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FSL A320X - Performance, VAS, etc. Reports

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Ok just installed the A320X into my P3D install.

 

Let me preface by saying I don't have the latest and greatest computer.  i2500K @ 4.7.  GTX970, pretty slow/old RAM.

 

ORBX Global, Vector and LC installed (Vector at very reasonable settings for jets).  I pretty much follow the P3D guide posted here.

 

I started up at Fly Tampa Toronto which for me (and many others) is a VAS killing OOM machine.  I have toned it down as much as I can.

 

AS2016 / ASCA Weather - Real weather today cloudy light rain.

 

 

Installed standared 2048 textures in the A320X installer. Same as my FSX install.

 

OK started on runway 05 and taxied to the other runway, past all terminal.

 

Here are the results.

 

 

Situation             FPS            VAS Remaining (FSUIPC)

Start                    26               832

Taxi                     21               747

Spin inside VC     22               693

Spin outside        21                675

 

All above without AI.  I added in AI - 10% MyTrafficProfessional.  very slight drop in VAS.

 

 

Took off and flew around, pretty smooth at least for my rig,   After flying for 20 min, VAS now 497.

 

 

My guess is this aircraft will be able to make it to another payware airport, maybe not I will have to try this weekend when I have time and will report back.

 

EDIT - My LOD is 4.5 which is my normal jets setting.

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Mark - if you could live with Orbx Vector disabled when flying the A320-X, I bet you could add 10-15% to those figures.   There's been a lot of talk about the impact of Vector with this bird, over on the FSL forums.   I deactivated it (temporarily, using Scenery Config Editor) and saw a little under 15% improvement.

 

No issues with Global or OpenLC, but Vector is a resource hog.

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Thanks for the tip, easy to do with SIMStarterNG.  


Well here you go.  Same settings only this time at UK2000 EGLL.  Frames 26 and VAS remaining 1043.  Maybe its a Fly Tampa problem.

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Thanks Mark. I would suggest to do a comparison to another complex aircraft so that folks have a reference point.

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The FSL is 300 Mb heavier on VAS than the PMDG 777.

Wow... that's much worse than I'm seeing in my beta testing of the PMDG 744.

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The FSL is 300 Mb heavier on VAS than the PMDG 777.

 

 

Very sad fact that means "no purchase" for me. Hope 64-bit would solve the issue.  

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So just did a quick flight from UK2000 EGLL to UK2000 EGKK, perfectly fine flight, very smooth FPS 26 - 28 and VAS remaining never dipped below 950.  

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So just did a quick flight from UK2000 EGLL to UK2000 EGKK, perfectly fine flight, very smooth FPS 26 - 28 and VAS remaining never dipped below 950.  

 

 

Is it still with Global/Vector/Open LC Combo?

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Is it still with Global/Vector/Open LC Combo?

 

yes, exactly the same settings as I have in Toronto

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Could you tell us a bit about the options in the airplane? Like, how do you load fuel and cargo/pax? Is it in the fmc, outside sim application etc? Do you navigate options like the options in the fmc in the new type pmdg line? Are there many options?

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yes, exactly the same settings as I have in Toronto

 

 

Very strange Mark. Did you have this VAS difference between CYYZ and EGLL before, with PMDG birds? I see that it might be scenery issue

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Fuel and Cargo are loaded via the FMC/MCDU. Options are also in the MCDU for doors, ground support, display settings etc. 

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Very strange Mark. Did you have this VAS difference between CYYZ and EGLL before, with PMDG birds? I see that it might be scenery issue

 

Yes it is a scenery issue, the Fly Tampa Toronto airport is a disaster when it comes to VAS.

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Flight from Fly Tampa CYYZ to Fly Tampa CYUL.  Totally flyable very nice flight.

 

P3D 3.4 HF2.

AS2016 and ASCA

ORBX Global, Vector and LC all on for this flight.  Vector has highways, secondary and railroads, plus beaches.

Chaseplane - Being Used.

Fly Tampa airports, turned of a bunch of stuff but still had ground vehicles, etc.

MyTraffic Professional installed.  8% traffic.

 

Situation                  FPS                  VAS

CYYZ gate                 21                   751

Takeoff                      22                    557

Cruise                      37-30              Started at 656 and built to 811 at TOD

Final                           22                    724

Gate                           25                     718

 

Here is my P3D.cfg

 

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This was one of the things that got me banned from their forum. Back in the fsx release. They blamed my system and me complaining about high vas usage just me being a troll and troublemaker. I had to turn sliders down or disable so much scenery just to get an acceptable stable level. And even then I could not complete multiple legs of a flight I had to restart the sim, no other aircraft does that to me. In the streams of people I've seen like Belynz they claimed vas improved a lot each beta release for p3d but it looks like they kept adding little animations such as cabin lights and textures, even steam coming from the wings if you turn anti-ice on. And yet all this adds to vas. They got addicted to eye candy and no regard for performance impact. The stream guys are slobbering over fsl and trashing pmdg, Belynz just called PMDG "the Carenado of jets" because they create a realistic pilot sim and save vas even though the 777 has a high vas footprint but do not do all this pointless eye candy.

 

I don't think it is going to get much better, they take everything personally on that forum and mistake your suggestions and bugs for being insulting. I didn't buy Orbx Vector just to have to turn it off for every Airbus flight. Thankfully I got my refund on the fsl and I'm hoping the P3d version of the PMDG 747 is not going to break the bank.

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Thankfully I got my refund on the fsl and I'm hoping the P3d version of the PMDG 747 is not going to break the bank.

 

Do you honestly believe the PMDG 747 will be cheaper? RSR already said that pricing will be in line with the 777. And the 777 is 134.95 for P3D. The 747 will be at least that.

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Do you honestly believe the PMDG 747 will be cheaper? RSR already said that pricing will be in line with the 777. And the 777 is 134.95 for P3D. The 747 will be at least that.

similar to the 777 is okay. I got worried it is going to be a lot more because of all the models it comes with.

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similar to the 777 is okay. I got worried it is going to be a lot more because of all the models it comes with.

 

I'm pretty sure that they will use that as an explanation why it will be more expensive than the 777. If I had to take a guess, I would say it will be at least 139.95 or even 149.95...

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