On ‎2‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 1:01 AM, Glynn said:

Intel looking even sweeter now  I7-7700K @ $299, makes those Ryzen chips look a bit expensive now.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/472529/Core_i7-7700K_Kaby_Lake_42_GHz_LGA_1151_Boxed_Processor

And they haven't even started with their famous "incentives" to the big computer companies yet, going to be a rough ride for AMD.

 

Even if Intel brought their products down to $10.00 a chip.. I don't care. I will NOT support a company who has repeatedly raped its customers. You are ok with that? Fine, go for it.

5 hours ago, joemiller said:

Even if Intel brought their products down to $10.00 a chip.. I don't care. I will NOT support a company who has repeatedly raped its customers. You are ok with that? Fine, go for it.

I'm fine with it, every Intel chip I bought was faster than AMD, was I raped ?

 

What are you using at the moment ?

It's a monopoly and every organization would do that.

But now with the price drops from Intel it would be great if someone wants to different CPUs.

11 hours ago, Charlatan said:

Spot on, we've just bought our 1st home at 41 years old, as my parents gave us some money towards a deposit

 

Yep that's the usual scenario. Generosity of parents. It's nuts it really is. Great for those of us that already have houses of course, as they rise in price like a rocket [although irrelevant if moving to another house] but dreadful for those attempting to get on the housing ladder. And for those that have a house and are moving, you are often beaten to it by those buying to let, they get the house as they have no chain. Rents too are ridiculous.

Fantastic you now have a house!!! Really pleased for you. And apologies to all for drifting off topic.  

20 hours ago, martin-w said:

Typical rip-off Britain. £488.99 here in UK, so equivalent to $607.19 in US. Ripped off by £108.

Here in Sweden, the 1800X is SEK 5699, or $630.

Never challenge Sweden on expensive consumer goods (or gas prices). We always win. Or lose, depending on how you view it.

That single thread comparison a few pages back was comparing the 4 core i7 7700k with the new Ryzen 8 core CPUs. I think we need to wait for the 4 core Ryzen chips before we can make a proper comparison of single threaded performance. After all, the Ryzen 1800x and 1700x are above the i7 6900k in that list.

2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

That single thread comparison a few pages back was comparing the 4 core i7 7700k with the new Ryzen 8 core CPUs. I think we need to wait for the 4 core Ryzen chips before we can make a proper comparison of single threaded performance. After all, the Ryzen 1800x and 1700x are above the i7 6900k in that list.

While fine in theory, we already know precisely what AMD will offer with their 6 and 4 core chips.  The 1800x is the highest clocking chip from the entire Ryzen family.  There will be a 4 core model that clocks 100MHz lower (both base and turbo).  https://www.techpowerup.com/230916/pricing-of-entire-amd-ryzen-lineup-revealed

So it's the 2nd today, expect some end user reviews to pop up in the following days, the true colors of Ryzen will be seen.

 

The 2nd is tomorrow for the U.S., which is where the NDA expiration date and time are set.  

I expect reviews from Asia / Europe starting tomorrow. We live in the future you know :)

hmm if the NDA is according to the US then I wonder why the vendor has listed the 2nd of March.

Hmm isn't 2nd the launch date ? I mean if someone has pre-ordered it won't he / she get it on the same day ?

10 hours ago, martin-w said:

 

Yep that's the usual scenario. Generosity of parents. It's nuts it really is. Great for those of us that already have houses of course, as they rise in price like a rocket [although irrelevant if moving to another house] but dreadful for those attempting to get on the housing ladder. And for those that have a house and are moving, you are often beaten to it by those buying to let, they get the house as they have no chain. Rents too are ridiculous.

Fantastic you now have a house!!! Really pleased for you. And apologies to all for drifting off topic.  

Sorry to stray a little more, but Martin I couldn't agree more how big of a problem this is. I live in the PNW where a lot of lovely ORBX scenery is made and the housing and rent prices have increased at an astronomical rate due in part to so many people moving here, namely California where they sell there home for a million bucks and buy one here for half the price. Well the wages here are a joke and as you stated anyone who didn't already have a house to sell now has to spend all there income on rent/mortgage. Guess what happened to the economy... Well good for the 100,000 California's that moved up here in the past 2 years with all that money, but when it runs out good luck finding a job to support that $2400 a month mortgage for a basic 3 bedroom cookie cutter row house. Sorry for the vent.... So yes I live across the street from where these great Intel chips are made, massive place let me tell ya, but I say GO AMD! We all need there help in kicking Intel's butt back into the performance side of things.

 

2 hours ago, HumptyDumpty said:

I expect reviews from Asia / Europe starting tomorrow. We live in the future you know :)

hmm if the NDA is according to the US then I wonder why the vendor has listed the 2nd of March.

Supposedly the NDA lifts at 9AM EST on the 2nd of March. Same date and time for the entire world, but obviously local times will vary. For some, it will lift in the early morning on the 2nd, for others in the afternoon. For some it might already be early in the morning on the 3rd.

Tech sites are probably working on the reviews right now so they'll be ready to hit the publish button as soon as the NDA lifts. They've had access to the CPUs for a while.

Not sure how retailers in Oceania are going to handle the NDA. They will have closed for the day before they're allowed to sell the CPUs, so you probably won't be able to buy them until the 3rd there. Online stores might ship them out early so people receive their orders on the 3rd.

alot of benchmarks are coming out on youtube, if those are correct, it's not looking good for amd, i was excited and was gonna sell my 7700k build for ryzen, i think i might change my mind about that. i hope some better benchmarks come out showing amd wins by a large margin.

Looks like the 1700 overclocks to 4 ghz on air! Nearly on par with 7700k, and of course destroys it on multi-processing tasks. 

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-3dmark-multithreaded-benchmarks-leaked/