If you watch this video below, Noctua are releasing not one, but three coolers for Ryzen. They haven't done that before with an AMD cooler. Which suggests that they know something we don't know. They're under the NDA of course. Suggests they think it will be VERY popular CPU.

 

47:25 on.

 

 

 

http://noctua.at/en/home-product/nh-d15-se-am4

We have a Huge Winner- AMD 1800X . And at 1/2 th price?  Wow. Intel must be sweating 24/7

 

I bet a lot that Intel is not sweating at all when they look at AMD.

Wait for benchmarks.

I bet a lot that Intel is not sweating at all when they look at AMD.

Wait for benchmarks.

 

Well, check this out... If this Chip brings the same (or slightly better), performance than Intel's 6900K  @ half the price, I guarantee you one would prefer to save $500.00 than throwing it away. Just my guess- or reality. But, hey, let's wait and see. 

Well, check this out... If this Chip brings the same (or slightly better), performance than Intel's 6900K  @ half the price, I guarantee you one would prefer to save $500.00 than throwing it away. Just my guess- or reality. But, hey, let's wait and see. 

 

How much would you bet on this scenario?

How much would you bet on this scenario?

 

Doesn't matter if it's slightly worse. When coupled with AMD's Vega graphics it will be something Intel cannot beat. Intel cannot develop a graphics chip worth putting on a card, what they have on board is a joke. I suppose that's the reason they just made a deal with AMD/ATI for better imbedded graphic chips? I have owned high end NVidia Cards, paid $600.00+ way back for a 6800 GTX. It was good when NVidia fixed the drivers, before that it stuttered, crashed a few time Etc. All that is understandable to a point. With AMD I never had stuttering, crashes, but even tho the picture was not as crisp at times I never had a problem with fluidity or OOM's, even at low FPS.

The Queen II with my recent $230.00 RX-480 is stunning in all respects. The VC textures are so sharp it's amazing.  I don't mind paying at all for a product that's worth the money, the Queen in my opinion is worth every cent, as is the 480.

My old ASUS Sabertooth V1 with AMD 8053 is getting old but it still does a good job @4.4GH with the new 8GB vid card. When I do a new build it will be a killer machine, I guarantee it!

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BaldyB

Denis Bolduc

Doesn't matter if it's slightly worse. When coupled with AMD's Vega graphics it will be something Intel cannot beat.

 

All you do is speculating ;-)

Before there is no benchmark I simply don't believe that AMD will be faster / better than Intel + NVidia.

 

PS: The Queen is stunning with a 1080 GTX too ;-) Just looked up the RX480 - a crossfire setup is slower then a single 1080? So we are talking about performance here? Not really.

 

All I hear is  talking without having any benchmarks or whatever. I really would love to see a good alternative to Intel + NVidia. But all I see is a gigantic hypetrain....

 

PPS: I had a lot of AMD stuff before Intel brought the Core architecture. After this AMD did not have a chance regarding performance. I am at no means a Intel / NVidia fan - I buy whatever is the fastest and do not care about the logo on it.

But again - wait for benchmarks before jumping on the bandwagon.

All you do is speculating ;-)

Before there is no benchmark I simply don't believe that AMD will be faster / better than Intel + NVidia.

 

PS: The Queen is stunning with a 1080 GTX too ;-) Just looked up the RX480 - a crossfire setup is slower then a single 1080? So we are talking about performance here? Not really.

 

All I hear is  talking without having any benchmarks or whatever. I really would love to see a good alternative to Intel + NVidia. But all I see is a gigantic hypetrain....

 

PPS: I had a lot of AMD stuff before Intel brought the Core architecture. After this AMD did not have a chance regarding performance. I am at no means a Intel / NVidia fan - I buy whatever is the fastest and do not care about the logo on it.

But again - wait for benchmarks before jumping on the bandwagon.

 

I said Intel couldn't make a graphics chip that was worth putting on a card. Didn't say that about NVidia! I do not run the 480 in cross fire, don't give a hoot about that!  My $230.00 480 looks as good as my friends NVidia 970, 10xx does as far as I can see. And by the way, they agree and were surprised. My eyes are my guide!

I did not make any claims to actual performance regarding AMD's RYZEN CPU's or upcoming platforms. I simply stated that the design looks good. Of course you wait to see how good! 

AMD did show at an event how they were running a war game next to an Intel high end cpu and matching it's performance, they must have been cheating right?

If and when I spend a grand on a video card it had better be something real special and make coffee too.

When I use Flyinside VR I can read the gauges with no problems, period.

I owned a computer store, a networking company, wired many a building. I made a ton of money writing POS systems with Paradox 3.5. Wrote many systems for Machine Shops, so the manager could get on a computer and tell a customer in what stage of completion his job was in and when he could expect to receive it, all without getting out of his chair, some shops had 100's of jobs in progress. 

I had computers long before Mr. Watson from IBM said their is no market or use for personal computers.

But thanks for the sdvise.

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BaldyB

Denis Bolduc

AMD did show at an event how they were running a war game next to an Intel high end cpu and matching it's performance, they must have been cheating right?

 

 

So you got all this experience and you jump on the hypetrain because of a show by AMD?!? :-)

 

Come on, all I say is: Wait for a real benchmark. You don't need to write 25 lines just to look butthurt.

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I built 100's of systems using AMD cpu's, after getting one of the very 1st Athlon cpu's in the UK many years ago, and being so impressed, I switched my computer systems company to AMD only, I wouldn't touch an Intel for years. 

 

I swapped over again when the Q6600 came out, and was easily clockable to 3.3ghz.  I haven't had an AMD chip since, as their performance was frankly pathetic compared to even low end intel cpus.

 

I'm hoping this "Ryzen" rewrites the rules, but frankly, I wouldn't count on it

@Charlatan Same here. I used AMDs up until Athlon64 X2. I switched for the Intel Core architecure. Since these days there are simply no matches on AMD side.

I really hope for a good competitor, also on GPU side! I really like AMD - but what I like more is performance. And whoever delievers performance will be bought. Simple.

 

So I don't get all this arguing about a piece of hardware. I understand that one likes Intel and others like AMD - but at the moment all I see is talking without evidence. I want to have a BENCHMARK. A real life benchmark. And if AMD offers the same performance like Intel for half the price - oh yes, please! But sorry, I cannot believe all these "wonders" that are claimed to happen at the moment. Maybe I will be proven wrong - that's ok for me. We will see.

There was a time when AMD built really good CPUs. There is no reason why they can't do the same again.

So I don't get all this arguing about a piece of hardware. I understand that one likes Intel and others like AMD - but at the moment all I see is talking without evidence. I want to have a BENCHMARK. A real life benchmark. And if AMD offers the same performance like Intel for half the price - oh yes, please! But sorry, I cannot believe all these "wonders" that are claimed to happen at the moment. Maybe I will be proven wrong - that's ok for me. We will see.

I think you might be misunderstanding. No one is saying Ryzen WILL be awesome. People are just excited by the leaked benchmarks and comments they have read. People are just optimistic that finally AMD "might" be a comptitor for Intel. The experts are just as optimistic as we are for this platform.

 

They are no more certain about this than you.

Ok, then we are all thinking the same ;-)

Ok, then we are all thinking the same ;-)

 

 

Well yes we were really. 

 

In my opinion, the chances of Ryzen challenging Intel are about 60/40 in favour. When reputable companies like Noctua have not one but three high end coolers lined up for Ryzen, it obviously suggests that they anticipate the need for a high end cooler. That the CPU will be very popular and that enthusiasts will be pushing it to the limits. They know of course as they are testing the cooler under the NDA.

 

Pure speculation of course, so we shall see.