February 23, 20179 yr Just to be clear - the only benchmarks which have been "backed up by independent reviewers" are the same 4 benchmarks AMD showed on stage, when they allowed said reviewers backstage to run the same benchmarks for themselves. That does not qualify as a proper review. March 2nd will give us a more complete picture of Ryzen. You will see no difference that amounts to a pee hole in a snowbank! In fact this first edition is only the beginning, the engineering data, architecture, speak volumes to me. The newer Vulcan apps will utilize n/cores that are all multi threading at the same time. But, my old FX 8359 and RX-480 gives me 30 FPS at KJFK with ASN. A 52% increase in IPC along with RX-490 Vega will fit the bill nicely for me and at a bargain price to boot. Would love to see ASUS come out with a mobo like the L1N64-SLI WS. With todays cooling it would be a killer machine, the old one was it was a bit to loud I admit. Running FSX on that machine gave me FPS's that spiked at 80 FPS at times. Some said it was too expensive, they were right, but, it was a lot of fun running those two FX-57's. Best BaldyB
February 23, 20179 yr You will see no difference that amounts to a pee hole in a snowbank! In fact this first edition is only the beginning, the engineering data, architecture, speak volumes to me. The newer Vulcan apps will utilize n/cores that are all multi threading at the same time. But, my old FX 8359 and RX-480 gives me 30 FPS at KJFK with ASN. A 52% increase in IPC along with RX-490 Vega will fit the bill nicely for me and at a bargain price to boot. Would love to see ASUS come out with a mobo like the L1N64-SLI WS. With todays cooling it would be a killer machine, the old one was it was a bit to loud I admit. Running FSX on that machine gave me FPS's that spiked at 80 FPS at times. Some said it was too expensive, they were right, but, it was a lot of fun running those two FX-57's. Best BaldyB I am not calling into question the validity of the benchmark results, I am saying there are too few of them. 4 tests comprised of 2 games, a rendering application, and a video encoder do not a review make. We need more data to draw an accurate picture of the overall performance of Ryzen. What we have seen so far looks good for the most part. As I've said a number of times now however, the comparison between an 8 core/16 thread Ryzen and a 4 core/8 thread 7700k in the video editing encoding application (Handbrake) is concerning because Ryzen has twice the threads but only 15% more performance. The logical question to ask then is: how does Ryzen perform against 6, 8, and 10 core Intel chips in this application? Following up on that, what does this mean for performance in other applications? Hence, we need actual reviews to answer these questions and others.
February 23, 20179 yr people must think ryzen is gonna be the new golden cpu, most of the preorder motherboards and the cpu i looked into are sold out on amazon and newegg.i was gonna buy the x1800 at launch with an asus motherboard. now there is a reason behind my madness.i am building my 8 year old his first gaming computer. i am gonna run my current 7700k system next to the ryzen build and see which one comes out on top for x-plane and p3d. my son lives with his mother 1,000 miles away from me, so i plan on doing some multiplayer with him when the time comes.i have already tought my 8 year old to fly the aerosoft a320.its amazing home quick an 8 year old can sponge things up quick.
February 23, 20179 yr people must think ryzen is gonna be the new golden cpu, most of the preorder motherboards and the cpu i looked into are sold out on amazon and newegg.i was gonna buy the x1800 at launch with an asus motherboard. now there is a reason behind my madness.i am building my 8 year old his first gaming computer. i am gonna run my current 7700k system next to the ryzen build and see which one comes out on top for x-plane and p3d. my son lives with his mother 1,000 miles away from me, so i plan on doing some multiplayer with him when the time comes.i have already tought my 8 year old to fly the aerosoft a320.its amazing home quick an 8 year old can sponge things up quick. Great plan! I hope you share your results with us. I'm debating doing the same, though I'm confident of the outcome already since I'm an FSX/P3D simmer first and everything else distant second.
February 23, 20179 yr Great plan! I hope you share your results with us. I'm debating doing the same, though I'm confident of the outcome already since I'm an FSX/P3D simmer first and everything else distant second. I feel for FSX / P3d simmers the Ryzen should be pretty decent if not excellent if you look at the single threaded performance but only real world usage will show how it stacks up so better to wait till a few days after the launch. It's actually not bad. Ryzen 5 1600x - 16GB DDR4 - RTX 3050 8GB - MSI Gaming Plus
February 23, 20179 yr people must think ryzen is gonna be the new golden cpu, most of the preorder motherboards and the cpu i looked into are sold out on amazon and newegg They are getting discounted already in the UK, wonder why that is if they are in so much demand ? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/processors/amd/amd-socket-am4
February 23, 20179 yr They are getting discounted already in the UK, wonder why that is if they are in so much demand ? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/processors/amd/amd-socket-am4 LOL. Ok buddy, whatever you say.
February 23, 20179 yr Great plan! I hope you share your results with us. I'm debating doing the same, though I'm confident of the outcome already since I'm an FSX/P3D simmer first and everything else distant second. yes i will share my results, if it hold true in the past, intel will still be better for p3d and x-plane.intel and nvidia always seemed to work better. i hope i am wrong.either way ryzen will be a good budget price for people.
February 23, 20179 yr LOL. Ok buddy, whatever you say. It's not what I say, the prices being cut before it even goes on sale speaks volumes, If it's in such demand why would one of the UK's best online shops do that ?
February 23, 20179 yr price gouging has already set in at amazon https://www.amazon.com/AMD-YD180XBCAEWOF-Ryzen-1800X-Processor/dp/B06W9JXK4G/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1487879290&sr=8-15&keywords=amd+ryzen&refinements=p_89%3AAMD
February 23, 20179 yr price gouging has already set in at amazon Not in the Uk it hasn't. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/processors/amd/amd-socket-am4
February 23, 20179 yr It's not what I say, the prices being cut before it even goes on sale speaks volumes, If it's in such demand why would one of the UK's best online shops do that ? I honestly can't tell if you're being serious. If you are, I suggest you do some research on competition in the retail sector in order to understand that: 1) this is not unprecdented, in fact it is a common tactic 2) lowering the price does not indicate a lack of demand
February 25, 20179 yr Exciting times. I'm pretty sure Intel will have to drastically reduce their over-priced monopolist cpu when they see the results from AMD performance. Personally, I do not feed the greed. As soon as AMD proves to be top-notch I am not going throw my hard-earned dollars at Intel... I will support AMD big time as I did 10 years ago.
February 25, 20179 yr 5 hours ago, joemiller said: Exciting times. I'm pretty sure Intel will have to drastically reduce their over-priced monopolist cpu when they see the results from AMD performance. Personally, I do not feed the greed. As soon as AMD proves to be top-notch I am not going throw my hard-earned dollars at Intel... I will support AMD big time as I did 10 years ago. Interesting Article: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/01/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-review/
February 25, 20179 yr On 2/11/2017 at 1:05 PM, overspeed3 said: I donno? Apparently, Intel is not too concerned at the moment anyway - they just announced the building of a new huge factory in Arizona - plunking down $7 billion. This, even though their stock value in the market has been in the doldrums for a long, long time. (I myself got a pretty good rig in Nov. 2015 with the 6700k chip, not O/C, using FSX-SE - I've been happy with it so far). Intel is Having "yuge" problems implementing 10nm. The 7 billion could work against them in the market? Best BaldyB
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