BoeingFan88

"Enable Force Feedback" option not working in P3Dv4

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Hello,

New to P3D and noticed that with the "Enable Force Feedback" option checked I am still not getting any of those effects on my joystick such as feeling the bumps when taxiing. I have a Logitech Force3dPro and the force is still there, just not any of the effects. The joystick is from circa 2005 so it is older software as far as the installer goes, so do not know if that could be an issue (it works fine in p3d in every other way though). Did my forces checks when installing the joystick and everything worked. Any thought? Anyone else having the same issue? (if so maybe its a software issue that needs to be fixed in P3D).

 

Thanks,

Joel

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Fs Force software is outstanding and operates outside of the  Sims force feedback set up but I don't know if it's compatible yet 

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I'm getting a FSForce.dll not found error when I try to run FSForce with P3Dv4. Looks like the dll is going to have to be updated.

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Just now, laserit said:

Made my day ;)

Thanks for the info

  You're welcome.

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This may be a not-very-bright question, but does anyone know of a way to migrate the fs-force aircraft assignments and profiles from P3Dv3 to P3Dv4. I'm not looking forward to having to reassign all my aircraft, and then also having to tweak all the profiles again.

AND, darn is v4 nice. NO MORE VAS issues with PMDG aircraft and heavy sceneries.

Thanks in advance,

Steven Miller

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On 6/2/2017 at 10:33 PM, BoeingFan88 said:

Hello,

New to P3D and noticed that with the "Enable Force Feedback" option checked I am still not getting any of those effects on my joystick such as feeling the bumps when taxiing. I have a Logitech Force3dPro and the force is still there, just not any of the effects. The joystick is from circa 2005 so it is older software as far as the installer goes, so do not know if that could be an issue (it works fine in p3d in every other way though). Did my forces checks when installing the joystick and everything worked. Any thought? Anyone else having the same issue? (if so maybe its a software issue that needs to be fixed in P3D).

 

Thanks,

Joel

Joel,

Have you tried using that stick without installing the Logitech software...as in, I assume the stick is USB...just plug it in and let windows install whatever driver it thinks you need. I am using an MS Force Feedback II stick, and I just plugged it in and it works, including all the ground bumps, gear bumps etc.

Also, in P3D V4, go into "settings; controls; and on the left most column of that window, all the way at the bottom under Key Assignment, Axis Assignment, Calibration, is "Other", see what  is checked below "Enable Force Feedback". You probably have already done this, but thought I'd point it out in case you missed it.

By the way, in case you're using P3Dv3, all of the same settings are available.

 

Steven Miller

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3 hours ago, somiller said:

This may be a not-very-bright question, but does anyone know of a way to migrate the fs-force aircraft assignments and profiles from P3Dv3 to P3Dv4. I'm not looking forward to having to reassign all my aircraft, and then also having to tweak all the profiles again.

AND, darn is v4 nice. NO MORE VAS issues with PMDG aircraft and heavy sceneries.

Thanks in advance,

Steven Miller

Okay, figured out how to get all of the FS-Force aircraft assignments and profile settings from P3Dv3 into P3Dv4.

Find fsforce.cfg at "C:\ProgramData\FS Force" and open file in notepad.

In notepad, copy "[Profile Assignments - P3Dv3]" including all of aircraft assignments listed below it.

After the last aircraft assignment, add a line return, then paste the copied content.

In the newly pasted content, change [Profile Assignments - P3Dv3] to [Profile Assignments - P3Dv4], save the file, and you're done

Start P3Dv4 and select your favorite aircraft, and if it was in your P3Dv3 assignments it will now be correctly assigned in P3Dv4.

 

Steven Miller

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Russell Dirk's software (which I helped on the Beta over 12 years ago) is the answer.  FSForce is inexpensive, and it works beautifully with my Microsoft Force Feedback2 joystick.  I would fly with nothing else.  I've even bought 5 extra Microsoft FF2 joysticks on Ebay, because they are not sold anymore.  I'm ready for the future, and I don't believe the naysayers who think Force Feedback is unnecessary.  I believe it makes a HUGE difference in the sim, and I look forward to hitting those tarstrips on the runway every time I take off.  I especially look forward to the touchdown when my  stick FEELs the wheels hit the runway and to me, that's as real as it gets.

Stan

 

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I managed to dl the software but my sidewinder 2 doesn't have the effects. If I goto fs force re initialize it briefly kicks in. I have force feedback enabled in p3dv4 as well. It's set to raw by default

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I've been using FSForce with my FF yoke, feels like the real thing.  

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49 minutes ago, HUSSAR said:

I've been using FSForce with my FF yoke, feels like the real thing.  

My sidewinder 2 force is working fine in other titles like war thunder.. i just cant get fs force + p3dv4 to work.

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14 hours ago, theskyisthelimit said:

I managed to dl the software but my sidewinder 2 doesn't have the effects. If I goto fs force re initialize it briefly kicks in. I have force feedback enabled in p3dv4 as well. It's set to raw by default

Disable force feedback in P3Dv4. At one time I had the same problem as you, but I think disabling in P3D will fix it. I'll do a test and report if in fact that's not the case.

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Well, disabling forces in P3D doesn't seem to be the fix...maybe it was using fsuipc for axis assignments, instead of assigning with P3D (I have all forces disabled in P3D). Just to cover all the bases, In fsforce profile manager, I would make sure you set trim function to be fsforce and NOT fsx in each of your fsforce profiles, and be sure you do the joystick test which is in the fsforce profile manager "Options" menu at the bottom (you may have to scroll down to find it).

The cool thing about fsforce trim function is that it works same as IRL, in that if you trim nose down, it moves the elevator centering force forward. The hardest part for me was finding a happy medium with "trim click amount" setting in options. I have finally settled on 30, but for some aircraft that is a bit too high, and for others a bit too low. Trim sensitivity is influenced by airspeed, so it's the slow aircraft for which 30 seems too low, and for fast aircraft it seems a bit high - shame it's not a profile option.

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I have seen profiles on the FSForce site and I would venture to guess that you could write your own profile with its own trim function for each of your aircraft.

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