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ChasePlane = EZDOK Killer?

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Wow is all I have to say about this product coming in 2017 from the FSFX Packages.   ChasePlane looks like a no hassle replacement for programs like EZDOK.  I just watched their demo and was blown away.  This is going to be a must have tool for anyone who likes having camera views they can setup inside, outside and statically in your scenery.   It has the same force dynamics like EZDOK but with one huge difference... ChasePlane looks to interact with the sim in real time and takes the data being fed and translates it into realistic turbulence and head movements.    The GUI looks slick and for Streamers like me it has a Cinematic mode where it just starts doing cinematic camera work, panning around the craft at random, showing like angles you would see in a JustPlanes video.  :)

 

If you haven't watched their demo go take a look here.  Skip ahead to time index 20:36 and be amazed at what they have planned.  EPIC.  This will replace EZDOK for me for sure.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T24CNG651U

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Wow is all I have to say about this product coming in 2017 from the FSFX Packages.   ChasePlane looks like a no hassle replacement for programs like EZDOK.  I just watched their demo and was blown away.  This is going to be a must have tool for anyone who likes having camera views they can setup inside, outside and statically in your scenery.   It has the same force dynamics like EZDOK but with one huge difference... ChasePlane looks to interact with the sim in real time and takes the data being fed and translates it into realistic turbulence and head movements.    The GUI looks slick and for Streamers like me it has a Cinematic mode where it just starts doing cinematic camera work, panning around the craft at random, showing like angles you would see in a JustPlanes video.  :)

 

If you haven't watched their demo go take a look here.  Skip ahead to time index 20:36 and be amazed at what they have planned.  EPIC.  This will replace EZDOK for me for sure.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T24CNG651U

Pretty much on the same water vessel as you Kuragiman and xxx amount of other simmers. Even though I am not a streamer the background "screen saver" sounds pretty amazing in itself. 

Plus for any trackir users it'll be trackir ready (from the sounds of it on their site). 

Counting the months until retiring ezdok, but for sure ezdok has done and served its purpose very well over the years. Teadiousenessess (??) were a mine field, but worth it when it got working how you wanted it to :)

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I have it, and it's a GAME CHANGER.  There is nothing at all like it, and I was impressed in the first 60 seconds beyond what I can describe here.

 

If you'd like to see a great demo and explaniation by the developer, check out the OVPA Web Conference - there are two recordings, the full Flight Sim Web Conference, and the FSFX Packages except.

 

By the way, keep a watch for Part 2 of the Web Conference coming soon... same developers. This will be the Developer Round Table, subject is "The Future of Flight Simulation".  Register on the OVPA Website to receive news and updates.

 

Flight Sim Web Conference Youtube link

 

Best wishes everyone.

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I hope it will be able to assign not only keys but also dx buttons generated by 3+ joystics and in sufficient numbers like EZDOK does (40 views assignable to joystick buttons from 3 joystics in VC alone!!), imagine I use all of them with my CHFighterstick, CHThrottle and CHPeddles via CHManager. It works much better in MSFS/P3D than TrackIR, particularly for procedural sims (PMDG etc). TrackIR is for DCS, F4, Il2)

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I have it, and it's a GAME CHANGER.  There is nothing at all like it, and I was impressed in the first 60 seconds beyond what I can describe here.

 

Whereas I am an happy owner of PrecipitFX and Lear35 Immersion and I fully trust this house, I am still looking for the "game changing" part within this tool. I watched this new presentation and I came to same conclusion as after the first video announcement. Except for a more modern and intuitive user interface, I simply can't see anything that I can do with it that I can't do now with Ezdok.

 

Anyway, I am open to change my mind.

 

 

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Whereas I am an happy owner of PrecipitFX and Lear35 Immersion and I fully trust this house, I am still looking for the "game changing" part within this tool. I watched this new presentation and I came to same conclusion as after the first video announcement. Except for a more modern and intuitive user interface, I simply can't see anything that I can do with it that I can't do now with Ezdok.

 

Anyway, I am open to change my mind.

 

 

 

 

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Except for a more modern and intuitive user interface, I simply can't see anything that I can do with it that I can't do now with Ezdok.

 

The interface and the way it's done is enough to make me change but on the technical side of it I like the fact that ChasePlane uses the sim data from the aircraft to generate the head shakes and turbulence shakes.   EZDOK does not.  It uses random generators to simulate the look... ChasePlane is creating shake and effects because of direct force being applied in the sim.   Also... a static World camera that works would be really nice.  NEVER could get EZDOK to work properly when it comes to world cameras in P3D.    It just looks easier to work with than EZDOK, looks better, seems to operate better.    As long as it's not priced ridiculously it is totally a worthy replacement.

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The interface and the way it's done is enough to make me change but on the technical side of it I like the fact that ChasePlane uses the sim data from the aircraft to generate the head shakes and turbulence shakes.   EZDOK does not.  It uses random generators to simulate the look... ChasePlane is creating shake and effects because of direct force being applied in the sim.   Also... a static World camera that works would be really nice.  NEVER could get EZDOK to work properly when it comes to world cameras in P3D.    It just looks easier to work with than EZDOK, looks better, seems to operate better.    As long as it's not priced ridiculously it is totally a worthy replacement.

 

Brian,

Ezdok world cameras work fine in FSX Steam. I have not less than 30 world cameras around the globe in the airports I use most. I don't have P3D, but I can't see any logical reason why it should not work there too. There is a tutorial on how to change variables in case you have problems with creating World cameras. But I agree, Ezdok is not the friendliest of addons and requires a lot of immersion before you can properly handle it and take the most out of it. ChasePlane appears to be more intuitive. However, these are only talks and speculations. Only once installed and fully integrated in our systems, we can conclude whether it is a real step forward compared to Ezdok or not.

 

I concur, if it is not priced ridiculously, I'll maybe give a try.

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Ezdok world cameras work fine in FSX Steam

 

:)   And thus the reason this thread is in the P3D forums and not the FSX forums.  EZDOK does not work properly in P3D and they are far to slow in keeping up with P3D and it's changing environment.   I am glad we have an alternative coming for the P3D platform.   I have used EZDOK since my first day getting into this sim business back in my FSX days.  I salute the old dog and all it has done for me but I want a new poodle to parade around!   :lol:

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:)   And thus the reason this thread is in the P3D forums and not the FSX forums.  EZDOK does not work properly in P3D and they are far to slow in keeping up with P3D and it's changing environment.   I am glad we have an alternative coming for the P3D platform.   I have used EZDOK since my first day getting into this sim business back in my FSX days.  I salute the old dog and all it has done for me but I want a new poodle to parade around!   :lol:

Not sure why you say Ezdok doesn't work properly in P3D. Works fine for me and all the folks making P3D videos on Youtube, using EZdok.  

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I have it, and it's a GAME CHANGER.  There is nothing at all like it, and I was impressed in the first 60 seconds beyond what I can describe here.

 

Are you saying that as a beta tester or customer?

As far as I know, it hasn't been released yet, or am I mistaking?

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Whereas I am an happy owner of PrecipitFX and Lear35 Immersion and I fully trust this house, I am still looking for the "game changing" part within this tool. I watched this new presentation and I came to same conclusion as after the first video announcement. Except for a more modern and intuitive user interface, I simply can't see anything that I can do with it that I can't do now with Ezdok.

 

Anyway, I am open to change my mind.

 

 

Same here.

After some time learning EZDOK it's simply everything I need it it be.

Wanna see reviews of this product and will decide then.

Got all the other stuff from this guys so I'm not hating :)

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Not sure why you say Ezdok doesn't work properly in P3D. Works fine for me and all the folks making P3D videos on Youtube, using EZdok.  

 

Bob,

can you please confirm that World cameras are also working on P3D? Version 1.187 solved several problems in FSX Steam. However, in case you have problems with World cameras, try this tutorial. It is very simple and straightforward (it is for FSX, but I guess it should apply to P3D as well).

 

 

:)   And thus the reason this thread is in the P3D forums and not the FSX forums.  EZDOK does not work properly in P3D and they are far to slow in keeping up with P3D and it's changing environment.   I am glad we have an alternative coming for the P3D platform.   I have used EZDOK since my first day getting into this sim business back in my FSX days.  I salute the old dog and all it has done for me but I want a new poodle to parade around!   :lol:

 

Sorry for invading your side. :-)

Point is, this addon will be released for both sims and both aisles are obviously interested. One thing I think we can all agree on is that we could not survive without a kind of cam manager.

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Bob,
can you please confirm that World cameras are also working on P3D? Version 1.187 solved several problems in FSX Steam. However, in case you have problems with World cameras, try this tutorial. It is very simple and straightforward (it is for FSX, but I guess it should apply to P3D as well).

 

Actually, I never use the world camera. Almost every flight I do, goes from an airport I just landed at to an airport that I most likely have never flown to, so having a camera setup at different airports would be a mind boggling task. I just use external views and internal aircraft views. 

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Are you saying that as a beta tester or customer?

As far as I know, it hasn't been released yet, or am I mistaking?

 

It's not released yet. Please see my signature.

 

Thanks, and best wishes!

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Not sure why you say Ezdok doesn't work properly in P3D. Works fine for me and all the folks making P3D videos on Youtube, using EZdok.  

 

95% of EZDOK works great in P3D but as I saw in your response above, so you don't think you are aware, the world camera function does not work in P3D.  This camera isn't used much unless you are a FSX/P3D video maker.   You need world camera views in order to recreate 'Plane Spotter' like shots or just general shots to show off the airport you are at rather than the plane you are flying.

 

Barrel Owl, I'll check out that video at home to see if it works.   The thing is.. you shouldn't need a video to make anything work as intended.   It should just... work.    The Dev for EZDOK has basically patch worked EZDOK together on the P3D side of things to get it to work (which I am grateful for) but I would like the product polished up so you just plug and play.    I'll snag ChasePlane when it releases and do a full review of my own I am sure.  Based on what I watched from the Dev video though I'll be retiring the old dog.   Until then (hugs Ezdok) my old faithful puppy will do just fine.

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It's not released yet. Please see my signature.

 

Thanks, and best wishes!

Dave...loving your OVPA 2016 web conference! https://youtu.be/_QaonTKkTT4

 

BTW you don't seem to have a signature… and on checking, while I do have a signature, it's not showing up anymore… WT Frack ! <- just in case you wondered Jim, that is a euphemism.

 

Regards,

 

Chas

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Thank you!

 

Signatures show up for me.

Stay tuned for a Live Part 2 of the Flight Sim Web Conference.

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FSFX, please stop bashing on your competitor, your product looks very good without that.

 

I'm using EZDOK and am very happy that it exists. Yes, the interface isn't the best, but it was (and still is) there when I need(ed) it.

 

Edit: Apart from the video, your blog contains this:

A public Alpha Program will start in Early November for early adopters and for people who can't stand the software they are currently using.

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FSFX, please stop

 

My friend,

 

You're pretty far off center line, in fact I'd say you were side stepping.

 

Nobody at FSFX bashed anyone or any product.  The original post (from which the title was derived) was made by someone who is absolutely not affiliated with FSFX. And while I'm not directly affliated with FSFX, the only thing I said about the product was that I've used it, and it's a game changer.  Not sure how that can be taken as bashing.

 

With the above in mind, would you kindly stop bashing FSFX for something they are absolutely not involved in?  Please? 

 

 

Best wishes.

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Dave, I wasn't referring to the original post, but to the video made by FSFX and the blog by FSFX.

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My apologies Thomas, that wasn't clear to me.

 

I don't think I've seen an FSFX video where they bashed other products, though during the OVPA Flight Sim Web Conference that I hosted, I did compare Chase Plane to similar products I'd used/evaluated and I noted just how quick and easy Chase Plane is to setup/use/reconfigure. But again, I'm not aware of any bashing.

 

Again, my apologies for not understanding your comment, and  my very best wishes to you.

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No worries :)

 

I already like what I have seen from Chase Plane, and it seems like a logical upgrade from Ezdok, so I just hope that they say "hey, look, we have a great product" without needing to do something that I (and some others here) perceived as side blows.

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These are payware products so there is no need to protect anybody's feelings. The chaseplane devs have a right to point out how their interface is better than ezdok

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