90 mi
Cloud coverage density: High
Volumetric Fog: Checked
Detailed clouds: Selected
Thermal Visualization: None

Simulation Settings
Disable turbulence and thermal effects on aircraft: NOT CHECKED
Rate at which weather changes over time: No change

Traffic

Aviation Traffic
Airline traffic density: 15%
General aviation traffic density: 0%
Airport Vehicle density: None

Land and Sea Traffic
Road vehicles: 0%
Ships and ferries: 20%
Leisure boats: 0%

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

That should be all? Don't really know if that's was what you wanted... but there you go! ;)

Best regards,
--Anders Bermann--
____________________
Scandinavian VA

Pilot-ID: SAS2471

My settings are not extreme!

 

I have a laptop which runs this so (has a 870M but still)... 

I'll try listing as many as I can think of here:

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Graphics

 

Image and Texture Quality

FXAA: On

MSAA: 2 Samples

Texture Filthering: Anisotropic 4x

Texture Resolution: Ultra - 4096x4096

 

Full Screen Settings

Resolution 1280x720x32

 

Frame Rate Controls

VSync: Off

Target frame rate: Unlimited

 

Hardware Tesselation

Tesselation Enabled: Checked

 

View and Panel Settings

Wide-view Aspect Ratio: Checked

Mipmap VC Panels: Checked

 

Scenery

 

Terrain

Level of detail radius: High

Tesselation Factor: Medium

Mesh Resolution: 5m

Texture resolution: 7cm

 

Water and Bathymetry

Water Detail: Ultra

Nothing checked in Reflections!

 

Scenery Objects

Scenery complexity: Very Dense

Autogen vegetation density: Dense

Autogen building density: Dense

 

Special Effects

Special effects detail: High

Special effects distance: Medium

 

Lighting

 

Lighting

NO HDR Lighting!

Landing-lights illuminate ground: Checked

Lens flare: Checked

 

Shadows

Shadow Quality: Low

Terrain Shadow Cast Distance: 0m

Cloud Shadow Cast Distance: 20.000 m

Object Shadow Cast Distance: 3.000 m

Internal Vehicle: Cast: Checked - Recieve: Checked

External Vehicle: Cast: Checked - Recieve: Checked

NOTHING ELSE CHECKED!

 

Weather

 

Visual Settings

Cloud draw distance: 90 mi

Cloud coverage density: High

Volumetric Fog: Checked

Detailed clouds: Selected

Thermal Visualization: None

 

Simulation Settings

Disable turbulence and thermal effects on aircraft: NOT CHECKED

Rate at which weather changes over time: No change

 

Traffic

 

Aviation Traffic

Airline traffic density: 15%

General aviation traffic density: 0%

Airport Vehicle density: None

 

Land and Sea Traffic

Road vehicles: 0%

Ships and ferries: 20%

Leisure boats: 0%

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

That should be all? Don't really know if that's was what you wanted... but there you go! ;)

 

 

Thanks, well I have no clue how you can end up with 1000 MB free flying between FlyTampas Copenhagen and Aerosoft Frankfurt v2 in the NGX with those settings. I usually start up with 3300-3400 MB just sitting at the gate at FlyTampa Copenhagen. LOD Radius and autogen complexity are by far the most heaviest VAS consumers and you have cranked those quite high.

 

But I'm getting used to this now. Somehow my computer and P3D consumes a ridiculous amount of virtual memory no matter how far left I push those sliders.

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Brynjar Mauseth 

Thanks, well I have no clue how you can end up with 1000 MB free flying between FlyTampas Copenhagen and Aerosoft Frankfurt v2 in the NGX with those settings. I usually start up with 3300-3400 MB just sitting at the gate at FlyTampa Copenhagen. LOD Radius and autogen complexity are by far the most heaviest VAS consumers and you have cranked those quite high.

 

But I'm getting used to this now. Somehow my computer and P3D consumes a ridiculous amount of virtual memory no matter how far left I push those sliders.

 

Hmm... Sounds weird ... 

Perhaps you have a leak somewhere?

Best regards,
--Anders Bermann--
____________________
Scandinavian VA

Pilot-ID: SAS2471

Hmm... Sounds weird ... 

Perhaps you have a leak somewhere?

 

 

Yes, very strange. I've had other simmers check - for instance, in situations where they consume around 2800 MB virtual memory (sitting at the gate, NGX, Fly Tampa Copenhagen), I usually consume 500 MBs more with the exact same settings.

 

As note, the handling of virtual memory was for me FAR better in P3D v3.0. Somehow it got worse in v3.2. 

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Brynjar Mauseth 

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