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Best small jet for v4?

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Looking for a small jet for v4. Would like a newer product with glass and, if possible, auto throttle. I was thinking of getting the Corenado Phenom 300 but it is yet not v4 ready. 

Spoiled by the Eclipse 550 in Xplane 11 and hope to find some thing equal to it for P3Dv4.

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Eaglesoft Development Group are making Cessna Citation XLS  they have facebook page 

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I'm in the market for one too.  Anyone recommend the Carenado CJ2? I believe that's v4 ready...

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I've been looking too, there doesn't seem to be much.  From what I gather from these forums, Carenado has a reputation for being eye candy only (don't beat me up if you disagree), so that has given me pause.  Haven't got too excited about the CRJ.  I'm optimistic about that Eaglesoft Citation.  I'd really like a G550/650 but I'm not holding my breath

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Hi Folks,

My biggest beef with Carenado's business jets - unless you install a community mod for the GTN - you can't do the most basic of navigation exercises - a "Direct To" - an FMC that can't do a "Direct To" is just absurd... Now if you simply fly A to B without realistic ATC - this shouldn't be any big deal to you... I'm a fan of the straight wing Cessna's and I truly like the way their CJ2 525A flies and looks - if only they could give us a basic functioning FMC... Just my humble opinion...

Regards,

Scott

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@warbirds

The 3 monthly thread about small corporate jets is back - but for the first time it includes P3DV4

 

Do you own F1 GTN750 or ISG Gauges?

 

 

 

 

@blaird22

Not sure if it works in P3DV4 however , there's a very good G450 plane which i think is available it also MIGHT come with synthetic vision which i understand maybe less than 2-3 months away ( the first synthetic vision ever on any flight sim) 

 

I believe the G plane 550 will be much much better but is work in development and a long way a way.

 

Regarding the G's i'm not providing a link at the moment, maybe after the weekend and i think you know what i mean when i say the 'G-Plane' :)

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The Premier looks great but this is no GTN 750 for it that I know of.

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Personally, I'm waiting for the Flight 1 Citation Mustang to become P3D4 compatible.

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I am starting to like the Corenado Hawker if I can mod in the GTN for P3Dv4.

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7 minutes ago, Greggy_D said:

Personally, I'm waiting for the Flight 1 Citation Mustang to become P3D4 compatible.

Absolutely this. It beats the Carenado stuff with its eyes closed. Don't waste your money on anything else in the meantime. The Eaglesoft jets will almost certainly be worth it once out as well.

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Carenado Hawker, CJ2 and the Phenom 300 are all pretty good aircraft with the mods added, if those mods become available for v4 either of them would be a good purchase, but without the mods I would stay away from them unless you like being frustrated...

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None of these choices have auto throttle - in fact you'd be hard pressed to find a bizjet in real life with one.  More commonly you'll find FADEC.

anyway I'd recommend FSW Lear 35, XPjets Lear 25.  Both can take the GTN 750 but neither has A/T.

also I believe it's possible to assign a key to A/T in P3D and change the aircraft cfg to add a fake A/T.  I haven't done this in ages so you may have to play around.

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I do totally agree with the xp learjet 25 se 2.1. Old style cockpit very well reproduced and the fde is amazing. You can add gtn750 and any WX radar into it. (I,m talking about the 2.0, the 2.1 will be compatible with p3d v4.

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1 hour ago, ryanbatcund said:

None of these choices have auto throttle - in fact you'd be hard pressed to find a bizjet in real life with one.  More commonly you'll find FADEC.

anyway I'd recommend FSW Lear 35, XPjets Lear 25.  Both can take the GTN 750 but neither has A/T.

also I believe it's possible to assign a key to A/T in P3D and change the aircraft cfg to add a fake A/T.  I haven't done this in ages so you may have to play around.

Well Ryan, I am reading page 32, section 4, for the XP25 2.1 Flight Manual, and it says about the autopilot mode selector:

airspeed hold mode switch....in the sim, speed hold is accomplished by the autothrottle.

 

So maybe there's hope, yet. Will have to wait until release.

 

Dave Swigert

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5 hours ago, ukplane1 said:

Not sure if it works in P3DV4 however , there's a very good G450 plane which i think is available it also MIGHT come with synthetic vision which i understand maybe less than 2-3 months away ( the first synthetic vision ever on any flight sim) 

 

I believe the G plane 550 will be much much better but is work in development and a long way a way.

 

Regarding the G's i'm not providing a link at the moment, maybe after the weekend and i think you know what i mean when i say the 'G-Plane' :)

Does it start with "Gulf" and end with "stream"? :biggrin: That is intriguing I wonder who the developer is.

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Triton Simulation Fleet, no secret it's been discussed here on AVSIM many times.

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@Eclex

I'm not seeing that in the manual - are you sure it's not a pitch mode like ias climb etc?

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Ryan, section 5, page 23. Note sure why they are calling it a AutoThrottle, sounds like a FLC to me, this explanation is like you mentioned a IAS or FLC?

MACH (Mach Hold Mode) Switch and Light

[2, fig. 4-22b]

This switch, when depressed, will engage the autopilot MACH hold mode. The MACH hold mode maintains the aircraft at the Mach num-ber that existed when the switch was de-pressed. The MACH Hold Switch must be used at altitudes above 29,000 feet. Like on the real aircraft, below 29,000 feet, the auto-pilot will automatically switch to the SPD hold mode. In the sim, Mach hold is accomplished by the autothrottle.

Note: Autothrottle is not available in the real aircraft. The autopilot maintains speed by varying the pitch of the aircraft.

Cheers

Martin

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16 minutes ago, MartinRex007 said:

Ryan, section 5, page 23. Note sure why they are calling it a AutoThrottle, sounds like a FLC to me, this explanation is like you mentioned a IAS or FLC?

MACH (Mach Hold Mode) Switch and Light

[2, fig. 4-22b]

This switch, when depressed, will engage the autopilot MACH hold mode. The MACH hold mode maintains the aircraft at the Mach num-ber that existed when the switch was de-pressed. The MACH Hold Switch must be used at altitudes above 29,000 feet. Like on the real aircraft, below 29,000 feet, the auto-pilot will automatically switch to the SPD hold mode. In the sim, Mach hold is accomplished by the autothrottle.

Note: Autothrottle is not available in the real aircraft. The autopilot maintains speed by varying the pitch of the aircraft.

Cheers

Martin

As Martin has said, in the real aircraft, that is a speed/pitch mode but, as is common with some developers, they have instead implemented it as an autothrottle mode (pet hate of mine!).    Anyone remember Carenado's first release of their SR22 - that had autothrottle linked to the "Speed" mode button on the GFC700 ! :biggrin:

- An autothrottle on a TIO 550 piston engine; who knew!

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Ahhhh yep that's what it is

I have the Sr22 and yeah I remember  that lol

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I use the WeFly Works Autopilot GPS

https://www.fspilotshop.com/wefly-works-team-autopilot-gps-p-5536.html

in a lot of my aircraft, as it adds the autothrottle to those that don't otherwise have it. You just have to add it to the panel.cfg, then go into the aircraft.cfg and make sure it has the autothrottle activated:

[autopilot]
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=1
default_vertical_speed=1800
autothrottle_available=1
autothrottle_arming_required=0

 

It shows that it works with FSX and P3D v1-3, but I use it in v4 with no issues.

 

Russ
 

 

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The Flysimware Lear 35A is my favorite business class. There is no auto throttle so you have to actually fly the plane during takeoff, climb, cruise, descent, approach and landing. :) The GTN 750 is factory installed (if you own it).  On those days were you just want to fly it's perfect for a quick startup and 400 knots at FL45 in no time. :)

Bob

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Thanks, I did the cockpit textures for that so I already have it. Just looking for something else at this time. 

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