17 minutes ago, vololiberista said:

Ray,

I rather think it is the opposite case! you need to read up on CAP413 and CAP694 to bring yourself up to date.

You mean ATC checking on your altitude I presume. You can adjust by how much, when or if PF3 nags you or not on a host of options.

"Heavy" will always get a "no speed" subject to conditions.

In ICAO "heavy" is only used on initial contact. Whereas in FAA it's used all the time

Same with "IFR" used only for clearance delivery.

"Radar Contact" rarely used and only when an SRA is initiated.

"line-up and wait" not necessary if you are the only aircraft taking-off and nothing is landing. You will get take-off clearance at the hold. Normal practice in real life.

Correct RT terminology for published holds

And so on and so on. We are still culling and changing many of the incorrect or superfluous commands transferred over from PFE that RC 4 still and will always make.

I'm sorry Ray but the list is soooooooo long I can't put everything here.

In my opinion PFE was better than RC4. PF3 v.1 however was a huge step forward and now that we are testing v 3.4.3 means that it is more of a giant leap. PF3's version history is at least 16 pages and a great deal of that is not bugs but wish list items.

Thank you for finally coming up with a list of differences. People will now be able to judge if they wish to stay with RC4 or not. Personally I'm happy to as I have a Speedbird Concorde call sign which PF3 can't give me.

The reason I need the vertical watchdog turning off is Concorde's climb rate of 50fpm above FL500 is too low for RC4's watchdog. But that was a perfectly valid climb rate for that aircraft given nothing else was up at FL500 and above. Can PF3 ignore such small climb rates?

17 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 

The reason I need the vertical watchdog turning off is Concorde's climb rate of 50fpm above FL500 is too low for RC4's watchdog. But that was a perfectly valid climb rate for that aircraft given nothing else was up at FL500 and above. Can PF3 ignore such small climb rates?

Yes it can. It depends what you put into the aircraft preset. you might have to experiment a bit to get it exact.

4 minutes ago, vololiberista said:

Yes it can. It depends what you put into the aircraft preset. you might have to experiment a bit to get it exact.

Though the lowest value you can enter here is 500fpm.

But as vololiberista already wrote: In the options you can configure the altitude deviation at which PF3 starts to nag and the time after which the first nag occurs. But I understand that you want to disable/re-enable it during the flight. This is currently not possible (and I don't think there are plans for it, and I think our Concorde flyer in the beta team did not ask for it), but there might be something that can be used instead:

In PF3 (and PFE before that) you can request different altitudes than the currently assigned, e.g. using "H 2" for 2000 feet or 20 flight levels higher than the current altitude, or "L 4" for 4000ft or 40 flight levels lower. Of course the hotkeys can be changed.

So while you can't disable altitude nagging completely during the flight, you can set the deviation tolerance to e.g. 700 feet (default: 500 feet) and request the next altitude every 20 minutes (e.g. when assigned FL460 and you have climbed to roughly FL465, you can request "H 1" to be cleared for FL470, and so on. With the current beta you can even request "H 0" or "L 0" to stay at the current altitude, which is useful when icing conditions or engine trouble force you to stay at the current altitude, or if you used less fuel than expected (or did not plan fuel/payload well enough), so that the aircraft weight does not allow climbing further.

On 12/05/2017 at 8:56 PM, vololiberista said:

Another update 3.4.0 has been released with yet another 3.4.2 being tested as I speak.

Would it be possible to release a version of PF3 where you can select an option to keep the FSUIPC window open all the time, like RC4?

And for that window to display the relevant keys for phase of flight requests / actions?

The fact that it does neither is  why I prefer to keep using RC4. The window popping up makes my system stutter especially on the ground. And I don't find the key select system intuitive and end up having bits of paper on the floor as I have to refer to the print outs from the manuals.

I have been persistently using it to try and get used to the key system as the fact it is a constantly evolving product is fantastic but I am afraid I find it too hard.

Age I guess.

Regards,

Mark

1 hour ago, ThomasAH said:

Though the lowest value you can enter here is 500fpm.

But as vololiberista already wrote: In the options you can configure the altitude deviation at which PF3 starts to nag and the time after which the first nag occurs. But I understand that you want to disable/re-enable it during the flight. This is currently not possible (and I don't think there are plans for it, and I think our Concorde flyer in the beta team did not ask for it), but there might be something that can be used instead:

In PF3 (and PFE before that) you can request different altitudes than the currently assigned, e.g. using "H 2" for 2000 feet or 20 flight levels higher than the current altitude, or "L 4" for 4000ft or 40 flight levels lower. Of course the hotkeys can be changed.

So while you can't disable altitude nagging completely during the flight, you can set the deviation tolerance to e.g. 700 feet (default: 500 feet) and request the next altitude every 20 minutes (e.g. when assigned FL460 and you have climbed to roughly FL465, you can request "H 1" to be cleared for FL470, and so on. With the current beta you can even request "H 0" or "L 0" to stay at the current altitude, which is useful when icing conditions or engine trouble force you to stay at the current altitude, or if you used less fuel than expected (or did not plan fuel/payload well enough), so that the aircraft weight does not allow climbing further.

Hi Thomas,

Thank you for explaining the process with PF3. It sounds like there's quite a bit of interaction to keep PF3 happy once Concorde has started its transonic climb. That would not be ideal as my hands are full managing fuel as I perform part of the Virtual Flight Engineer's duties. Once the transonic climb started at FL260 it was generally cleared all the way up to FL600 and left to its own devices. On the North Atlantic run (EGLL-KJFK) FL600 was rarely achieved but if atmospheric conditions were favourable it did have ATC clearance.

You may or may not know that Concorde was assigned a block altitude where it was free to climb & descend to maintain Mach 2. That was normally FL400 - 600 with the latter being its max altitude.

During a flight the aircraft lost weight as fuel was burnt which made it lighter and could continue to climb albeit very slowly. Maybe 50fpm at times. But it may have to level out or even descend if the nose temperature exceeded 127°C. You can see this is no Boeing or Airbus where PF3 can cope with a fairly standard flight profile.

RC4 allows me to just turn off the vertical watchdog and turn it back on when suitable. If PF3 could do that then I'd consider it but otherwise it seems it's not really suitable for Concorde.

46 minutes ago, mwa05 said:

Would it be possible to release a version of PF3 where you can select an option to keep the FSUIPC window open all the time, like RC4?

And for that window to display the relevant keys for phase of flight requests / actions?

The fact that it does neither is  why I prefer to keep using RC4. The window popping up makes my system stutter especially on the ground. And I don't find the key select system intuitive and end up having bits of paper on the floor as I have to refer to the print outs from the manuals.

I have been persistently using it to try and get used to the key system as the fact it is a constantly evolving product is fantastic but I am afraid I find it too hard.

Age I guess.

Regards,

Mark

you  can bring  up  a panel with all the keys  assigments for the  flight your  at  and  next waypoints  and  atc freq its  all explained  in the  manual,  also  you can press  a key  and  it  will repeat the last  message

43 minutes ago, mwa05 said:

Would it be possible to release a version of PF3 where you can select an option to keep the FSUIPC window open all the time, like RC4?

And for that window to display the relevant keys for phase of flight requests / actions?

The fact that it does neither is  why I prefer to keep using RC4. The window popping up makes my system stutter especially on the ground. And I don't find the key select system intuitive and end up having bits of paper on the floor as I have to refer to the print outs from the manuals.

I have been persistently using it to try and get used to the key system as the fact it is a constantly evolving product is fantastic but I am afraid I find it too hard.

Age I guess.

Regards,

Mark

Mark,

If you have a second PC get a copy of WideFS from Pete Dowson. That will allow you to run RC4 on a separate PC and by using ShowText (free utility available on Pete's site) on that PC the RC menu stays visible all the time. This will also help RC run more smoothly as voices aren't having to compete with FSX/P3D.

http://secure.simmarket.com/pete-dowson-widefs7.phtml

5 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

you  can bring  up  a panel with all the keys  assigments  and  next waypoints  and  atc freq its  all explained  in the  manual,  also  you can press  a key  and  it  will repeat the last  message

Why there's no voice answer to 'Say again' and has never been there? Only in the menu

Thanks, 

 

Edited May 13, 20179 yr by Dirk98

2 hours ago, vololiberista said:

Yes it can. It depends what you put into the aircraft preset. you might have to experiment a bit to get it exact.

Thanks but Thomas appears to cast doubt on whether that's possible given the unique requirements of Concorde. And I'd also lose my Speedbird Concorde call-sign if I switched.

25 minutes ago, Dirk98 said:

Why there's no voice answer to 'Say again' and has never been there? Only in the menu

Thanks, 

 

no worries  anyway looks like  you happy  with rc4 and stay with  what  your used  to

5 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

no worries  anyway looks like  you happy  with rc4 and stay with  what  your used  to

Looks like you have no clue what I'm happy with. So the question why theres's never been voiced answer to 'say again' still stands.

Dirk.

Edited May 13, 20179 yr by Dirk98

7 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

no worries  anyway looks like  you happy  with rc4 and stay with  what  your used  to

And btw you may not like if I start suggesting you what you should do, have no doubt about it.

Dirk.

24 minutes ago, Dirk98 said:

Looks like you have no clue what I'm happy with. So the question why theres's never been voiced answer to 'say again' still stands.

Dirk.

since  you  stated in your  previous  post above,  you  said  your prefer  to use rc4 which I thought  you were happy  using  rc4  than pf3,  don't  know  what you mean by voiced over   answer  to say  again? 

Pfft...funds permitted get both.

3 minutes ago, pete_auau said:

since  you  stated in your  previous  post above,  you  said  your prefer  to use rc4

What was the context? And where did I even say that?

And I didn't say 'voiced over answer', what is the problem with your reading today? 

My question was why in PFE-PF3 there had never been a voiced answer to request 'say again'?

Dirk.