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FS Global Ultimate Next Generation, worth it?

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Hi,
Is it worth it to move from the old Ultimate to the new Next Generation? I only fly airliners and mainly at NA.
What is the advantages of the new NG version compare to the old one?

I have FreeMeshX but I haven't tried it yet.

Thank you,
Hoang Le

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11 minutes ago, qqwertzde said:

I did not notice a big difference.

Peter

The size of the installation I can deal with that, they say the NG loads faster and have better performance. However I'm in doubt about the performance since the mesh shouldn't be a problem with the hardwares we have nowadays?

Thank you for your info,
Hoang Le

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It definitely loads much faster than older high-res meshs. On the other hand, while I didn't make a detailed comparison, I doubt mesh gives a noticeable performance hit these days.

If you fly VFR, you may find "texture snapping" to be more noticeable using (any) high-res mesh while flying low and slow.

Kind regards, Michael

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6 minutes ago, pmb said:

It definitely loads much faster than older high-res meshs. On the other hand, while I didn't make a detailed comparison, I doubt mesh gives a noticeable performance hit these days.

If you fly VFR, you may find "texture snapping" to be more noticeable using (any) high-res mesh while flying low and slow.

Kind regards, Michael

Hi,

The loading time you were talking about is the time when you start P3D or it's the loading time in the sim when flying?
Thank you,
Hoang Le

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I speak about the loading time when the Sim is started.

Kind regards, Michael

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2 hours ago, pmb said:

It definitely loads much faster than older high-res meshs. On the other hand, while I didn't make a detailed comparison, I doubt mesh gives a noticeable performance hit these days.

If you fly VFR, you may find "texture snapping" to be more noticeable using (any) high-res mesh while flying low and slow.

Kind regards, Michael

Hi Michael.  Given the "texture snapping" you've observed, would you recommend something with a lower mesh resolution for VFR flying?

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22 minutes ago, blackbird7 said:

Hi Michael.  Given the "texture snapping" you've observed, would you recommend something with a lower mesh resolution for VFR flying?

Tough question which I don't have a definitive answer for. You can of course throttle back mesh resolution in sim, but than it's a good question why buy an expensive addon mesh.

I (and others) have been trying to overcome that limitation which seems to be caused by several LOD mesh levels available and the next level just snapping in at a certain distance. Prepar3d4 might offer a solution using higher LOD values in Prepar3d4, and some are experimenting with it, so time will tell.

This may be a bit off-topic here, but there are several threads on the topic here at AVSIM and elsewhere. As far as I recall, none of them gave a really satisfactory answer so far.

Kind regards, Michael

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Just curious been thinking of buying this myself . Is it worth £50 investment over the freemesh I have at the moment .

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1 hour ago, cannow said:

Just curious been thinking of buying this myself . Is it worth £50 investment over the freemesh I have at the moment .

Only you can answer that.  Your decision depends on how much utility you will receive from the product.  If you don't care about terrain then the utility will be low.

I find it important to have scenery rendered in a fashion that is at least good enough for me to look at it and see something that resembles the real world I fly over, and a good mesh is required for that. But also, something besides default landclass tiles are needed too, which is why I also invest in FTX Global products including OpenLC and regions.  What I like about the FSGU NG is how well the central plains of the US are rendered, one can see the gentle undulations and drainage from FL380.  No more table top flat, which only exists in a few places.

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1 hour ago, downscc said:

Only you can answer that.  Your decision depends on how much utility you will receive from the product.  If you don't care about terrain then the utility will be low.

I find it important to have scenery rendered in a fashion that is at least good enough for me to look at it and see something that resembles the real world I fly over, and a good mesh is required for that. But also, something besides default landclass tiles are needed too, which is why I also invest in FTX Global products including OpenLC and regions.  What I like about the FSGU NG is how well the central plains of the US are rendered, one can see the gentle undulations and drainage from FL380.  No more table top flat, which only exists in a few places.

Thank you, I'll probably going to get it. Since it's on sale and US is my main place of flying.

Cheers,
Hoang Le

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I'd say hell yes. This was in v3 departing LFMN.  I've used them all, this takes the cake. Used with a Samsung 960 Evo 1TB drive

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Beautiful details! Thank you!
Hoang Le

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8 minutes ago, 777200lrf said:

Comparison pictures to freemeshX?

This video should satisfy you. The only thing is FreemeshX does not have USA in the package which is a big reason that I'm not going for it eventhough it's free.

Hoang Le

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Just an update.

I just purchased it and got the download links. But the speed is incredibly slow. Gonna take me days to download all of them.

Hoang Le

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2 hours ago, Hoang said:

This video should satisfy you. The only thing is FreemeshX does not have USA in the package which is a big reason that I'm not going for it eventhough it's free.

Hoang Le

That did not do a good job comparing and had a very selective comparison to freemesh.

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36 minutes ago, 777200lrf said:

That did not do a good job comparing and had a very selective comparison to freemesh.

Sorry it's the best I could find.
Cheers,

Hoang Le

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4 hours ago, Hoang said:

Just an update.

I just purchased it and got the download links. But the speed is incredibly slow. Gonna take me days to download all of them.

Hoang Le

I just bought it too.  Stop your downloads so I can get it!   Bandwidth hog.  :D

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sorry Denali I'm in competition just brought it and downloading .Lol

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I'm getting mostly for the loading time improvement.   That alone would make it worth it over the years of waiting times with 2010 version.  I'm also expecting to see more detail in the midwestern regions when I fly in, upper midwest and Texas.  

I had all the files downloading well before I went to bed last night with Chrono Download Manager, but they all were "finished" this morning when I checked in on them at around 2GB each.  There was no way to resume these broken "finished" downloads.  Frustrating.  So I'm trying other download managers.  Free Download Manager is doing well on one file, but it wasn't doing well yesterday before I switched to CDM.  Ninja Download Manager has some nice features, and I think I am preferring it now.  As it is I'm using CDM, FDM and NDM with about 5 files each to download.

And now I noticed CDM just "finished" 3 files at 3.5GB.  Do NOT Use Chrono Download Manager.

 

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I had a similar problem last night.  All of my files abruptly stopped downloading, and when I checked this morning, most of the files were only 1 to 2 GB in size.  I was using Chrome's default downloader, which I know isn't recommended but hasn't never given me much trouble before.  So, I too am currently having another go at downloading them, lol.

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Hello,
I'm using IDM for downloading. I don't have the problem that the other manager have. The files were fully 3.99GB each, however I notice it was not able to download 4 out of 19 files last night, probably got error from the server.

The speed yesterday was bad but today is very good. Expecting to finish it this morning.

Cheers,
Hoang Le

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Agree with Hoang Le, you need to have a download manager if you are downloading large files and I consider 80GB very large.  IDM is a good product, I've had it several years and it gets frequent updates.  Works seamlessly in Firefox and probably Chrome, in fact I prefer it to the default download UI.

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I"m getting slow and stopped downloads with Ninja Download Manager now. The stopped ones won't start again, did a pause, and resume, no luck.  Free Download Manager is pulling away at 11 downloads now with no problems.  It has finished 4 4GB files already.  I'll probably move the two files that stopped on NDM to restart on FDM even though they're half way done as I will probably have to restart them.

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