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Anyone else see the new lighting engine coming to XP?

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I was watching a video of the Flightsimcon and toward the end they showed the new rendering engine all I can say is wow,I hope this comes out soon.

 

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It sort of bugs me this developer doesn't simply flash hire 15 people for 2 years and put out a complete, full featured sim. If they did, I feel it would simply eclipse everything else out there in sales and bar none dominate.

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Yes, really looking forward to this. I don't like the external plastic look of the aircraft in X-Plane and this should add an entire new level of realism. The real-time ambient occlusion is another feature which will change the look of the scenery in a subtle but nice way (but for those who have it baked into their own textures for airports, will likely need to be edited)


It sort of bugs me this developer doesn't simply flash hire 15 people for 2 years and put out a complete, full featured sim. If they did, I feel it would simply eclipse everything else out there in sales and bar none dominate.

 

It's not that easy. 15 new developers aren't going to know how to code on the new system and will need training and a lot of time. Some products are so huge (with source code) that getting familiar can be quite a task.

 

But hiring 15 texture and 3D artists to spruce up the landscape, yes :-)

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Yes, really looking forward to this. I don't like the external plastic look of the aircraft in X-Plane and this should add an entire new level of realism. The real-time ambient occlusion is another feature which will change the look of the scenery in a subtle but nice way (but for those who have it baked into their own textures for airports, will likely need to be edited)

 

It's not that easy. 15 new developers aren't going to know how to code on the new system and will need training and a lot of time. Some products are so huge (with source code) that getting familiar can be quite a task.

 

But hiring 15 texture and 3D artists to spruce up the landscape, yes :-)

Austin probably can't afford to,thanks to patient trolls, think how far XP could have come if those resources had been devoted to development vs legal fees.

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It says X-Plane 10.50!  Is the new lighting coming in this Update?    I seen it at the end so i guess it must be

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It says X-Plane 10.50!  Is the new lighting coming in this Update?    I seen it at the end so i guess it must be

 

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Ah rite, thank you.  Thats what i get for speed reading videos :smile:  

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I asked Austin at the end of the presentation about the UI and lighting and he said no comment.

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Technically, it's a new rendering technique, not a lighting engine.

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I think it will also certainly need more powerful hardware. HDR lighting was and still is and absolute killer but it makes a big difference.

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I asked Austin at the end of the presentation about the UI and lighting and he said no comment.

 

They never talk about what's coming to next major versions until a few monthe before release.

But I guess if they already have working demos , and a major version should have some new big features , it makes sense that those stuff are going into V11 , but it's a pure speculation by me :-)

BTW , in one of the betas in 10.40 IIRC , they included by mistake a folder called interface11 and in the next update they removed it , this can be a hint LOL

 

I think it will also certainly need more powerful hardware. HDR lighting was and still is and absolute killer but it makes a big difference.

 

Well I guess they'll also optimize stuff in the rendering engine to make performance better (use more cores on the cpu for rendering calulations etc..)

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They never talk about what's coming to next major versions until a few monthe before release.

But I guess if they already have working demos , and a major version should have some new big features , it makes sense that those stuff are going into V11 , but it's a pure speculation by me :-)

BTW , in one of the betas in 10.40 IIRC , they included by mistake a folder called interface11 and in the next update they removed it , this can be a hint LOL

 

 

Well I guess they'll also optimize stuff in the rendering engine to make performance better (use more cores on the cpu for rendering calulations etc..)

 

Like Vulcan and DX 12 etc. but I don't even think Ben really even started working on it yet. SO either those probably won't be in XP11 or it's still another 2 years away.

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Like Vulcan and DX 12 etc. but I don't even think Ben really even started working on it yet. SO either those probably won't be in XP11 or it's still another 2 years away.

Vulcan and DX 12 are on a totally different level. They are responsible for the event handling and how to reach the GPU. PBR is simply a different kind of shader. For Vulkan, DX12 and OpenGL this is simply a different payload.

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It sort of bugs me this developer doesn't simply flash hire 15 people for 2 years and put out a complete, full featured sim. If they did, I feel it would simply eclipse everything else out there in sales and bar none dominate.

Guess you're not in the IT business and never heard that adding more people to an existing project does not reduce the time to complete a project...

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But hiring 15 texture and 3D artists to spruce up the landscape, yes :-)

 

I like X-Plane 10's autogen, especially in 10.50, but it only gets you so far. By not having famous landmarks and other iconic buildings somewhat diminishes the overall presentation of the sim.

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I think it will also certainly need more powerful hardware.

 

It will. At least people who are still using hardware once bought for X-Plane 9 will need to upgrade. A few months ago, at the European FlightSim Conference, I talked with Laminar's Philipp Münzel and from what I've learnt, I have to face the sad fact that my old PC won't be able to even start X-Plane 11, because my (non-changeable) graphics adapter is not able to handle some of the new effects.

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It will. At least people who are still using hardware once bought for X-Plane 9 will need to upgrade. A few months ago, at the European FlightSim Conference, I talked with Laminar's Philipp Münzel and from what I've learnt, I have to face the sad fact that my old PC won't be able to even start X-Plane 11, because my (non-changeable) graphics adapter is not able to handle some of the new effects.

Do you not have a PCI port?

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Do you not have a PCI port?

 

I do, but this computer was never meant to be used for gaming or simming. So the case is so small that, although I could remove my GT530, a new one would not even fit ;)

 

But it will get better soon.

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I do, but this computer was never meant to be used for gaming or simming. So the case is so small that, although I could remove my GT530, a new one would not even fit ;)

 

But it will get better soon.

If you leave the side off it may fit (I leave mine off for better cooling) even a GTX 750 would help and it's a small card. Also you can keep your PC i internals and just get a new case they are like $40 for a decent one and switching the parts over can be done in about 30 min.

I do, but this computer was never meant to be used for gaming or simming. So the case is so small that, although I could remove my GT530, a new one would not even fit ;)

 

But it will get better soon.

This might fit

http://www.google.com/shopping/product/5359316001162931888?lsf=seller:8438988,rt:2&prds=oid:345936769032331150&q=gtx+950&hl=en&ei=a25xV_fLDsTXmAHB4JuIAg&lsft=gclid:Cj0KEQjwncO7BRC06snzrdSJyKEBEiQAsUaRjL80IS8N0hDnphaAYQ-yuFGSKFEkSmNJoa9F95s54MEaAjvU8P8HAQ

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Austin probably can't afford to,thanks to patient trolls, think how far XP could have come if those resources had been devoted to development vs legal fees.

Austin is far from broke, ever seen what he flies? He has also given a lot away in charity to dogs ( good man for that!)

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Even with a large case, I had to severely cut out sections of metal framework to get my Gigabyte GTX 770 GDDR5-4GB 2xDVI/HDMI/DP OC WINDFORCE 3X Graphics Card installed.  The monster is about 11.5 inches long.  I'm still using it and it appears to be getting about the same framerates as some of the guys are reporting with the newer - more expensive cards.  Don't know about the future, but it's doing great now.

 

John

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Some newer GPUs can handle X-Plane very well, and are fairly small, as well as very affordable. Case in point: GTX 960 and AMD RX 480.

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This might fit

 

Thanks for your ideas, much appreciated! :)

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Even with a large case, I had to severely cut out sections of metal framework to get my Gigabyte GTX 770 GDDR5-4GB 2xDVI/HDMI/DP OC WINDFORCE 3X Graphics Card installed.  The monster is about 11.5 inches long.  I'm still using it and it appears to be getting about the same framerates as some of the guys are reporting with the newer - more expensive cards.  Don't know about the future, but it's doing great now.

 

John

 

Have any benchmarks been released with the 480 and XP?

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Have any benchmarks been released with the 480 and XP?

 

I'm sure there were, some time ago, but I haven't seen anything lately under the 900 series. Remember that even with the latest and greatest, results vary because there are so many configurations out there. X-plane rarely remains default very long.

 

John

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