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I would like to get one of the two wide bodies, I just cannot decide which one, I like them both. One has been around for a while and the other one is brand new. Personally i like them both and I don't have a real preference.

Does anyone have a pros/cons list of reasons for selecting one or the other? meaning, reasons related to hardware, bugs (if any), flying difficulty, realism or else

 

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You have to think harder and figure out which one you like more and there's your answer :)

I don't own the v3 but my 777 is flawless and it looks like it all boils down to personal preference.

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just close your eyes and point your finger to the whatever you think is the best! :). Have both for P3D and when I fly 747, I cannot wait to fly 777. But when I fly 777 I cannot wait to fly 747 again. So they are equally amazing!!! 

 

On another note - 747 just came out with the latest and greatest code optimized product that they will eventually bring to 777 through further updates. That said - 747 maybe slightly (maybe very slightly) better optimized than 777. Personally I feel I get better VAS usage with 747. 

 

Happy flying! 

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There's more that needs to be done in the 744 cockpit andso I find it less boring (I have both).

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I do have them both as well. I found the 747 more nostalgic and appealing due to its posture.

 

I love the older quality lighting over the newer fresh citrus ones in the 777.

 

And then there is the fact the 747 has 4 engines to fire up, which means more fun to me (*÷*).

 

I love them both. But the 747 still remains the only legitimate Queen of the Skies!

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I have both as well, I like them both equally, they bring different things and experiences to the table.  Variety is a nice thing to have in FS.  FS would be boring if there were only one type of flying or one kind of plane to fly.  

 

Do you want lots automation and capability for the ULTRA long haul....as ultra as you can get....literally because the 777LR can literally fly between any two suitable airports on the planet.  Try a charter flight from NZCH -> LEMG  :wink:  ~ 20+ hr trip.  777 gives you both Pax, and Freighter models.  Personally I am really happy PMDG went with the LR as the base, because a lot of us like to haul freight.  The LRF is going tho be the world's mainstay freighter for future decades (along with the Queen Freighter) IMHO.  Some say the LR's automation makes it boring, which might be true if you leave the AP on alot.  I think the automation frees you up to 'fly' the plane more.  Remember, you don't have a first officer to manage radios, systems, read checklists...and such.

 

Do you want less automation (tho automated enough for a solo sim pilot to reasonably handle), for 'normal' long haul.  Both planes can be configured for High Density short haul as well.  The Queen comes with the HD 'D' model, as as many other sub-variants.  

 

I have a feeling you'll end up getting both lol.   Both are unique and have their 'quirks'.  PMDG gives you lots of configuration options for both planes.  

 

You can't go wrong with either.

 

Cheers

 

TJ

 

PS one big PLUS for the 777...GE90...A pair of THE most powerful jet engines in existence....at your finger tips, another thing which makes flying by hand a hoot.  To be fair the Queen comes with three engine choices (RR, PW, GE), as nice as the Queens engines are (they sound great too!), nothing quite like having the two GE monsters in your hands.  Its why in the piston world, warbirds, propliners, and vintage GAs might not have all the modern bells n whistles that today's plastic airplanes do, but no Lycoming or Continental will ever beat the raw power and beautiful sound of a purring big radial or V-12.  lol when I went to ERAU, no one would bat an eye if Cessna or Pipers were flying over, but would all race out of their dorms to look up if it was a P-51 or DC-3 or Beech 18 or whatever lol...its that 'sound' of POWER...nothing beats it :)  :p0502:

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Have both but the 744 seems so much better. Smoother and fun to hand fly. It may just be the new car smell of it but it is the best payware I have ever had. I wasn't even going to get it but it is a PMDG product so I knew I had to get it.

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Buy 'em both - It'll cost you north of $300 with expansions, but look upon it as a cost-per-hour-aloft.

How many hundreds (or thousands) of hours will you fly these aircraft ?

With the amount of sheer enjoyment to be had, I reckon either or both represent spectacular value for money.

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I have both. 

 

Its a really hard split as they are both long hauls. I would say if you want to do short haul and long haul get the 777, the 777 in my opinion is very easy and very automated, which is why I love it. It was the PMDG aircraft I started on. 

 

The 747 v3 is a beautiful aircraft and the one I take on long hauls e.g my recent heathrow to shanghai. I have about 2-5 fps loss in the 747 over the 777 but I am not really bothered about that as I am too distracted over the sheer beauty. 

 

As far as which I enjoy flying more, it'd be the 747 by a fraction just because the way the iconic virtual cockpit is. Whichever you choose you will be very happy with non the less. 

 

777- very automated, easy to learn 

747 - more hands on, takes a little longer to learn

 

If you watch my 747 video in my signature, youll see what I mean by the 747 being such a beauty in FSX!

 

thanks, 

Will

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I also have them both, for me the 747 would be the definite way to go.

 

On one hands side no German airline flies the 777 in pax service, on the other hands side I like the 747 more from a piloting point of view.

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In English and am not having a go at you Emanual it's just the wording is wrong :) it should read like this.

 

"On one hand no German airline flies the 777 in pax service, on the other hand I like the 747 more from a piloting point of view".

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"On one hand...".

 

And I've always thought it is 'On the one hand'.

You learn something every day. :smile:

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In English and am not having a go at you Emanual it's just the wording is wrong :) it should read like this.

 

"On one hand no German airline flies the 777 in pax service, on the other hand I like the 747 more from a piloting point of view".

 

 

It's "on the one hand", David - kind greetings from Germany!   :P

 

EDIT:

Rafal beat me to it - so kind greetings from Germany and from Poland, David!!!   :P :P

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Unpoular opinion - I like the 737 best :-)

 

All 3 are on top level - I own all 3. Cannot really decide which one is the best.

I am still waiting for FS2Crew for the Queen before start flying it more often.

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You can say that...

 

Its said more offend than not how I said it, but hey what do I know I just spent 54 years here :) 

 

All joking aside you can say it " On the one hand and on the other hand....."

 

How people ever lean English is beyond me.... i before e aspect after C and that's not always true....... :vava:

 

German's seem to speak it really well, I take my hat off to them.

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German's seem to speak it really well, I take my hat off to them.

 

I'm sure they do, but taking into consideration that German belongs to the same language family as English and shows a lot of similarity (both in grammar in vocabulary), just think of people of completely different language groups (my native language included) who seem to use very good if not perfect English here.

By the way are you sure about this apostrophe in your 'German's'? :P

 

I have thought (many times) what it must be like to be a native English speaker and be able not to care about learning other languages when everybody uses yours. It must be a nice feeling, I guess (envy mode).

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No am not sure about the 's, my gamma and spelling has always been terrible due to being dialectics and know one know about it when i was at school, so I just live with it.

 

If I spoke another language it would be Spanish. 

 

Yes we are very "lucky" to get the world speaking our language when you think how small the UK is. The yanks sort of speak English...J/K ofc.

 

Really am the last person to teach anyone English  :sad:

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(...)

 

German's seem to speak it really well, I take my hat off to them.

 

Except for Günther Oettinger. :P (Check out his YT vids!)

 

Back on topic:

It's the B747. You're all very welcome indeed.   :Party:

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 Except for Günther Oettinger. :P (Check out his YT vids!)

 

I've just checked - nice! Just a little tiny bit of German accent. :wink:

Must be a bit specific though - check this video at 04:16"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riwKuKSbFDs#

 

 

 Back on topic: It's the B747.

 

Fully agreed even though I haven't bought the Queen v3 yet (those FSX/P3D dilemmas...).

 

It is objectively newer, feature-richer, etc. But certainly it is also about personal preferences. I, for instance, have always felt love towards the Jumbo and never liked 777.

Of course I bought PMDG 777 (who could resist a PMDG jet for more than a month?) and it certainly is a great product but I found myself flying it way too seldom.

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