September 27, 20169 yr Thanks for posting that Manny. I am currently on an I7 3770K at 4.5Ghz and was thinking about upgrading. Think I'll just stay with what I have. Ted That's why I'm staying on my I7-4770K not worth the gain :-) André
October 3, 20169 yr If true, this seems to change the scene..hope its reliable, though difficult to believehttp://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-benchmarks/ Simulators: Prepar3D v5.4 | X-Plane 12 | DCS World | MSFS 2024 | PC Hardware: Dell U3417W | AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D | ASUS TUF 5070 Ti | ASUS TUF B580 Plus Wifi | G.Skill Z5 Neo 64GB 3000Mhz CL30 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + 850 EVO 1TB, Western Digital Black Caviar Black 6TB | Corsair RM1000i | Corsair 280 Titan RX | VRM Fan | Fractal Design Define S2 Gunmetal | Flight Controls: Fulcrum One Yoke | Virpil VPC WarBRD Base | Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip, Thrustmaster Warthog+F/A-18C Grip | VIER IM POTT Sidestick CPT Side | Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals | Virtual Fly TQ6+Throttle Quadrant | Sismo B737 Max Gear Lever | Monsterteck Desk Mounts | WINWING EfisL+FCU+MCDU | My fleet catalog: Link
October 3, 20169 yr A 40% jump in single thread is incredible, however there is now some doubt about those numbers with the z170 chipset compatibility. If this requires a new z270 mobo this will be a real pisser. Might have to upgrade if the 40% jump turns out to be accurate though, too good to pass up! <p>Dassault Falcon, Lear, Embraer and Challenger and Cessna Mechanic.Broadcasting live from former Soviet Missile Silo.Rhys Legge
October 3, 20169 yr If a 40% increase in single thread performance requires a new Z270 motherboard, then that's a small price to pay. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
October 3, 20169 yr That's not comparing like for like though. The 7700K has a higher frequency, 4.5 GHz Turbo. Even so, it's impressive.... IF true. 4.8 plus overclocking maybe, as long as the thermals aren't bonkers. Prepare to be disappointed though, I've lost count of how many times these exaggerated claims are made when a new chip arrives. 6700K TDP is 91 Watts. This guy is 95 Watts. Doesn't sound much different, but not sure of the impact in terms of thermals.
October 3, 20169 yr To be fair, when did we ever compare "like for like" in the past? If Intel can squeeze out increased clock frequency without increasing CPU temperatures (we will need to wait and see), then that's good news. If these early results turn out to be authentic, then I may just have an upgrade option after all :wink: Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
October 3, 20169 yr I simply doubt those 40%. As it is, the 7700K is basically the identical CPU chip as the 6700K, just with some minor adaptations around it. Those 40% are based on a single benchmark, most probably not even close to be representative for what we would see in P3D/FSX. So no, while the 7700K might add the one or the other argument for people like me (with a 3770K) to finally upgrade, it is certainly not worth for those already running a DDR4 platform with a 6700K. Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
October 3, 20169 yr To be fair, when did we ever compare "like for like" in the past? If Intel can squeeze out increased clock frequency without increasing CPU temperatures So Skylake OC'd at 4.6 and 70 degrees, and 7700K at 4.8 plus and 70 degrees for example... seriously doubt it when the TDP is higher. That would require a much lower TDP wouldn't it, not higher? Not possible. Are they using TIM between IHS and Die for this chip, or epoxy solder? If there are any improvements there it might help. I simply doubt those 40%. As it is, the 7700K is basically the identical CPU chip as the 6700K, just with some minor adaptations around it. Those 40% are based on a single benchmark, most probably not even close to be representative for what we would see in P3D/FSX. So no, while the 7700K might add the one or the other argument for people like me (with a 3770K) to finally upgrade, it is certainly not worth for those already running a DDR4 platform with a 6700K. Yep agree with all you say. But we live in hope. Just refining an architecture doesn't usually equate to such big gains.
October 3, 20169 yr The thing is, that for people who think to upgrade now (like me on an Ivy bridge) it is a risk. Even if I doubt the +40%, I can't spend 800$ and risk the benchmark to be true...tough choise Simulators: Prepar3D v5.4 | X-Plane 12 | DCS World | MSFS 2024 | PC Hardware: Dell U3417W | AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D | ASUS TUF 5070 Ti | ASUS TUF B580 Plus Wifi | G.Skill Z5 Neo 64GB 3000Mhz CL30 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB + 970 EVO Plus 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + 850 EVO 1TB, Western Digital Black Caviar Black 6TB | Corsair RM1000i | Corsair 280 Titan RX | VRM Fan | Fractal Design Define S2 Gunmetal | Flight Controls: Fulcrum One Yoke | Virpil VPC WarBRD Base | Virpil VPC MongoosT-50CM Grip, Thrustmaster Warthog+F/A-18C Grip | VIER IM POTT Sidestick CPT Side | Thrustmaster TPR Rudder Pedals | Virtual Fly TQ6+Throttle Quadrant | Sismo B737 Max Gear Lever | Monsterteck Desk Mounts | WINWING EfisL+FCU+MCDU | My fleet catalog: Link
October 3, 20169 yr Oh, I agree that we need a lot more information before we can come to any definitive conclusion. I am just hoping that it is true :smile: Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
October 4, 20169 yr Author Geekbench 4 is very sensitive to CPU speed and memspeed. Its only a Gigabyte teaser, no settings at all Example a fast test with a 6700k on a asus mobo 4.2ghz mem 3600 XMP 5700 Wait and see , 40% is a big improvment http://
October 4, 20169 yr Well, take older CPUs as comparison. For example a 6700K gets between 12% (Multicore) and 17% (Singlecore) higher scores in Geekbench compared with a 4790K. Comparing the 6700K with my 3770K in Geekbench, the 6700K is a solid 33% (Multicore) or 127% (!!!, singlecore) faster. Now you can judge yourself how relevant those 40% increase are when comparing 6700K and 7700K in regard of P3D/FSX... Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
October 4, 20169 yr ill be going for this upgrade. 4770k at the moment, was thinking about the 6700k but in the end, dont think that would be worth it. single thread improvements look good on the new chip!
October 4, 20169 yr Author Clarification i dont think Its a 40% improvment 5-7% on clockspeed and optimations 2-3% , Wait and see ....... http://
October 4, 20169 yr Clarification i dont think Its a 40% improvment 5-7% on clockspeed and optimations 2-3% , Wait and see ....... The voice of reason and sanity... Greg
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